Sony Ericsson has announced a number of feature phones plus a Symbian-based UIQ 3-running successor to their M600i and P990i. The 'P1' (apparently) has the best of both devices (though no P series 'flip' this time), with an upgraded camera (3.2mp), VoIP support, A2DP and 3G data, for European networks. More details and photos from Rafe, who's attending the launch event this evening. Watch this space.
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Smaller and with more memory then the P990 - makes sense. The keyboard is innovative and compact - again makes sense. An upgrade to Symbian 9.3 and UIQ3.1 would make even more sense 😉
Jah, Symbian 9.3 would/will mean UIQ 3.2 (not out yet), not UIQ 3.1 (Symbian 9.2)
Official photos for the P1
Any word on the processor ? Hardware accelerated ?
"Hygiene Features" !?!?!!?!?
P1 should have 4x more ram which is 80mb free by my calculations, if this site is anything to go by, meant to be a sony ericcson exec i think but don't think the processor has changed. w.symbianone.com/content/view/4490
Hi Steve,
You asked about RAM: the P1 has double RAM size (128MB) compared to P990 (64MB), but the important thing is the increased user RAM available for apps, which has been increased by approx 400% (>60MB on P1 compared to 15MB on P990), significantly improving multi-tasking performance and application behavior.
Some specs for P1 that may be of interest to developers:
- Based on Symbian OS v 9.1 and UIQ 3.0
- Supports both Java CDC and Java CLDC, see specifics further down.
- Developers can use the WLAN API to create applications using the WiFi feature
- Hardware accelerated 3D gaming supported by OpenGL ES API as well as Mobile 3D Graphics API for Java ME (JSR-184); Sony Ericsson to date has introduced over 50 3D-enabled phone models in its portfolio.
"More Applications" desktop icon improving visibility of 3rd party apps & content to end-users:
- Free Applications
- Try & Buy Applications
- Fun & Downloads
- Sony Ericsson Application Shop
There will be several third party applications preloaded on the phone and a large number offered as Try & Buy applications on the Memory Stick Micro (M2).
Sony Ericsson Application Shop currently has >350 UIQ 3 apps available for the P990 smartphone, M600 messaging device and W950 Walkman phone - most of them will work on P1 as well, reducing time-to-market for developers.
Detailed specs for the Java API's supported:
CLDC 1.1 environment:
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JTWI 1.0 (JSR-185) consisting of CLDC (Connected Limited Device Configuration) 1.1 HI (JSR-139), MIDP 2.0 (JSR-118), WMA 1.1 (JSR-120)
PDA PIM and File Access (JSR-75)
Bluetooth� API (JSR-82)
Wireless Messaging API 2.0 (JSR-205)
Web Services (JSR-172)
Mobile Media API (JSR-135)
Mobile 3D Graphics (JSR-184) with hardware acceleration
Scalable 2D Vector Graphics API for Java ME (JSR-226)
Nokia UI API 1.1
CDC 1.0 (JSR-36) environment:
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Foundation Profile 1.0 (JSR-46)
Personal Profile 1.0 (JSR-62)
PDA File Access (JSR-75)
Hope this helps!
- Mimmis, Sony Ericsson Developer World
Thanks, Mimmis, very good to hear that RAM won't be an issue at long last. The P990i was such a mess in this regard.
And I heartily approve of the M600-ish design, the dual keyboard works surprisingly well. And there's now no bulky and clumsy phone flip to get in the way - it made the P990 soooo thick.
Steve
I've seen it runnning and it's fast. Almost too fast 😊
Nice in every way except....no 5 way navigation! Something like 90% of new phones have a 5 way navigator, usually a dpad, and from the m600 one of the obvious complaints was the awkward stretch from jogdial to *# due to the removal of the 5 way jogdial (to change tabs).
Given UIQ3, a joypad would be more useful, to go just above the keyboard in the same arrangement as the p990 (ie. with softkeys and home/back buttons).
On another issue, is the video QVGA 30fps for recording?
11b WiFi?
You have GOT to be kidding! Surely this is some kind of a miss-print?
Krisse - I think hygiene features refers to terminology from motivation theory - Herzberg, I think it was, discerned between Hygiene factors and Motivation factors. Hygiene factors are those that, if you don't have them, decrease satisfaction. Motivation factors when added, increase satisfaction.
To cut the "bla" short -
Hygiene features are, I guess, the "must haves" - you'd be complaining if they weren't there. The stuff that really makes you happy are the other features. 😉
Cheers
Jenny
"I think hygiene features refers to terminology from motivation theory - Herzberg, I think it was, discerned between Hygiene factors and Motivation factors. Hygiene factors are those that, if you don't have them, decrease satisfaction. Motivation factors when added, increase satisfaction."
Thank you for the explanation.
It seems a bit pretentious to use terms like that on a public press release. Something like "standard features" or "expected features" would be far more informative.
Most english-speakers probably wouldn't be familiar with the term "hygiene features", and I doubt most non-english speakers would find that definition under "hygiene" in their english dictionaries. Google has very few people actually using that phrase, only about 1600 references most of which are to do with actual hygiene in food production.
> Comment: 11b WiFi?
> You have GOT to be kidding! Surely this is some kind of a miss-print?
