kontraband wrote:Do you care to back this comment up how with just an IMEI you can be putting yourself at risk?Unlike the Electronic Serial Number or MEID of CDMA and other wireless networks, the IMEI is only used to identify the device, and has no permanent or semi-permanent relation to the subscriber. Instead, the subscriber is identified by transmission of an IMSI number, which is stored on a SIM card which can (in theory) be transferred to any handset. However, many network and security features are enabled by knowing the current device being used by a subscriber.
The IMEI is of use for the central blacklist as a method of identifying a stolen handset, the only issue I can see would be a clone IMEI on a stolen handset, but unaware of how that would actually affect you with totally different MEID?
Happy to be told more. 😊
Any cloned phone will be traceable as your phone.
If used for criminal purposes then you run the risk of accusations of involement.
With the world as it is I cannot believe that anyone would leave themselves wide open to such a possibilty.
pa49 wrote:Any cloned phone will be traceable as your phone.
If used for criminal purposes then you run the risk of accusations of involement.
With the world as it is I cannot believe that anyone would leave themselves wide open to such a possibilty.
thats the exact point though, the IMEI is a handset register, not a personal ID to it..
At the very least, some twunt could just make a note of your IMEI and then call any operator and say it's been stolen. Your phone then gets blacklisted and is rendered unusable.
Me: Hi.. my phones been stolen.
T-Mob - Whats your name
Me: I dont know.. but I have my IMEI can you block it?
T-Mob: You what??
I might test this theory and call the operorators up and see what you can do with the IMEI and being a 'twunt'
kontraband wrote:thats the exact point though, the IMEI is a handset register, not a personal ID to it..
That's correct, but, still leaves an element of trace. Definately too risky for me.
amzi160586 wrote:Hi there everyone, Just wanted to provided the opportunity for singing applications as I've been doing a lot of reading about this. I understand that many people would be having difficulty creating an account with symbian signed. Therefore, if you would like me to sign any applications for you just send me a message along with your IMEI number and applicatio you'd like to get signed. I'll be able to do loads of these tomorrow and in the evening.
Thanks everyone!!
Hello amzi!!!!
Can you please provide me rotateme, nokemote and flipsilent? My IEMI is 356996013080402. Thank you so much for your kindess. My email is [email][email protected][/email]
Err didn't korg_n95 read ANY of this thread before posting? :con?
I'm sure when amzi160586 said "send me a message" he meant a PM...
zxon wrote:Err didn't korg_n95 read ANY of this thread before posting? :con?I'm sure when amzi160586 said "send me a message" he meant a PM...
read the previous posts?!?! :con? WHy would anyone do that! 😉
PM sent ... in regard to rotateme app.
Hi guys,
I've signed up for symbiansigned, but I can't seem to find the downloads needed to intialise the files for 'sign me'.
Where do I need to look?
Ta.
Hi guys
I apologise unreserveably for my disgraceful email earlier on and I'm humbled by the polite response.
I was in a frustrated mood because of something else and didn't read the full instructions (like all consultants I have a tendency to think if I can't do it on my own the first time, there is a faulty with the tool and clearly on this occasion ... the fault was all mine).
I had downloaded the Symbian DevCert tool and run it manually generating the certificate, key and key file. I did this before Symbian put the service on hold but when I used signsis I used the wrong key (well ... it used it's own).
When I used the correct key and keyfile it all worked beautifully ... and rotateme is great.
So ... once again ... very sorry ...
Paul.
Honestly, in regards to the danger of presenting your IMEI on the forum: i think there is more harm to be done with presenting your email address in a form that is easily picked up by spammers or anyone here who just merely wants to have fun with it.
Any chance anyone can put me in the direction of downloading the files from SymbianSigned?
I still can't find them on site.
Ta.
Hi there.Have just registered on the forum and am not really sure what I am doing and but I wondered if you could send me a signed app for Rotateme as I don't know how to do it.My IMEI is gobbledeegook.Thank you.
if anyone can help me... I want to install rotateme and flipsilent buy symbiansigned still seems to be offline...
