Below the break is the HQ, wide-screen version of the latest video demo/promo for the upcoming N97, now showing some additional screens and transitions. All pretty convincing, though of course the proof will be in the pudding, as we say in the UK! Watch this space.
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Steve, do you know they mean by "visual bookmarks"? Widgets or something else?
I have high hopes for the Nokia N97.
This commercial/promo takes on a much more direct approach and utilizes American citizens and their 'connectivity values' instead of their usual generic promotionals that are much more laid back.
Nokia is clearly trying to make an impression and establish itself in the American market which is dominated by another touch music phone (iPhone).
I wish Nokia N97 the best. If this phone gets even 10-15% of the touch phone market share in the US, it would be a huge success. As far as market penetration is concerned, Nokia never had a problem in getting tech-heavy users from Europe and the Asia-Pacific.
Argh...they're still using the double and single tap combos on the N97 like on the 5800...i was praying hard that they would eliminate that and only go for single taps.....oh well..still gonna get this device =D
The double tap requirement seems to be so that users can highlight an item with a single tap without activating it, and use the options menu with that item as the focus.
A way to simplify this would be to always have a single tap to activate anything, but holding down the finger or stylus would display an options menu with that item as the focus. In fact that's exactly what Nokia already use on their internet tablets, so it definitely works. All they have to do is transfer this convention from the tablets to the phones.
uhh why the heck is nokia promoting "connectivity" with americans in the video when the N97 is not even gonna support 3G here in the states?? makes no sense....
Whether the N97 is a success in the US depends entirely on AT&T offering it subsidized. Especially during this economic downturn, I don't see many people paying $700+ for a phone.
Unregistered, err.... ever heard of the so called NAM versions of Nokia phones?
Hi Steve et al,
All these things about N97 look fantastic and I look forward to seeing if it stands up to replacing my 9300 (!!). So far all we've seen are internet, and media apps. But I still use the 9300 because it is the best business phone. Period (well, Psion 5mx was not a phone 😉 ).
If you need to work on spreadsheets, projects, documents and "serious stuff" it is hard to beat. E90 with its single-button menus never appealed to me.
So Steve, here is a challenge for you:
I have been reading your reviews since I discovered Psion3 in 1997 - and you always put great emphasis on type-ability, document editing, etc. How about you write something about office apps (if there are any) on N97?
How about file management? Does it have a real File manager (I mean, where we can see all files in physical folders - not the for-dummies version like on other s60 phones (well, I have E70 - never used it for anything other than internet browsing and taking pics. So much about "business phone" and office apps :-/ )).
Anyway, something for reviewers to think about and hopefully put on their to-do lists 😉.
I hope the video review promised for April will cober some of it?
Thanks
Nokia is so full of it. Everytime someone talks is all mumbo jumbo. Then they show the presentation of the phone doing all sort of things like when they show the browser with smooth transitions. At the end its all BS. Nokia with never dethrown the safari browser.
Unregistered wrote:Nokia is so full of it. Everytime someone talks is all mumbo jumbo. Then they show the presentation of the phone doing all sort of things like when they show the browser with smooth transitions. At the end its all BS. Nokia with never dethrown the safari browser.
What throne? Stop making fanboyish comments and check the marketshare, then tell me what throne are you talking about.
The more that I see from Nokia concerning the N97, the more I am being convinced that they have been doing a better job of processing feedback and making the kinds of changes needed that will make its eventual launch a success.
I do have to admit that the USAmerican orientation of this video was quite pleasing. There was something paid attention to in respect to power, prosumer, and normob mobile users in this piece. And that's a good thing. Not just listening, but figuring out how to answer in terms that can be heard.
What remains to be seen from Nokia (and this will be to come) is the response in terms of customer support (for NA markets) and availability/pricing. I would assume unlocked and BestBuy, but I wonder if they could pull off something with TMobile or ATT and really set the market up for something nice. Considering the Skype integration, supporting TMobile's UMA service might not be something too far off in application.
Side note: sucks that my N95 NAM could not pull up this video as it was sitting embedded in the page. I had to get on a Windows PC to see this version of Flash since I've not seen an update to Flash Lite, the browser, or rest of the firmware in many, many months.
Hope for the N97 to be better; realistic that I might end up with another N95 NAM. Such is life in the mobile lane.
those were CNN/NBC/CBS, maybe they are getting ready on making a deal with a carrier or Nokia will provide the service which I won't be surprised at all, making FREE services for consumers like OVI is what attracts people.
