slitchfield wrote:I should just mention that I've already found my first show stopping bug in the N95 8GB - I really, really hope they haven't released this build to manufacturing, otherwise some programmer's going to be really, really embarrassed. 8-)
What is it then?
'Refresh Music Library' is utterly absent (bug?), meaning that (AFAICS) there's no way to add music to this thing. Maybe I'm missing something - hopefully the Nokia N95 team will contact me tomorrow about this.....
BTW, firmware date is 29/9/07, since someone asked....
yeah they gotta sort that :O( I love the look of this phone plus seems to have everything
Awwe...now I never thought I would be so willing to give my mom my Nokia N95, but it is time. She will use everything but the internet really. The internet is my biggest issue with the previous Nokia N95. I get memory error issues constantly. Steve...you know you want to trade ole chap!
Hi Steve Litchfield, any chance of this n95 8g demand paging feature coming to the original n95?
This is why it rocks to be a phone-reviewer eh=P?......so much of ram..indeed...nokia has seen the weak point of the old one and improved it..i think n95 8gb is to stay as the flagship model for at least another year?...hahaha.....anyway..it still kicks ass to be reviewing a phone...wish i was one.=)
Unregistered wrote:Hi Steve Litchfield, any chance of this n95 8g demand paging feature coming to the original n95?
Wrong question.
Any chance that Demand Paging feature will be on the N95 8GB?
Please refer post 34, the N95 8Gb *DOES* have Demand Paging.
Steve,
Now that the screen is flush do you think that the phone will be more susceptable to scratches??
[QUOTE=slitchfield;343281]'Refresh Music Library' is utterly absent (bug?), meaning that (AFAICS) there's no way to add music to this thing. QUOTE]
Hi
I don't know if i understood well but on a site showing a little demo of the phone. They refresh the music library to "see" recently downloaded podcast. Go on Music->Music Player then go on option of music or podcast and do "Refresh"... Is this option on the phone or not?
....waiting for N95 8gb, 26 days left...
Can you please post a video N95 8Gb playing some track... is it louder than original N95? how do you like it's music player, through headphones? compared to iPod, for example. thanx a lot from Russia=)
//shop.vodafone.co.uk/index.cfm?go=paymonthly.productdetails&pid=551&wt_oss=n95
stick http: at the start...
pricey!
Yes, phew, I've found the 'Refresh' option now, it's been moved one level back in the UI - HOW APPALLINGLY UNINTUITIVE - for existing S60 owners, at least, which will be 99% of purchasers. Why could they not have left the refresh option on the usual UI level as WELL?
Sigh. The N95 8GB is superb in many, many ways, but *some* aspects of the interface still come across as horrible kludges.
More in my upcoming review. Got to give it a few days of real world use before I pronounce though - I don't want to be a fan boy 8-)
Steve
Steve - I'm loving this thread. It's great to finally see a proper, professional and impartial review of this device.
I'm wondering where I can buy this device sim free online?
I got my existing N91 from OneDayMobile - but they seem to be offline now.
Does anyone know which reputable sites will be among the first to likely stock this item?
Deek.
Dublin.
JESUS !
ITS SO GOOD!!!!! 😊)))))) Unbeliveable pritty and smart maschine !!!!
Pls do with it some pictures !
Funny how Vodafones got them, but not available sim free anywhere. Try Expansys or Mobilefun, I've bought sim free from both those sites before and had good service.
ehm... hello? NO, USB 1.0 is by far not good enough! it may have been 10 years ago... it's utterly stupid to build a new device with built-in 8GB flash and have to wait abou 2.5hours to fill it with data!
ask yourself this: would ANY PERSON IN THE WORLD buy a 4 or 8GB USB-Stick that only has a crappy 1MB/s performance? current performance of *cheap* USB-Sticks are around 10-20MB/s since years!
i'll let you answer this yourself... (sorry for the rampling, but this really pisses me off - probaby even more so, as i actually (would) love the N95 otherwise! 😉
My only gripe: there is no US version yet.. 😞 😊. I guess I have to just be happy with my US N95 (which I don't have quite yet) Which is a fantastic multimedia computer (that mouthful is catching on..) too! 😃
OK, the official tech specs
http://www.forum.nokia.com/devices/N95_8GB
say USB 2.0 - I'm guessing that my old desktop (2004) has something to do with this. I'm not a PC expert, maybe the ports aren't 2.0 compatible. Anyway, please don't fixate on this until I've had a chance to try the N95 8GB with something more modern.
