At last - the home key - a much better idea! When I was first introduced to the E61, I knew that it was a multitasking device, but I couldn't for the life of me figure out an easy way of exiting programs without shutting them down - at first I had to exit the program to return to standby, then I discovered holding down the menu key and selecting desktop, and then eventually I learnt to the two presses to get back - not intuitive!
Duncan.
I got an E60 since August 2006. I'm thinking of buying the E51, but can't seem to find what are the main advantages...I can only see this phone as an evolution of the E60, but I probably end up getting one anyway & will keep my E60 as a back-up phone...: )
ajck wrote:In response to the question of an equivalent NSeries device up above, you need look no further than the Nokia 6120 - it is an NSeries in all but name, and I agree with krisse just above, it is the best phone I have ever used, and I've handled a few NSeries devices. It's really lovely, and suprisingly powerful and capable for such a small, light package. If you really need Wifi go for the E51, if you don't go for the 6120.
So I usually prefer to use a multimedia centric symbian phone which I can load with applications for also getting some office work done - thanks to symbian been an open platform 😊
slitchfield wrote:At first glance it looks like a slimmed down E90. But then you realise it's utterly miniscule. Here's my review of the Nokia E51, which packs much of the E90's style and functionality into the slimmest and smallest S60 smartphone ever made. Any downsides? Only a few hard-to-press side keys stand in the way of the E51 being the perfect smartphone for an awfully large chunk of the phone and smartphone market.
Thanks for the review. Have you had a chance to handle the black version? I was wondering if there's any risks that the paint on the black edges would fade or peel. Would you know if the material on the black edge is metal or plastic?
Also, it's interesting to me that the black model doesn't seem to be that popular--at least from my impression. Different strokes, I guess.
I had a chance to play with one for day and I really loved it. It's basically an E61i squeezed into a very slim candy bar chasis.
The new shortcuts for some menus are well thought out indeed. This one's definitely a keeper...
I've been using an E50 for quite a while now. The ability to pick up personal gmail and work exchange mail has been a godsend. Great design and form factor and battery life has been good. The best phone I've ever owned.
I don't much like the design of the E51. As someone said earlier in this thread it doesn't look much like a Nokia. This one looks a bit too boy racer for my tastes, but I'm interested in what the WiFi might offer me.
The biggest question I have for anyone who's had some hands on with this handset is whether the responsiveness has improved. On the E50 it takes as long as three seconds to create an SMS or E-Mail. Colleagues with the same phone have the same problem.
Has the processor improved? Has the software been optimised?
Thanks in advance.
DavidA,
I've had handson experience with both and the is no comparison in terms of speed. The E51 is much more responsive than the E50. Looking at the specs will already tell you the story.
The E50 has a 220MHZ processor and 70MB of RAM.
The E51 has a 369MHZ processor and 130MB of RAM.
Wifi on a mobile has become an indispensible tool. I mean who doesn;t need free and fast internet? If you're like me, often downloading and uploading things directly to and from my mobile phone, you'll appreciate wifi.
The software of the E51 has definitely been optimised further. There are many convenient keys now and a single key can perform different functions depending on how long you keep them pressed down. For example, a quick press on the contacts key brings you to the contacts menu. Press and hold onto the contacts key brings you to the "add new contact" screen, ready for you to create a new contact.
I don't think the E51 looks boy racer at all. In real life, it's very classy. Maybe the black and bronze ones do a little bit, but the silver one is nice.
The only thing about it that may be bothersome is the screen size. But at the same 240x320 resolution, you're not actually seeing anything less. In fact, the E51's 24-bit (16.7 million colours) screen looks better to me than the E50's 18-bit (262k colours) screen.
Overall, it's a different generation of phone both hardware and software wise.