This makes a good ad featuring consumer feedback and the things you can do with Symbian.
plz plz plz ATT or T-Mobile, I don't want to spend 600+ again on a Nokia x.x or I'll be broke.
Well I already love my 5800 but I think S60 really needs a keyboard. Just wondering where the E90 is headed...
zyler wrote:Well I already love my 5800 but I think S60 really needs a keyboard. Just wondering where the E90 is headed...
Me too. Has anyone used the Xperia keyboard the N97 keyboard? To me they look very similar, if thats the case i'll pass.
Dragon011 wrote:I mean, where we can see all files in physical folders - not the for-dummies version like on other s60 phones.
??? What wrong with the file manager? I've always been happy with the layout (at least on my E90 main screen). Folder list on the left, all files in that folder listed on the right. Very windows exploder layout.
tzer2 wrote:The double tap requirement seems to be so that users can highlight an item with a single tap without activating it, and use the options menu with that item as the focus.A way to simplify this would be to always have a single tap to activate anything, but holding down the finger or stylus would display an options menu with that item as the focus. In fact that's exactly what Nokia already use on their internet tablets, so it definitely works. All they have to do is transfer this convention from the tablets to the phones.
Anyone remember IE (4?) when it made all icons in Windows single click? How many of us switched the setting back to double click as we kept opening things we didn't need?!) I don't mind having to double click 5th edition, especially with my fat fingers!
I wait for the Palm Pre instead of this half assed attempt to piggy back a touch layer to a 8 years old obsolete UI/OS.
"I wait for the Palm Pre instead of this half assed attempt to piggy back a touch layer to a 8 years old obsolete UI/OS. "
And you'll get pretty and sugarcoated UI layer strapped onto 17 year old LINUX kernel witout any support for native apps.
That's if Palm won't go bankrupt before Pre is out.
Mobile Observer, the Palm Pre OS is piggybacked on one that dates back to 1991, as is Android, and was designed for desktop computers. The iPhone OS is fundamentally older than that being a derivative of unix->Mac OS X. Old OSes designed for one type of computer and having mobile functions layered and piggyback on them.
Symbian, however, is develop from EPOC32 which is a dedicated OS for mobile devices introduced in 1997, containing superior multi-tasking and efficient use of minimal host hardware.
It is still the best small device OS and it had touch interface in 1997. Yes, 1997. 5,5MX, REVO.
Unregistered wrote:Nokia is so full of it. Everytime someone talks is all mumbo jumbo. Then they show the presentation of the phone doing all sort of things like when they show the browser with smooth transitions. At the end its all BS. Nokia with never dethrown the safari browser.
"Steps removed and sequence shortened. Network speeds may vary"
That was the wording that Apple were forced to add to the end of their iPhone commercials in the UK because their on screen demonstration was found to be faked and they got into trouble with the Advertising standards watchdog.
So, Nokia will need a whole lot more BS if they are going to catch up with iPhone BS.
hi all,
im pretty excited about the n97 - am hoping it will be my return to symbian from wm 😉 was looking at the 5800 initially, but then heard about 97 with keyboard. ive had a quick look at the xperia and the kbrd seems pretty good - so was hoping the 97s would be too - but noticed that the keys dont seem so proud on the 97 ? .........and the 5800 does have built in screen kbrd :con?
Ever since the N97 was announced, I was excited. As a N95 user I was keen to see the new but relatively small changes (larger screen, QWERTY keyboard, 5th edition). It's a nice phone and I'm sure it has some new functionality to offer for a N95 user - but is it enough?
I like others have doubts about whether Nokia really listens to feedback from its consumers. Does the browser really give me a rich browsing experience like I saw in the promo? From what I've seen on the 5800, the experience is extrememly poor, and far from anything that I would consider a 'Multimedia Computer'.
What about file formats? Wouldnt an internet device play all file formats? (especially video)? Apart from Samsung, Nokia has failed to incorporate support for standards such as Divx. (I know third party applications are available).
I guess where I'm coming from with this is that I think we are at a stage now where Nokia has the resources and experience produce a device that can do it all well, but just wont do it because they either don't know how, or are just ignorant.
I'm not sure if the N97 is enough of a device to really give them the edge they need over what competitors and doing now, and in the future. The fact that it has taken this long to come to market can only hinder its succces.