Crack Programs For Nokia 9210

FAO hazy1uk

Firstly I would liek to say that I am not stealing nothing, I have every right to use my friends software for FREE, if they want me to.

And if it was a life or death situation to steal, then I would do it from the developers, because they really don't know how to price there products!

But anyway, like many other people I know we all Share our software for our 9210's so we don't have to waste money, if one person buys a programme about 30 other people have it for FREE, now that is really GREEEEEAT!

HAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa

Don't I just love it!

Those so called 'smart ass' developers tried to tie the software with the seriel number, well it didn't work! As it cost me �5 quid for well over �400 worth of software, now that is a bargin!

I just love it!

What a shame someone is losing out!

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On 2002-04-05 2150, Anonymous wrote
I think the software must be for free!!!!!!!!!
The Communicator is expensive enough!!!!!!!

Thierry
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Yes I agree with you 100%, i paid �850 for my 9210 and spent another �1000 on 8 memory cards!

I have to get my money back somehow, so there is no way that i'm gonna spend any money on software, it should be FREE!

OHHHHH YESSSS! FREEEEEEEEEE]

bounce is a load of crap, and triple pop is bollocks!

Its just hard luck that the developers suffer, thats life, everyone in that type of industry has to expect it!

Microsoft lose �100m's every year through pirated software, do you see them cryin about it! No you don't because they make �100's billions, from the software they sell!

Just take it, thats life!

HAHAHAAAAAAAAAa

I love it, FREE software. It serve them developers tryin to put codes on there programmes, seriel number reprogramming costs �5, and is a bargin, when, if your like me have got over �400 worth of FREe software,

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On 2002-04-05 2253, TANKERx wrote
Crappy free software with the 9210!? Wash your mouth out with battery acid young man!

TriplePop is poptastic! Bounce is bouncy! The office suite is sweet and the PIM functions are... ermmmmm... well, they're..... ermmmm... brilliant!

If people like you keep ripping pennies from developers, we can expect to see the ever impressive updates to the PowerDatas, Smallbases and ActiveDesks of this world dry up.

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Oh another thing, if anyone wants ther 9210 seriel number reprogrammed, just look in exchange n mart, autotrader etc... there are hundreds on people doing it.

Just show them a official shop receipt and they'll reprogramme it for about �5, which is well worth it.

HAs to be a bargin on the year, i think!

dont you think it wouldve been smarter to just buy 7 mmcs and buy software with the money you spent on the other one.

oh well, i think buying 7 mmcs is not the smartest thing to do anyways

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Firstly I would liek to say that I am not stealing nothing, I have every right to use my friends software for FREE, if they want me to.
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Did you know that IMEI is used to uniquely identify your phone by your network provider. Do you want to recive your friends calls and SMS?

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And if it was a life or death situation to steal, then I would do it from the developers, because they really don't know how to price there products!
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Try to write something by yourself. Then you may flay.

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Those so called 'smart ass' developers ..
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Are you thinking you smart? You are really mistaken.

4u2nv a quick note, if one of your mates has his phone nicked, the networks use the IMEI number to deactivate the phone and it can then only be reactivated by the network provider, not much of a problem unless the guy who originally had the IMEI number you all copied has his phone nicked and you all find your phones deactivated.

As for the stealing/sharing argument. Say you buy, for want of a better example, a a goldfish. Now you want to share the goldfish with a friend, only one can have it at a time. When you buy software you are buying a license to use 1 copy of the software, now you could share this with a friend, but if you and your friend have copies at the same time you are no longer sharing but one of you is stealing. That itself carries a �5000 fine if you are caught, that fine is per software package. Piracy isn't just cracking the programs, it's "sharing" it as you put it. Remember currently in america you will get a 10-20 year prison sentence and $50,000 fine for what you are doing, and the government in the UK are planning on bringing in similar laws soon.

I think it is worth pointing out that this guy (4u2nv) has recently posted on another thread that he's going to upgrade to the 9210i when its available. So can we assume that means more money to Nokia and more feeble excuses as to why he won't pay for software? So more money to the big guys and none for the development companies.

I'm sure many of these developers would love being compared to Microsoft. But they are not selling billions (not even thousands probably) to corporations. They are relying mostly on consumers like each one of us. If we don't pay, they don't build software. If they don't build software, the 9210 fails. If the 9210 fails everyones losing out.

I would also love to get a breakdown from 4u2nv on optimum price points for software. He obviously has some useful insights into this as he can so forcefully state that the 9210 software is overpriced.

And statements like
I think the software must be for free!!!!!!!!!
The Communicator is expensive enough!!!!!!!

