Reasons Why I'm Liking Nokia Maps 2.0

Although I like the idea of a "proper" solution, for me Noka Maps is the most appropriate.

I do travel widely but mostly to the same places - and I know where they are so much of the time I don't need navigation - just seeing my location in real time is novelty enough.

Paying up only when I need it makes the most sense. I've got a month paid for at the moment but that's only so I can get used to it in V2 - I'll pay for Europe only once a year when I go on holiday. What I would like is a �1.50 one week option (or even a 50p one day option).

It's a fair criticism that the functionality is coming down - route planning without "turn by turn" was a good thing in earlier versions.

I can also rely on it working properly with my E90.

In the non-navigation mode (ie. just the base app), does Nokia Maps move in the direction that you are going. I ask, as when I looked at Nokia Maps many months ago, when travelling along with just maps, it would not show the map in the direction that you are going ...... unlike other SatNav systems that do.

I found this a pain, and wonder if it has been changed?

Albie999 wrote:I found this a pain, and wonder if it has been changed?

No 😞

Being a TomTom user (which does this) I also find this disconcerting and a bit of a pain.

Sorry for reviving a dead thread but I wanted to add my 2p.

Got the new phone Tuesday, debranded it, updated the firmware and downloaded the new Nokia Maps plus Nokia Map Loader. I've been using it for work since then and I'm really impressed. Someone mentioned Sheffield earlier and that's where I am and it's very accurate, quick to recalculate and intuitive to use. Full postcode search too, something my Becker sat nav didn't have even though that ran Navteq software.

Regarding cost I think for me Nokia have got it right. As I got the phone free on contract I can look at the navigation as a bonus and paying a few quid every now and again doesn't bother me. The Becker cost about �200 and sat in the glove box most of the time, Nokia's approach is more cost effective. If I wanted the latest Navteq maps I also had to cough up another �100.

One other thing. And I could be wrong about this. When I first played with the phone I'm fairly sure it said I'd got a three day free trial for navigation. After debranding and a firmware update it now says 90 days... 😉

Sounds like your comparing it with a very old satnav.

Maps costing �100 is a total ripoff. For any system, I have not heard of any costing that much.

I cant think of any satnavs which doesnt have full postcode support these days.

Seriously, use a modern decent satnav, and you'll see the cost of Nokia maps is a bit too high.

rich1068 wrote:
Regarding cost I think for me Nokia have got it right. As I got the phone free on contract I can look at the navigation as a bonus and paying a few quid every now and again doesn't bother me. The Becker cost about �200 and sat in the glove box most of the time, Nokia's approach is more cost effective. If I wanted the latest Navteq maps I also had to cough up another �100.

The phone is no free, you are lining Nokia's pockets through subsidies that your network pays through line rental.
�60 / year is a total rip con in my opinion. Nokia sell this device as a GPS enabled device with navigation etc...

I actually think they are loosing money as a result of this new pricing structure. I would pay �60-�100 for a 3 year subscription, but not for 1 year. So they have immediately lost my business. I wonder how many other people would have considered a buying 3 year subscription if the option was available? Better to have 100 people paying for �60 for 3 years than 10 paying �60 per year.

Anand

Nigma wrote:The phone is not free, you are lining Nokia's pockets through subsidies that your network pays through line rental.

OK, let me have another go. I was previously paying �35 pm for a couple of hundred minutes and some text package with a 'free' 6300. Now I'm still paying �35 pm for 750 minutes and unlimited texts but I've got an N95 8GB. As far as I'm concerned it's 'free'.

And as far as 'lining pockets' is concerned it's called 'business' where I'm from. Or maybe everything really should be free? 🙄

It might be 'free', but thats just down to getting a better contract.

Regardless, its nothing to do with nokia maps, its the same mistake a lot of people make.

They get the GPS hardware (the phone) 'free' and just have to pay xx amount for nokia maps.

It just doesnt work that way.

If your ever comparing it with another system - like your old becker one - if your including the phone you have to take into account the monthly rental. While it might be great compared to your old deal, its still �420 a year, or I suspect its an 18 month contract costing �630.

If you were renewing your contract without the phone, you would get a much better deal.

When comparing systems, you count the price of nokia maps against whatever the other system is, otherwise it just doesnt make sense. The phone doesn't enter into the math.

I prefer one year licensing because I rarely keep a phone more than 18 months maximum. However, I think �45 a year is a rip off when you compare it to the alternatives which are a one off payment and not much more than that

3Shirts wrote:I prefer one year licensing because I rarely keep a phone more than 18 months maximum. However, I think �45 a year is a rip off when you compare it to the alternatives which are a one off payment and not much more than that

I agree, I don't tend to keep my phone for more than a year, but I would want to take the software I have paid for over to the new handset.

You can take nokia maps over to new handsets, although Im not sure how that works with free trials.

bartmanekul wrote:Sounds like your comparing it with a very old satnav.

Maps costing �100 is a total ripoff. For any system, I have not heard of any costing that much.

I cant think of any satnavs which doesnt have full postcode support these days.

Seriously, use a modern decent satnav, and you'll see the cost of Nokia maps is a bit too high.

