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Impulse bought an E71....

9 replies · 4,707 views · Started 26 September 2008

So I was in Best Buy yesterday. Just browsing around and noticed that they sell unlocked phones. Not much of a selection, but this one phone caught my eye. I compared the sleek and sexy E71 to my current Blackberry Curve, and as much as I like my Curve (big BB fan here), I was comparing apples to oranges in terms of looks and build (this E71 feels high quality, I have never owned a Nokia, this is the first).
I just had to get it. Plus, I like to try new things.
So far, I have no real issues with this phone, except that I have no experience what so ever with Symbian. Heck, I didn't know what this S60 business was about until I googled it.
I got my email set up, all my contacts transfered over, some music on my microSD card, downloaded Google Maps. Its all great, just loving it.

But of course, I have a few questions.

I am pretty basic when it comes to things I need the phone to do, and I think that the E71 has most of the things I need. On my Curve, I had this Microsoft app, Live Search, I loved it. Finding out movie times was simple with Live Search. Does something like that exist for the E71?

And finally, is there anything a total newb should know about Symbian or the E71 thats not in the manual (been reading it, figured out a lot of things from it).

Thanks in advance for any help, now back to messing with the phone 😊

Live Search is only for movies or search for multiple items?...i didnt use BB before and am blind about thsis application.

About the manual...good to read it if u have time...you only need to know that 3rd party applications will make your E71 really different and considering a heavy E90 user i install more than 50 applications.

search for the applications u will find them anywhere but the problem we ont have app store (like iPhone) for symbian...its spreaded randomly on the web...

I have had blackberries for years and the E71 is only my second Symbian phone over the years (first was an N75 in 2007 which I got rid of very quickly). BBs are great phones, yet somehow they always left me wanting that little bit more. They sorely miss the "x factor." Which brings us to the E71 which seems to ooze "x factor" from all angles. Nokias are similar to BBs, good battery life, solid OS and good build quality. So I said what the heck and bought an E71 the day I saw it. Quite a lot of money for an impulse purchase at $475 in India, but there are worse things to be addicted to (at least that's what I tell myself!)

On the positive side (I am a positive kind of guy 😊), the E71 outshines the competition on various counts:
1. Form factor and sex appeal - The super thin chrome body which is made of actual metal (as opposed to metal-like plastic on BBs and other devices) is a big win. You will not pull it out at an airport or shopping mall without people noticing it. In a good way. I don't know why there is an inch or two of wasted space below the keyboard, but I won't complain.
2. Build quality - This has been a Nokia given for years now. It feels really solid. I can't speak for the European or American batches, the batch that is sold in India is really solid. No squeaks and rattles and loose doors here (BB, you lost some credibility with the Pearl and early batches of the Curve). Its properly weighted and feels "right" in the hand.
3. Battery life - BBs tend to have good battery lives, but this one does better. With solid data and phone usage, it still lasts two days and two nights which is very good in my book.

Speaking strictly about the OS, Symbian will do most everything a BB OS will do, except in my opinion, it takes a few extra clicks to accomplish the same tasks compared to a BB:
1. Take for example texting someone from the home screen. On the BB, you just type the name, hit menu - text and off you go. On the Symbian though, you have to type name, select contact, then select menu - send message and most amazingly click again for text message (I DON'T want to send an email, I just selected create message from the text message field, not email field!).
2. Copying and pasting things on the Symbian is also a bit of a kluge - menu - use number - copy when it could very easily be menu-copy. Extra clicks.
3. Take dialing alternate number for instance - I dialed someone's cell and hung up and now want to dial their home number. On a BB, you can just hit send, go to call list, menu - dial home. On Symbian, you can't seem to dial alternate numbers from call history. You have to go back into the contact and hit the alternate number you now want to dial. Extra clicks.
4. Symbian also insists on telling you what its doing and wants your input for every little thing which can get annoying. "Packet data connection active." "Packet data connection on hold." "Profile changed to general." I know the profile changed, becuase I just changed it!! It announces that I just plugged in the ear phones. I know I plugged in the ear phones because I just did! I don't need to be told when the bits and bytes move over the wires, just for the phone to do its work and let me do mine. I spend too many hours on conference calls where you have to input several numbers in sequence - toll free, followed by passcode followed by other key combinations. These annoying system messages get in the way and I most always have to enter passcodes a second time to get it right after having dismissed the system notices. Extra clicks that are really annoying.
5. Geotagging photos - On the BB, its seamless. The camera app automatically uses the current GPS location (or last known GPS coordinates if current position is unavailable). In Symbian, you have to download a separate application from Nokia to tag your photos. Even more annoyingly, you have to launch that application first before launching camera and wait for the damn thing to acquire GPS signal. The application will also not run in the background (at least on my phone) as it will periodically quit. Sure, I can ask the train thundering past me to wait and pose for the photograph while I launch an application and wait for it to acquire GPS signal. That's practical. The 3.2 MP camera is abominable and has well-documented image quality problems that we are all waiting for Nokia to fix with a firmware update (they have done that in the past).
6. Then there are the icons. While iPhone and the BB Bold (I haven't seen one in person, just going by online reviews of pre-production models) are moving the benchmark further and further on graphics and screen resolution and what not, the Symbian OS has a distinct 1970s Nintendo Console feel to it. Who makes phone these days where the pixely pop-up messages have a teal background that clashes with the screensaver or the application you have open??? I mean, get with the program.