Thanks. That's exactly the comprehensive and positive answer I was hoping for 😊
Hi,
I just got the E51 and I have a question:
How can I set-up this phone to dial out and connect via GSM to the internet and/or receive mail. I cannot find the setting as I had a E65 and that was easy to find...did Nokia forgot something on purpose???? Any help/advise is appreciated
Is the Bluetooth interface in E51 reliable? According to discussion groups on the internet on 6120 Classic it was not as reliable as it should be, and E51 looks like is built around the same platform.
Any experience in that area, both for hands free and data transfer?
I was for a long time leery to Symbian-phones because they weren't very snappy to use and that's a big issues for me. A year ago I bought the predecessor to the E51, the E50 and was very happy with it's features and speed.
I played around with an E51 a few weeks ago and it's even faster, slick as ice to use it! My E50 definitely feels slow after using the E51 for awhile. This phone is the first Symbian phone that is as snappy as the Series 40-phones but with all the goodness that is Symbian.
Way to go Nokia!
Using now the E51 for some time and I can say that the changes to the keypad work very well. Of course some adaptation is required if you use the common S60 keyboard for a long time.
What I noted for changes in keypad E51 key vs. other S60.
"Home" = $S60$-menu key. major change. Home performs a cycle between: empty idle screen/menu/idle screen. press/hold for open items works the same
"Menu" = $S60$-menu key
"backspace x"= c, more logical i think
# = pencil, just a need to know
press/hold # = switch silent/normal profile, same but now with icon on key
* (press/hold)= on/off Bluetooth
Great E51 review on smape.com.
Coool!!!
Is there a front camera for the video calls function???? My black e51 doesn't seem to have one but the silver one seems to have it.
Here's an interesting opinion on the target market of the E51...
Thanks for the good report.
For *my* needs, the E51 seems to be almost perfect. I have the E65 and the E51 has a few things missing in the E65: a. Candy bar without losing a single button, b. New msg LED c. WMA d. Bluetooh stereo audio profile e. Mini jack instead of POPOP e. Radio f. 4GB
However, can someone verify the following about the E51:
a. Does the keypad auto-lock? I am missing this sorely since the 8210.
b. Does it have a hole to tie a strap?
c. Can it stand upright on its bottom like the E65 can?
d. Does it have stereo speakers?
Thank you.
a. Yes the keypad autolocks.
b. There is a little hole on the lower right of the phone but I'm not sure whether it was meant for a strap. You can have a look by yourself on the photos of the smape E51 review:
http://www.smape.com/en/reviews/nokia/Nokia_E51-rev.html
c. It can if you really want to but as it is very thin, it can fell easily.
d. I'm not sure about this one. There is only one speaker hole so I assume it is not stereo right?
I've had the E51 (black) for 1 week, it is a great phone IMO: solidly built, stylish look, love the keypad. The VoIP worked flawessly on HSDPA and wifi.
To be honest I was a little worried about the lenght of the phone looking at the specs but when you hold it in your hand, the size feels just fine 😊.
Is it possible to set the font size to be as small as Nokia E50 or is it bigger anyway even on the smallest setting ? I kinda like Nokia E50 font size; it leaves a feeling of sharp screen...
Does the LED flash for appointments and alarms as well?
Coming from PDAs, that's something I've learned to appreciate a lot.
Also, what's the RAM on this device? This review says 48mb, the Smape review claims 20mb.....?
Why the SAR is so high (1.4W/kg)? The phone is not more powerful or so ever than other similar models; it's not the metal parts of body either.
Any ideas, please?
as a business phone the firmware needs to be upgraded to allow;
- phone numbers from to do lists/ meetings to be hot linked.(so that you don't have to write down on a piece of paper then re enter.
- received sms messages to be converted to, to do lists.
bought it today and could already no longer put up with the excessive fingerprinting on the black e51. i sprayed it with "stainless steel cleaner and repellent" i use for my stainless steel fridge to "repel fingerprints"... it's great now, a few more signs of prints than the fridge but nothing compared to what it was b4! don't spray onto the phone (!!!) - or onto plastic parts according to instructions - spray onto a paper towel and then rub carefully onto the steel part of the phone - not the screen, i tried that too but it wasn't too successful...
heavyduty wrote:Does the LED flash for appointments and alarms as well?