Are just so - well - rediculous. The logic here is that I pay a lot to party A for a certain product, so another product from party B should be free. That make's sense. NOT!

It MIGHT is the software was being developed by Nokia. But it is not.

Developers MUST protect the licensing of their software. What will happen is that they will find alternative methods such as tieing software to phone numbers and not IMEI codes.

One last suggestion lets ignore people like this. They are such a waste of time.

I didnt really want to get involved with this thread as its kind of obvious that its a reflection of this mixed up post Thatcher world we now live in .

It appears that the stealing is justified by the price paid for the nokia 9210.

Its like buying an expensive car then then trying to justify stealing the petrol to run it.

When some one writes software they have a choice Freeware/Shareware/or sell it .

The majority of writers would like to offer freeware but they also decide to live honestly ie pay for thier houseing elcectricty gas etc buy thier computeurs rather than steal them and be proud of the way they live even if its hard and they have to make choices about there life style .

Its all to do with dignity really

Respect of oneself and others

It takes a lot more courage to say no than yes

I know its not easy for people today not to follow the crowd the pressure is there from the ads the cinema,sport and the example is not really given from higher up employers dont respect employees politicians dont respect the laws the police take sides and somewhere the notion of if you aint got money you aint got nothing has crept in and taken over.

I know it is not easy to be young and in the UK (I go there about twice a month for my job) but it aint easy to be young anywhere today (I go there as well about twice a month too )

And yes it does sadden me to say this and to see it all around accross the world

It doesent take much to change it just a bit of courage to be different

The link below explains a bit better what I badly try to say

http//video.hbs.edu/playVideo.jhtml?clip=cy2002_kamen

Its a lecture given at the harvand buisness schooll by Dean Kamen

Chris

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Rafe, i think this thread has had it's day! By the way, i payed �400 for my 9210, legitimately! If you choose to throw your money at a conman with a smile you need all the help you can get.
I used to have a mate who nicked car stereos for a living, or taxed them as he put it, then he started nicking from me! If it's in the blood it stays there.<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by hazy1uk on 2002-04-07 0116 ]</font>

"<I>Its just hard luck that the developers suffer, thats life, everyone in that type of industry has to expect it!</I>"

I'll no longer complain about developers forcing us to use Username or IMEI numbers to create a Registration Number.

Put it like this, if everyone of us decided that you're right, development for the Nokia 9210 would <B>stop</B>. EpocWare, ActiveDesk and all the others would have to start developing for the PocketPC and we'd be left with an unsupported device.

But, I think that the people posting their pro-piracy posts are winding the rest of us up.

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On 2002-04-06 1417, Zeus wrote
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Firstly I would liek to say that I am not stealing nothing, I have every right to use my friends software for FREE, if they want me to.
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Did you know that IMEI is used to uniquely identify your phone by your network provider. Do you want to recive your friends calls and SMS?

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Actually, the network uses both your IMEI and your IMSI (International Mobile Subscriber Identity) to identify you on the network. So you won't get anyone else's calls unless you clone your friend's SIM.

But 4u2nv will have quite a problem if one of his friend's phones is stolen; the network might blacklist it and the blacklist might also be circulated to other networks.

Back to the topic at hand
While many have tried to justify software piracy, most have not been able to convince many. Whether or not 4u2nv's actions are wrong, I feel I cannot judge, not being a developer.

I would say this however The use of the 9210 (and future products based on the same platform) will surely expand greatly should there be more freeware available. Platforms with lots of freeware are generally more accessible and thus more popular. But of course, the 9210 is an expensive product; if you could afford it, can't you afford the software? (please don't think me judgemental here, these are simply questions for you to ask yourself)

Should current developers reduce the cost of their software? For my own selfish reasons, I must answer yes! But then again, I wouldn't like to see the developers go hungry because their IP rights are violated.

One possible solution could be what's happening to M$ - even with the huge amount of piracy going on with their products, they're still (literally) rolling in the billions ....not that any Symbian developers are likely to do so anytime soon, alas.

Oh well, there will always be pirates and there will always be those fighting the pirates - another one of those neverending struggles which will surely fill message boards like these for a long, long time.....to the battle!

4u2nv is probably a developer preparing us for a price rise!!!

Just to let everyone know I am still wathcing this thread. I dont think I need to add anything t what has already been seen. I think most people reading this thread will see the bad logic behind any of the pro-warez arguments.

The thing people must remember is that by illegally copying (lending or whatever you choose to call it) you are just shooting youself in the foot as it will cause development to stop.

I too understand that not everyone has money to spend, but if you cant afford it, you cant afford it. I can't afford to buy a 9210 so don't have one and yet I still run this site (so dont complain!).

