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Why does the quality vary so drastically!?

17 replies · 4,650 views · Started 28 June 2007

Went to Whipsnade Zoo today and gave my N95 camera a workout. Dissapointed to be totally honest. Considering its a 5mp camera, the resulting shots you get just seem to be hit and miss. For example:

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The quality is drastically different. Admittedly one is zoomed and the other is not, but still pretty poor quality regardless.

Took loads of pictures and a bit gutted really, as only a handful are of the quality of the first image above. The rest are poor.

Seems to me the N95's only good at close up. Anything that requires you to zoom in, the quality deteriorates.

I went to see The Who last night at Wembley and had the same results. As soon as you zoom in the quality goes out the window!!!!

Ian

Hello!

Personally I think the first picture is great quality. Of course you wouldnt have it at that size. I put that into photoshop, Used Auto Levels, and cropped it too the size of 1024x768 and it looks excellent! - Now you may take this with a pinch of salt, as I have never owned a camera before apart from on my mobile phone.
Digital zoom on all camera phones you stay away from like the plague. They are all horrible - god knows why they include it!

Here this is what I made out of your picture please be aware its just over 4mb so may take a few minutes to download, and you will need photoshop or something to view it! It took me 10 seconds to press auto levels and crop it.

http://www.vwrmic.com/images/edited.psd

Tbh it just sounds like you don't realise what Digital Zoom is guys but ukmic does.

Digital Zoom is basically the same as zooming in on picture on your PC. All it does is makes it more pixelated. Think of it this way - you start out with a 5mp camera, as soon as you zoom it becomes 4, 3, 2, 1 etc.

The camera on the N95 is perfectly good, if you use it correctly. Unlike Sony erricson cybershot phones, the n95 camera cant be opened and used to take a perfect picture straight away. You gotta fiddle with the settings. Get them right to suit the enviroment. The N95 camera is more proffessional than most camera phones, not unlike a proper slr camera. (minus the lenses). If you want a phone that'l take quick and easy pics get a SE. To be honnest, you only really need high quality 5mpx photo's if ur planning on using them on programs like photoshop where pixel density is important.

I know exactly what digital zoom is mate, its akin to using a paint app to zoom in, I'm just greatly disappointed by the phone that advertises 5mp, unseen before on a phone, basically saying you can ditch your pocket camera when at the first zoom level, the picture quality drops to that below a camera phone from 2-3 years ago.

Thanks for the PSD file, though I wasn't complaining about the quality of the lemur photo, its the elephant one I was disappointed with.

Do you bother with the half-press-to-focus thing? Doesnt look like the elephant is in focus?

But yea I agree - the camera can sometimes be a little hit and miss. I had so far attributed it to my poor photography skills and just grabbing quick snaps.

The camera on N95 is one of its biggest assets. Of course you can't use the digital zoom for serious quality. It's more for...well I don't know, it probably can be used for something...

Autofocus makes a big difference. That combined with the right light settings makes all the difference. Its genuine autofocus too. The lens actually moves (you can see it move) opposed to digital autofocus that uses a computer to figure it out. And, if you really want a decent camera phone, get a N93 9about the only phone better than the N95), or better still, for that money, buy a proper camera! Lol

The thing is that mobile cameras use small cmos sensors.
And bigger cmos=better quality...

Logan1981 wrote:
The quality is drastically different. Admittedly one is zoomed and the other is not, but still pretty poor quality regardless.

Considering the N95 does not have optical zoom lens, then any pics taken zoomed in will be much lower resolution.

dez_borders wrote:Considering the N95 does not have optical zoom lens, then any pics taken zoomed in will be much lower resolution.

I'm getting that phallic looking optical zoom thing from HK .. will let you guys know how it turns out.😊

Yeah put a 5MP CCD in .. and no optical zoom - guess they figured the digital would work ok given the high pixel count to begin with. Short answer - so far with the latest publicly available firmware "it doesn't":frown:
To be honest the optical zoom on my Sharp 903 is MUCH better than the digital on the 95 .. but the 95 is a much better camera for night shots and video work.

cheers!

Personally I ONLY zoom if I plan to just keep the photo on the phone (maybe a wallpaper or send to a friend by MMS). If I want a decent photo, I leave it fully zoomed out and worry about cropping it later (on the computer), since that is all digital zoom does anyway. Also, I always use the auto-focus (holding the button half down) cos it gives you a much sharper photo of your subject

Yeah the images I took are all fine on the phone, its when you take them off the phone and onto a PC you notice the quality.

All it means from now on is, that I'll only use the camera on the N95 in close up situations. I'll use my Sony 8mp pocket camera with a proper zoom for everything else.

the zoom is a digital zoom like those found in most phone cameras these days, not an optical zoom like the one found in the n93... if you want a good zoom you spent a tonne of money on the wrong phone ;x

I'm just greatly disappointed by the phone that advertises 5mp, unseen before on a phone

What about the 5mp LG phone released about the same time as the n73? (okay it was a hideous phone, and it was LG but it still had 5mp 😉)

Logan1981 wrote:Yeah the images I took are all fine on the phone, its when you take them off the phone and onto a PC you notice the quality.

All it means from now on is, that I'll only use the camera on the N95 in close up situations. I'll use my Sony 8mp pocket camera with a proper zoom for everything else.

Huh? *Slaps forehead*. You certainly can't expect the N95 to compete with that. It's by far the best phone camera I've ever seen and is better than some compact digital cameras... but it won't beat a decent one!

Looks to me like someone just didn't wait for the autofocus.
Either that or they need to change the focus locus.