Tomtom 7 for symbian is not out

....looks like someone is gonna be a happy bunny soon 😉

This best not be an April Fools :biggrin:

You bugger you lol

That he is Micky :tongue:

you should go into TT marketing! 😉

i dont know if this is a joke. but last night on another forum, someone made a file which when placed in a certain folder in tomtom, it works with the n95 internal GPS on the current tomtom version. its been confirmed working from the users in that thread. i havent tried it cause i dont have tomtom.

It was indeed a joke, but I dont believe that forum your on about has the answer, I have seen so many claims to have done it yet no-one comes up with the goods. Have you a link?

I don't think you should say that, bartmanekul. I believe GPSM is amending the source file as we speak and they will have a solution ready any day now 😊

(no, not really)

Ah, that reputable establishment. I believe it had progressed to the testing phase, perhaps it didnt pass?

Well the new NavCore 8 is supposed to be on the new TomTom Go x30 range which should be hitting the shops this month. Maybe they've been waiting for its release so they can impliment the new features into the Mobile version also? Maybe we'll hear something soon. I don't think that they'll completely drop the Mobile version from their product line altogether.

No, I doubt it. Why miss version 7 altogether when V6 was so out of date anyway?

My opinion is that we have seen the last of Tomtom on symbian for the immiedate future, until tomtom realise that mobile phones are going to explode into the satnav market.

Ive said it many times before, they havent given any sort of update or fix since Febuary 2007. Same for windows mobile.

All it would take is one flagship phone to have it bundled with it (rather than paying for maps), and I reckon people might start to think....'hang on a mo..'

I certainly don't think that we've seem the last symbian version of TomTom.

Like you say, mobile phones with GPS are becoming more and more common. Even the late adopters, i.e. Sony Ericsson and Samsung are bringing out there solutions now, and Samsung are on the S60 bandwagon too.

There is a huge market out there for navigation software for mobiles, as is clear from the sheer number of packages out there (Route 66, Navicore, Garmin, Viewranger, Navigon, Copilot, the list goes on).

I think it would be a bit narrow minded of Tomtom also being as two of their major competitors in the stand-alone market have both got mobile versions of their software available (Garmin and Navman). Garmin's Mobile XT is very popular as you know and stealing up quite a market share by the way people are talking around the forums.

Only time will tell but I personally think we'll see a new version within the next year.

Next year, maybe. But for this year I think TT have not realised the quick expansion of mobile GPS. I have no doubt they will get on board eventually, but as I said, I dont think we will see a TT symbian release in the immeidiate future.

Of course, Id love to be proved wrong!

Garmin has a large share to be sure, but they shot themselves in the foot when they didnt allow for the 8GB. They still dont cater for it, so you have to use a hack, and lets face it, if you are using the hack, theres not much chance your going to pay. The N95 8GB is possibly the best phone nokia has out at the moment, and Im not sure how it compares figurewise, but I imagine its isolating a lot of users by being memory card only.

Very very true, and lets face it it's not exactly hard for them to make an installer which could install from the memory card, inserted into a pc, onto the 8GB internal memory. Very lazy.

bartmanekul wrote:It was indeed a joke, but I dont believe that forum your on about has the answer, I have seen so many claims to have done it yet no-one comes up with the goods. Have you a link?

i absolutely have a link. though i dont know if i can link to a forum of that nature. there is lots of talk about hacks there, should i post it?

ahhh crap, i have to eat my words. that thread ended up being an april fools joke. what got me was that people actually responded that it was working lmao. well here is the link of the thread that i saw anyway...

http://www.gsmhosting.com/vbb//forum/thread/519938/

Good job I didnt get my hopes up eh? 😉

Out of all the satnavs I have used so far for symbian, Garmin is the best (though not without faults) and navigon a close second.

probably best to edit the title/post itself now eh??

Done 😉

ahhahah nice. 😉

Garmin seems nice, but what's the deal with the frame rate? Have you seen Quake and Quake II on the N95? So very nice frame rates for a mobile phone, considering the advanced graphics. Then how come Garmin is only 1 fps???