No. See http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05/08/column_wifi/page2.html
Quote: "Right now, every Wi-Fi phone in existence uses 11b, not the faster 11g. And there's a simple reason for that: battery power. The 11g technology gets its extra speed from a modulation system called orthogonal frequency division modulation, OFDM - a technology that applies to WiMAX too. It works, but there's no free lunch. To get more bandwidth, you have to use more power."
I don't care HOW current phones support 11g WiFi. THe fact is that they do and that you don't need to run your WiFi router in mixed b/g mode in order to connect to them. 11b only is crazy, just as the world is going 11n.
Guy's wrong, the E61 (and most Nokias with WiFi) can use 802.11g as well as 802.11b.
But his point is valid, WiFi is a battery killer.
JimH, I think jrmt is suggesting that the phones that support 11g don't have 11g hardware. They only have 11b hardware and so are only capable of (more battery friendly) speeds. They can connect to 11g equipment by simulating an 11g signal but can't attain 50+Mbps.
However, the fact is, 11g hardware or not, every WiFi phone released in the last 12 months by every manufacturer can connect to 11g equipment which saves the business/end user from having to operate their WiFi router in mixed mode which reduces range and bandwidth.
Anyway, nice mid-range device apart from this one utterly bizare design decision.
The only way to see if the phone works in 11g is to make a download/upload test and see how much is approaching 54Mbits/s (or 6.75MBytes/s)
Yeah yeah, VoIP enabled "my a*s"! Didn't they promise *that* for the P990i too back in the days of the P990i's press release?
They can enable it on the p990 too now...all this is the result of SE buying optomobile voip solution afaik
"It seems a bit pretentious to use terms like that on a public press release. Something like "standard features" or "expected features" would be far more informative.
Most english-speakers probably wouldn't be familiar with the term "hygiene features", and I doubt most non-english speakers would find that definition under "hygiene" in their english dictionaries."
Yes, I agree. It was purely coincidental that I as a non-native speaker came across the term at university, so it rang a bell when reading the press release.
I guess that takes the whole marketing wording thing to another level. Before, it was hard for non-geeks to understand what their phone is able to do, now even techies need to take classes in motivation theory to understand a simple press release. Talk about corporate "communication".
Who the hell wants a double functional keyboard on a smartphone ?
I saw this similar ShXX on the Blackberry my brother-in-law uses.
OK, camera will be surely better than on my E61i, but is is necassary to have a camera with lots on pixels, but limited capabilities for sincere usage.
I think, that in consideration that most of the people buying this phone will be business people, the terminology isn't so wrong. I mean, hygiene factors are HRM 1-0-1. I really don't think this phone is being built for techies!
As a owner and user of SE P900, SE M600i, Nokia 9500, Nokia 9300i, Nokia E61, Nokia E70 and Nokia E61i I've found the M600i keyboard to be very, very good. It is not designed or does operate in a manner as the BlackBerry Pearl's keyboard.
The SE M600i keyboard is extremely well designed, easy to use and is excellent for daily usage. If the SE P1i comes with real VoIP functionality it will be a very compelling product.
Thanks - FLG
The worst part of all the features is the absence of the 5-way jog dial, like the one on the SE P910. They took it off on the P990, but they should put it back on the P1i. It works much better than the "back" button!!
.... or has seen / reviewed one.
(1) Was just wondering if a user can get to the corners of the touchscreen with a finger? For example, can one get to the task manager icon with a finger? It used to be easy on the P910i since the screen was not so recessed, and got more difficult on the P990i.
(2) Also, does the rear camera lens have a cover? For this, the P990i was better with its rotating lens cover as compared to the P910i.
(3) In general, are there many cracks/crevices on the device for it to collect dust into? Honestly, that is the only one feature of the iPhone that I like....
Thanks for any info!
Has anyone any experience with MS Outlook. With a previous much earlier T610 I had lots of troubles downloading Phone numbers, calender and contacts
hi, can somebody tell me if this p1i hangs? i hav d p990i but the problem is that it keeps on hanging...
Being a true noob when it comes to developing Java applications for mobile devices, could someone give a quick briefing on the following subjects when it comes to P1 specifically:
- Development JDK, which version can be used in order to get correct compiler support regardless of development environment / IDE?
- Distributing applications
How do I get the app to be recognized by the device? I assume JAR-files would be ok, but is any specific content required for the mobile device to understand what's part of the file? Can I use the same procedure when wanting to "install" an upgraded application? Are there more ways of getting the JAR to the device than putting it on a webserver? If not, what should be part of the server folder containing the application in order for the device to recognize it properly?
- Any excellent websites that specialize in mobile Java development?
Community forums would be more than welcome...
Lots of questions that hopefuly can be answered with a few links 😊
Thx
/Jonas
KBG wrote:Has anyone any experience with MS Outlook. With a previous much earlier T610 I had lots of troubles downloading Phone numbers, calender and contacts
Haven't laid my hands on my P1 yet, but I'd be really surprised if it didn't work flawlessly since I had no problems with using a wide range of phones since T610. With a little help from Plaxo.com I even manage to sync over multiple phones, platforms and computers 😊
I did however upgrade from the freeware sync software that was part of the T610 distribution to the same commercial software in order to be able to support multiple phones on the same computer. Freeware version worked fine when using only one phone though...
Only thing I haven't managed yet was to get sync over BT to work :P
Not that it's a great comfort for you since you had problems with it, but it should work anyway...