Software for the 9210 is very good value. Compare it to the prices of some PPC or desktop PC software and you will see what I mean.

Rafe

Talking about you not having a 9210 what happened to the pay pal thing to get up some cash for you to get a 9210.

Though i think hanging on for a 9210i would be smarted but hy it could take time to get the cash anyway.

Well I have brought 9 MMC's as I tarvel alot, and they all have video clips stored on them, as I mostly use the 9210 for watching prerecorded TV programmes etc...

BYE!

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On 2002-04-06 1349, sexybeast wrote
dont you think it wouldve been smarter to just buy 7 mmcs and buy software with the money you spent on the other one.

oh well, i think buying 7 mmcs is not the smartest thing to do anyways
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I'm not even gonna bother, replyimg to each of the messages which relate to me, as I can't be bothered.

But I can only say one last thing and that is that I will continue to use software that other people have given me for FREE, even though it may not be right in some peoples eyes!

So Goodbye and good luck in tryin to stop people sharing software, CD. DVD'd etc...

It's a Billion � worldwide market and I'm not gonna do anything to stop it growing!

sad, really....

So y dont they use cell number for reg code (As some1 mentioned)?
It has so many benifits to the imei.

Mmm...

I had a problem with my first 9210 and they gave me a new one!

What a mess in getting all my software reg again and that was when i still had very little.

Next year i wanna go to the 9210i and will guess i should have a stash of apps by then.... ug sound like a real pain comming up!

But my cell number has been the same for um about 4 years not and dont think i will change anytime soon either!

Also if i sell my phone now i delete all the stuff on it but hy i still got reg codes that work.

But if its per number i can sell my phone 2nd had and the new owner will not be able to just use the apps with out buying then since he will have a diff cell number!<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by KayonLord on 2002-04-09 1134 ]</font>

YEs it is isn't it!

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On 2002-04-08 1942, Anonymous wrote
sad, really....
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Well when I sell my 9210 to make way for the new 9210i, as soon as it comes out, I won't have that problem of reregistering all of software again!

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On 2002-04-09 1130, KayonLord wrote
So y dont they use cell number for reg code (As some1 mentioned)?
It has so many benifits to the imei.

Mmm...

I had a problem with my first 9210 and they gave me a new one!

What a mess in getting all my software reg again and that was when i still had very little.

Next year i wanna go to the 9210i and will guess i should have a stash of apps by then.... ug sound like a real pain comming up!

But my cell number has been the same for um about 4 years not and dont think i will change anytime soon either!

Also if i sell my phone now i delete all the stuff on it but hy i still got reg codes that work.

But if its per number i can sell my phone 2nd had and the new owner will not be able to just use the apps with out buying then since he will have a diff cell number!

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But will Somebody say to the end where to find programs will warez for Nokia or what?
Spirit with people of the forum to obtain it. Thank you.

Please, they read this interesting article signed by Richard Stallman and subscribed by me, and nonsingle by me.

http//www.gnu.org/philosophy/shouldbefree.html

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Free softwhere is all nice and well!
I write some stuff that i had out for free no stress (on linux and open source bla bla bla, its great to feel part of some online project and etc!)!

But i also write stuff that i charge for (At work and I do want to be able to buy food pay rent etc!)

But hang on I know y does every1 just give me a donation of XXXXXXXXX pounds a month and i will write you all the free software you want and leave my job and do full time open source free software and i'll setup a pay pal right now!!

Sounds good!

Some of the stuff sounds good on paper here i must say but have you ever read the Communist manifesto! Man it sounds good on paper to!

Ops sorry think i lost it abit there every now and then.... i think people just need to pay for pay software or look for a free product that does the same, i think the owner should have a choice bla bla bla

just lost intestest in this topic...!

Oh, yes.

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Oh, s�.

Thank you very much KayondLord to supply the Communist Manifesto to me. I will be enchanted, not only to read it, but to try to include/understand its concepts. Thank you very much again.

why doesn't anyone shut this post down ?

I'd say the best way to get rid of these people is by simply ignoring their posts.

or killing them.

them posts I mean !

I will publish Keygenz for serial protected nokia apz !
Most people use cracks serialz keygens and illegal warez,why pay for software when you can have it for free.
Do you know how many people in the world use illegal copys of windows 95,98,NT,2k,XP Linux and other warez ?

HACK THE PLANET !!!!

To have if it is truth that soon you are decided to share Warez programs for the Nokia this.

You we thank for it from already and we will support to you as soon as it is necessary and it is in our hand.

Thank you very much.

HACK THE PLANET!