Yeah, yeah, I know it isn't hardware accelerated, but the latest betas from Sygic shows us what these phones are capable of. So start going through your code, please, Garmin.

bartmanekul wrote:Good job I didnt get my hopes up eh? 😉

Out of all the satnavs I have used so far for symbian, Garmin is the best (though not without faults) and navigon a close second.

How about CoPilot - or aren't you willing/allowed to tell us yet?

Im currently doing the review, I hope to be finished tonight or tomorrow. However, it then has to be put on the net (I dont do that bit).

However I know that if I start answering questions, I'll be mobbed and there wouldnt be much point in the review.

However, Ill give you a taster...

In the picture, Garmin is yellow and copilot is red.

Bit of an explanation here:

As well as the reviews, I do 3 trips, 2 are reasonably short, and the last is about an hour and a half drive. I always use exactly the same destination and start point. I always use the same settings (car - avoid tolls - fastest route etc), and even if I know its wrong, I follow the instruction the satnav gives me.

I record my route via sports tracker. Thus it gives a true indication of the routing of the satnav. The picture is from the longest journey, comparing Garmin and copilot.

The journey times -

Garmin 1 hour 30 mins

Copilot 1 hour 33 mins

Interesting eh? Given that it was vastly different routes.

Also, I have an offer. If anyone is very good with webdevelopment, and wants to help me for free it would be nice.

While my reviews go up at nokiausers.net, I cant even do a simple html page and so they have to put it up. They simply dont have time for some of the things I want to do, which include:

A flash/java based 'try' window. Basically, a window with screenshot of a satnav software, but clickable. Basically, a little window where you can explore exactly how the satnav works.

My ideal thing is to have a site where every symbian satnav is there for people to see, and try to see if they like the UI and what settings it has.

As well as things like a comparison chart of the satnavs. Things like if it has custom POI, traffic alerts, etc etc. If anyone feels up to this, send me a PM.

Regarding that Garmin/Copilot picture: Don't drive drunk! Looks insane, the red line.

Frame rate any better on copilot than Garmin? I think this is a very important, yet almost always overlooked, point. Garmin can take up to 2-3 seconds displaying a single frame during a turn, which means it is over and done with by the time the proggy catches up. How useful is that?

I knew some questions about copilot would pop up 😉 But as its you sbc, I'll answer that one.

It seems fine to me, but then so does Garmin. I cant see why Garmin lags for you, as I have less RAM and a slower proccessor. I assume your running version .60?

And yeah, the copilot route looks mad, but it was the same time as Garmin (3 mins difference on a journey like that is nothing).

hmmm...interesting.

Looking forward to the review, as...to be honest I miss TomTom!

It's interesting that on a 40min journey from/to work TomTom and Garmin tries to give me a different route. I have no evidence for this but I believe that Garmin tries to limit turns, even if there's an extra minute on the journey it'll skip out a particular shortcut and makes you stay on the road.
I'm a website developer, but unfortunately pretty much don't do flash or Java so can't be much help I'm afraid.

I suspect its more to do with keeping you on a more main road. Garmin has 3 categories (that I know of), minor medium and major. The speeds for each of these will be different. So by keeping you on a 'faster' road, its thinking the journey time is less.

No worries about that. Its a lot of work for not much reward really. Im mainly interested in doing it to help others, though I have no ideas on webdesign yet either, but I do have a domain in mind.

bartmanekul wrote:

My ideal thing is to have a site where every symbian satnav is there for people to see, and try to see if they like the UI and what settings it has.

As well as things like a comparison chart of the satnavs. Things like if it has custom POI, traffic alerts, etc etc. If anyone feels up to this, send me a PM.

Unfortunately mate this would require either:
Access to the GUI code (which no dev is likely to hand out)
OR
Replicating the GUI yourself which would be incredibly difficult and any inaccuracy would render the whole excercise pointless. Plus it would likely be copyright infringement.

Nah, nothing so complicated.

Just a series of clickable images (got from screenshots on the phone). You click on the address menu, it brings you to that screen, with the relevant buttons. And so on.

I doubt very much you would have to have copyright for that.

And I would go through and make sure its accurate. Its not hard, just time consuming. However how to display this on a webpage is well beyond me.