Really, it all comes down to how you use Maps, doesn't it? My car is used for a lot of business travel, and has the manufacturer's built-in SatNav (and yes, the Navteq CDs cost around �100, but do include firmware updates).

My wife's car is largely used for short-ish, local journeys and doesn't have, or need, SatNav. However, two or three times a year we'll use my wife's car for a longer run as it's a seven seater and saves taking two cars if we're going somewhere with friends or relatives. Under these circumstances, having Maps available and paying for week-long navigation subscription a couple of times a year is brilliantly convenient, and far cheaper than buying a dedicated SatNav (and as I can listen to directions through a Bluetooth headset rather than having to compete for volume with the children watching DVDs, it's great for family holidays).

And as an aside, I can personally vouch for the usefullness of Google maps on the phone when out for a long walk with the family and a child starts to get a bit tired. Showing them where you are, where the car park is, and the progress you're making, all on satellite photos is excellent. Worth several SatNav subscriptions, in my opinion!

Are we not all forgetting something....?!?!?!?!

NOKIA MAPS 2.0, AS "SATNAV" AT LEAST, IS SHOCKINGLY BAD...!

I paid for the 1mth option for �6. Seemed fair. I had a couple of long trips so timed it so my 1mth would cover both.

BIG MISTAKE.

It worked for a while, but took FOREVER to calculate routes.

Then, on journeys, it would just lose the route altogether, and diplay that little "pull over" icon - even when it had a GPS fix, and I was only doing 50mph on a straight road (the A1 in this case)....

So.... We pull over, sit there, kid screaming in the back, wife quite rightly asking what was wrong with my XDA Exec w/ TT5 that I had to switch to this, and....... Nothing. Piece of sh*t.

After that, it just froze when calculating routes altogether. Going online at the startt-up didn't make any difference.

Total piece of junk.

My N95 8GB is debranded, clean, no other 3rd party software. A reinstall of Nokia Maps from the mass memory didn't help, either.

I'll admit Google maps are good. Ever been in Leeds city centre with your wife, looking for some bizarre little dress shop down an alley somewhere...? Fire up the Satellite imagery and you're laughing - you don't need the navigation/guidance.

But as a piece of everyday SatNav..? FORGET IT.....!

I'm just glad I tried the 1mth license.

On the 2nd trip I had to get my XDA out of retirement, re-do all the dashboard clips, dig out the original TT5 SD card (since I'd wiped and 'recycled' my own 1gb SD card elswhere...) - TOTAL NIGHTMARE.....!

And let's remember, this is Nokia's OWN SOFTWARE, on Nokia's OWN HARDWARE!

There should be ZERO tolserance to any problems like this.

Very disappointing, but not worth the hassle at �6 to chase a refund.

You can't argue with �40 for R66 V8.

deebr, your liking the subscription model, rather than the program itself it seems.

Ive always said the subscription model is a good idea (dispite it not being my thing), because it suits mobile users more.

But wheres the speedcams, custom POI and all that?

My wife's car is largely used for short-ish, local journeys and doesn't have, or need, SatNav. However, two or three times a year we'll use my wife's car for a longer run as it's a seven seater and saves taking two cars if we're going somewhere with friends or relatives. Under these circumstances, having Maps available and paying for week-long navigation subscription a couple of times a year is brilliantly convenient

Ah, but you cannot do that. This is one of my gripes with their subscription model.

Your paying for a month. I sound like a broken record, but wouldnt it make huge sense to have day and week options available? That would be of far more use to people like you, Im sure.

bullet22 wrote:Are we not all forgetting something....?!?!?!?!

NOKIA MAPS 2.0, AS "SATNAV" AT LEAST, IS SHOCKINGLY BAD...!

Not my experience at all.

rich1068 wrote:Not my experience at all.

Nor mine at first - it quickly deteriorated into something unusable though.

I was gonna post a video on YouTube showing how long it took to calculate a route - but never bothered.

If it works for you, go for it.

I think it is sh*t.

bartmanekul wrote:deebr, your liking the subscription model, rather than the program itself it seems.

Ive always said the subscription model is a good idea (dispite it not being my thing), because it suits mobile users more.

But wheres the speedcams, custom POI and all that?

Ah, but you cannot do that. This is one of my gripes with their subscription model.

Your paying for a month. I sound like a broken record, but wouldnt it make huge sense to have day and week options available? That would be of far more use to people like you, Im sure.

That'll teach me for not checking the software first. You're quite right, of course, the minimum subscription is a month. Having said that, although I didn't explicitly state that I like the software, I do. Perhaps this is because we tend to use it as a second SatNav, but it works out where I am within a couple of minutes, lets me key in a destination, works out a route quickly enough, and gets me to my destination. Really, that's all I want it to do.

Maybe I'm a bit old-school, but I'm still amazed that my mobile phone can do stuff other than make phone calls. I don't expect it to be able to be as competant at SatNav as a dedicated unit. Similarly, I don't expect it to be as good at taking pictures as a dedicated camera or as good at playing music as a dedicated MP3 player.

Thats fair enough. Having used all the other ones for symbian though, I can see what nokia maps is missing. They could do so much more and very easily be the best.

And like you, I find what mobiles can do now amazing, and satnav on them still fascinates me.