PM me fi you can help and I will send you my IMEI
thank you
Yeah, I was trying to do it myself. But SymbianSigned cannot sign apps unless you "have a publisher ID"
Is there another method or could somebody help do mine?
amzi160586 wrote:Hi there everyone, Just wanted to provided the opportunity for singing applications as I've been doing a lot of reading about this. I understand that many people would be having difficulty creating an account with symbian signed. Therefore, if you would like me to sign any applications for you just send me a message along with your IMEI number and applicatio you'd like to get signed. I'll be able to do loads of these tomorrow and in the evening.
Thanks everyone!!
Could you please STOP this ? ? ?
It's very nice to sign for all people, but this is one of the reasons SymbianSigned stopped free signing for now!
They are not lazy overthere; I think you know, as well as I do, that people will use the certificate also for cracked/illegal software, i.e. Route 66 . . . !
You can lose your account, when SymbianSigned sees that you are signing for many IMEI's, and I think they also know that you don't have so many phones!
Let people register themselves and keep your own account intact!
So how are we meant to sign then?
henklbr wrote:Could you please STOP this ? ? ?It's very nice to sign for all people, but this is one of the reasons SymbianSigned stopped free signing for now!
They are not lazy overthere; I think you know, as well as I do, that people will use the certificate also for cracked/illegal software, i.e. Route 66 . . . !
You can lose your account, when SymbianSigned sees that you are signing for many IMEI's, and I think they also know that you don't have so many phones!
Let people register themselves and keep your own account intact!
I don't think SymbianSigned have stopped free signing for now, they've stopped free signing for good! Take a look at their home page -https://www.symbiansigned.com/app/page - BOLD type in RED! we've all been told off, we're very naughty boys, signing our own apps! The way I see it is that open self signing was for "real" developers who need to test their apps prior to submission for public release, but along comes RotateMe unsigned and everyone wants it. So we all register with SymbianSigned, they in turn say "hey this isn't how it was meant to be" and pull the plug. I blame that French guy Samir.
If you think it was 'rotateme' that prompted symbian signed to drop the free certs, then you don't quite understand basic economics.
Follow the money trail for developer certs and you'll see that it's pure corporate greed at work.
They claim they are receiving 10,000 new cert requests every day and it's causing their system to slow down. That's like 50 megabytes of data transfer for a generous 4k per each signature uploaded. So maybe they have to spit out 400 megabytes in total transfer per day for the entire website, this is hardly what I would consider an issue. My 3 year old laptop could handle that load with a crappy little home DSL connection, and I'd still have the bandwidth and CPU grunt available to watch youtube all day long.
You are right in one respect, most of the cert requests are very likely used for pirated applications, though 'very likely' is still loaded with speculation. Who's to know, maybe there are just lots of new developers out there 😊
This is just a money grab by Symbian and their little shills who give kickbacks for each dev id purchased.
Elzo wrote:So how are we meant to sign then?
From now on it looks like you don't, unless you pony up the money.
I very seriously doubt anyone with a publisher ID is going to offer their services to provide certificates.
I think what this will do though is get people more focused on finding a bypass for the platform security on newer handsets. This is already trivial for phones (including and) prior to the N80
dchky wrote:
Follow the money trail for developer certs and you'll see that it's pure corporate greed at work.
On matters of corporate greed I would normally agree with you. But who's going to fork out $200 just to sign a couple of apps? Hardly anyone will, unless you're a 'real' developer in which case you've probably already got a publisher id.
I also don't believe the reason SymbianSigned have given for pulling the plug. That many requests per day is nothing and as you point out a three year old laptop could cope with that demand.
I think the real reason is what I've said above i.e. signing apps was never meant for non developers and lets face it how many of us are 'real' developers? My guess is less than 1%.
Due to many 1st time posters asking for certs (and posting IMEI and email addresses) dispite symbian signed being down, Im closing this thread till symbian signed starts signing again.