Also, what's the RAM on this device? This review says 48mb, the Smape review claims 20mb.....?
According to the Nokia specs, it's around 50Mb. With nothing running (but not straight after a reboot), Handy Taskman shows mine has 42Mb free. Straight after a reboot, it is 48.4Mb.
Agreed with the comments on the black model being a fingerprint magnet. I think a case would be the answer, but the Krusell one doesn't seem to be available yet.
As I'm currently in Singapore, I haven't had a chance to try out the data side of things yet, nor make many calls.
I recently got the E90 and absolutely love the keyboard (on the top :P). But recently i made the stupid mistake of jogging with it and dropped it from about 3 -4 feet (Gulp!). Luckly it was turf and the phone is fine. I was looking for a backup of sorts so that i can use it in hostile conditions (I am a civil engineer). E51 seems to fit the bill (i would have taken E61/i but the thing is that the phone is slow very low ram etc). I was wondering how the keyboard (numeric) is compared to the e90? And how long will nokia support the device? One of the reasons i got E90 was hoping for long support (esp given this nokia's random updates to random devices).
Unregistered wrote:E51 seems to fit the bill (i would have taken E61/i but the thing is that the phone is slow very low ram etc). I was wondering how the keyboard (numeric) is compared to the e90? And how long will nokia support the device? One of the reasons i got E90 was hoping for long support (esp given this nokia's random updates to random devices).
The alpha numeric keypad of the E51 feels a lot better than the E90's. You're much less likely to make mistakes due to the layout and profile of the keys.
I don't think you will need to worry about support. E series phones receive enough attention as they are marketed at the higher end of the market. Nothing worse than pissing bigger spenders off...
Sat 22 Dec 07, 12:16 p.m.
Hi,
I LOVE the 6300. However, the S40 OS, the mediocre camera quality, and the absolutely TERRIBLE sound quality of the mp3 player are big disappointments.
At least the E51 seems to solve the OS problem, with lots more software available, and I can use big screen flas clocks and psiloc font magnifier which is important as I have low vision. If the sound on the mp3 player is better than the 6300, I'm sold.
Anyone care to comment on the mp3 sound quality and the camera image quality (especially compared to the 6300)?
Thanks, lah!
Aloha,
Rex
getting like 2 days with medium use not impressed get a replacement anyone else seen this?
Hi,
I have just found out that this phone has relatively high SAR values (radiation) compared with other handsets. I feel this is step in the wrong direction. What do you think?
Would it be possible to mention this in you reviews? Or at least mention it for phones that have very low (good) or very high (bad) SAR values?
From Nokia site:
E51: 1.40
E90: 0.65
N95: 0.58
5500: 0.50
The legal limit is 2.0
Source: http://sar.nokia.com/sar/index.jsp
Whilst I respect the jury may be 'out' as to what these figure mean - surely no one wants a higher than necessary radiation source next to their face?
jklondon222 wrote:getting like 2 days with medium use not impressed get a replacement anyone else seen this?
Perhaps you could rearrange those words into a sentence?
Assuming you're talking about battery life, mine has been very variable. Some days it's been showing full power at the end of the day. A couple of other times, power seems to have drained quite quickly, and the handset got warm. I haven't yet identified which particular applications might cause this (I've not been making many calls, but I have been using bluetooth, wifi (at home), and the internet via GPRS). Is there any application that will show CPU or wireless usage, to give some indication of what might be consuming the power?
As I put the phone on charge every night (why wouldn't you?), I can't say how long it will last on one charge.
ETA: To answer one of my questions, I've now installed the Nokia Energy Profiler, so I'll see what that shows next time I notice a problem.