I will admit at this point I am being nitpicky. Overall though, while it doesn't match the usability of a BB or the amazingly intuitive futuristic feel of an iPhone, Symbian will do most of the smartphone tasks pretty well. On the plane of smartphone OSes (strictly from a user interface perspective), I would place BB first, iPhone's OS X second, Symbian third and Windoze mobeel a distant 99th. When it is combined with really good hardware such as in the E71, I will take it happily.

Your mileage may vary.

Solutions:

1. Install SkiQuiKey.

2. Copy & Paste on the nonQWERTY keypad by holding the # and move the cursor...on QWERTY there is CTRL+C.

3.Install Best Call manager.

4.Hmmm..donno.

5.It works seemlessly on Nseries...Eseries multimedia capabilities is too inferior for Nseries...its annoying and force me to buy 2 phones...i mean buy an Nseries phone 3.5 earphone and 2.5mm adapter and have alook on the N78 Gallery and Photos and Video Center and.........etc.

6.Only E66 and E71 has these icons...related to the Age of Empires...install a theme with different icons quickly...there is a lot of them for free...tons on the web.

Ammar_Dento wrote:Solutions:

1. Install SkiQuiKey.

2. Copy & Paste on the nonQWERTY keypad by holding the # and move the cursor...on QWERTY there is CTRL+C.

3.Install Best Call manager.

4.Hmmm..donno.

5.It works seemlessly on Nseries...Eseries multimedia capabilities is too inferior for Nseries...its annoying and force me to buy 2 phones...i mean buy an Nseries phone 3.5 earphone and 2.5mm adapter and have alook on the N78 Gallery and Photos and Video Center and.........etc.

6.Only E66 and E71 has these icons...related to the Age of Empires...install a theme with different icons quickly...there is a lot of them for free...tons on the web.

The call manager and the skye application cost over $60. I don't think a smartphone OS should make us spend a good bit of money extra to provide smartphone features.

Well done on your purchase. I have a white version E71 from WOM to trial, and initially, I hated it, this being my first ESeries experience, I thought I would not warm to it, but I have, and finding it a great device, i swallow my words from what i said before elsewhere about the E71, its a great device, from looks, build quality, to OS, cannot fault it now, but at first i was having problems with the keys, too small I thought, but after a couple of days, i find them quite easy to get along with 😊

Best call manager for 12$ only...donno about SkyQuiKey but they are crazy if they want 48$...T9Nav equal SkyQuiKey in function and it can search for everything from contacts to calendar to bookmarks and media and ITS FREE but still in beta and need more clicks than SkyQuiKey...give it a try and give us a feed back.

you definitely made the right getting into s60 phones. i see you are in the USA, so am i. symbian is not very popular here, but it actually is the most popular smartphone operating system in the world for mobile phones. i have had the n95 and now the e71, and i'm an s60 nut basically. there are a few basic things, like holding down the menu/home button will bring up a list of apps currently running in the background. basically s60 is like a mini computer type OS for mobile phones. but its the best of both worlds because its not over the top like windows mobile. but its much more powerful than regular phones. and the e71 is the latest s60 phone and one of the best out there. i do miss my n95 with its 5MP auto focus camera.

s60 has a learning curve so give it some time and you learn all the ins and outs of how to use it effectively and efficiently. it is very powerful and has tons of apps to install, just like you would need to install programs on your computer. s60 has tons of apps to install to your phone to make it better. handy taskman, smartlight, google maps, these are a few that i cannot live without and go onto every new s60 phone i buy. good luck and you have gotten into the world of s60, no turning back now! i will never own another phone other than s60 lol.

Ammar_Dento wrote:Solutions:

1. Install SkiQuiKey.

2. Copy & Paste on the nonQWERTY keypad by holding the # and move the cursor...on QWERTY there is CTRL+C.

3.Install Best Call manager.

4.Hmmm..donno.

5.It works seemlessly on Nseries...Eseries multimedia capabilities is too inferior for Nseries...its annoying and force me to buy 2 phones...i mean buy an Nseries phone 3.5 earphone and 2.5mm adapter and have alook on the N78 Gallery and Photos and Video Center and.........etc.

6.Only E66 and E71 has these icons...related to the Age of Empires...install a theme with different icons quickly...there is a lot of them for free...tons on the web.

Here's the update.

1. Skyequikey installed but kept crashing all the time. Nice idea though, I liked the global search and one touch text/email.
2. Best call manager was way overkill. And it would not send all calls to answering machine if I didnt answer for a specified period of time. The "Accept all calls" feature automatically de-activates call manager. And from the time I played with it, it didnt add any shortcuts or smart features to the call log that comes up by pressing the answer key, so alternate dialing is still a kluge.

The answering machine feature did catch my interest though and I am now trying Best Voice Inbox. I like the features and the seamless operations, but too early to tell if its reliable. Will keep you posted.

Thanks so much for your suggestions BTW.

Whoa, got a bunch of replies and didn't notice any email notifications, sorry about that.

I kept wondering why some of the responses didn't match what I asked, lol.

Anyways, I am still enjoying this phone. I found it to be easy to use, even though I had to read the manual to fully understand it. I like it more and more everyday. Main thing I like about it is that its uncommon, unlike the iPhone that I see at least 5 times a day.

But I have a quick question. The other day I noticed a bunch of dust under the screen when I was out in the daylight. Its not noticeable indoors, or when the screen is active. But with the display off, its clear as day.

I Googled it and found that other people have this issue also, I'm just trying to get a feel for how widespread it is.

Thanks again for the advice, I appreciate it very much.