Steve
All of this nice things u said about the ram and web processing capability are also tru for the E90, right ? Then i can't see why the excitement, we allready have "these" capability in a series 60 device ! Perhaps this excitement is because the N95 should have been capable of these feats in the 1st place, but it wasn't...
slitchfield wrote:OK, the official tech specssay USB 2.0 - I'm guessing that my old desktop (2004) has something to do with this. I'm not a PC expert, maybe the ports aren't 2.0 compatible. Anyway, please don't fixate on this until I've had a chance to try the N95 8GB with something more modern.
Steve
As with the N95, the 8GB it is capable of communication at full USB 2.0 speed. When you use the phone as a USB modem it creates a network connection at 470Mb/s
The problem is that the device has to receive and process the data on the USB and the writing to the flash memory may not be direct but could well be controlled and addressed by the processor
I wonder if this 'demand paging' is the reason for the enhanced speed rather than the fact it has more RAM. If so, it is possible to give demand paging to orig N95 owners, to help them speed things up. I would love this... ( a guy can dream)
Unregistered wrote:As with the N95, the 8GB it is capable of communication at full USB 2.0 speed. When you use the phone as a USB modem it creates a network connection at 470Mb/s
The problem is that the device has to receive and process the data on the USB and the writing to the flash memory may not be direct but could well be controlled and addressed by the processor
of course the USB interface is USB 2.0 *compatible* - thats not the point. the point is, as you state it correctly, that the subsystem is obviously nowhere nearly capable of deliverying the speed that the flash would be capable of (for example at least 4-6MB/s for a cheap 4GB MicroSD Card in a card reader). so, the endresult for me as a user is: if i buy the 8GB N95, i loose 4-6x the speed compared to being able to put my MicroSD card in a separate card reader for tranferring large files (movies, audio collections, etc), OR when using the device as a portable flash-disk (as with a USB stick). why nokia dont' just admit the real-life transfer-rate, rather than blinding users with a ridiculous statement like "it connects with 480MB/s"...
Do we have any update on the expected launch date?
Can't be far off if you have a boxed production model?
I have read many post about N95 being full speed USB 2.0 which means USB 1.1 speeds. That is the reason why its locked at 1mb per second.
I'll be concerned if a benchmark says the 8gb transfer rate, internally to the N95 is 1mb/s......
So put a transfer benchmark on.
Let go of the USB transfer rates guys! Honestly, how frequently will you be transferring huge amount of data to the phone? Maybe only when you buy the phone and are loading it up with your data. After that it will just be short bursts of data like 9 songs / 2- videos / a dozen pictures/ map of a city, etc. These should not take more than 15-20 secs or more in the mass storage mode.
Lets look at the possible improvements that have been brought in the phone. Does the camera take better pictures? How fast is it? How efficient is the combination of more RAM and Demand Paging? Is the music better - through wired or bluetooth on A2DP?
Steve, help...
Can we install applications in the flash drive? or is it limited to the internal memory?
I have no idea whether this covers sim-free handsets as well as contract, but the Nokia press office have stated that in the UK the N95-8GB will be exclusive to Vodafone until after xmas.
can n95 stand vertically or horizontally on the desk (without holding) ? if it doesn't then what's the purpose of camera self timer option for? and who the heck will buy tripod for camera phone.
slitchfield wrote:Yes, the N95 8Gb *DOES* have Demand Paging, it boots in 20 seconds and ROM-based apps start much quicker and take less RAM when loaded.It's a limited implementation of Demand Paging though, and I don't think 3rd party apps will benefit. I'll investigate more for my full review.
I thought about what you had meant but the answer could be right at the bottom this page
www . symbian . com / symbianos / demandpaging /
Symbian 9.3 has demand paging for the OS while 9.5 adds it for applications. But the N95-1 started out with 9.2 though ...