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Review: Nokia N97 and N97 mini - part 1

38 replies · 10,073 views · Started 08 November 2009

We've never reviewed the Nokia N97 fully here on AAS, mainly because we knew the v20 upgrade was on its way. And now that it's here, with the N97 distinctly nicer to use, along comes a sister device, the N97 mini that impresses by improving in almost every are, making the original N97 still hard to fully recommend. In a multi-part review series, I look at both N97 variants in detail. In part 1, I look at form factor, design, build quality and performance. Parts 2 and 3 will cover applications/usability and camera/multimedia.

Read on in the full article.

Provided you can live without the N97's larger screen, 32GB mass memory, larger battery and FM transmitter

This statement alone makes me glad I have the original N97 😊

Why would anybody give up all of those features for a smaller footprint? Especially a techie user who wants function, not form.

Wow just in time, I am about to buy either N97 or N97 Mini 10 days from now so this review will surely help me decide. c", I hope the Part 2 and Part 3 comes out soon.

yes, the C drive and memory is a stupid nokia problem, and it's exist not only in n97 but in all other phone as well (such as e71, e72, e52, n86.....). That's the problem I have now with E61i. If I put the sms/mms/email on the c drive, I run out space very quick, if I put in the memory card, I would lose the hot swap ability.... da*n you nokia....

But, I think nokia will be very smart too. if N97mini sales were high, and current generation of N97 were sold out, they will sudently release N97i, which is a N97 with more RAM, more processor speed, and more C drive.

PS:... I really hope nokia use a 2 TranFlash/microSDHC card in the future, so I can manage my files better (e.g. photo and document on card 1 and music & movies on card 2. therefore, if I swap card 2, the card 1 for document etc will still there...)

@nokia_fans,

To dream is a good thing but what you hope for is another phone. There is very little chance that Nokia will put these type of features and components into an old phone. There has been much discussion as to whether Nokia shipped millions of phones verses whether or not they sold millions of phones. These are two very different things. Not to mention the returns. If we can say that Nokia shipped 2 million phones, while selling 1 million and then getting 500 thousand in returns, it would be safe to say that the N97 was not a huge success on a global level anyway. While I do not have the actual numbers, I would say that my supposition is closer to the truth. Nokia will not release the return figures which in itself can be an indicator of the true success of the N97.

While the N97 Mini has less, in the end it might be more. At least you know you are not (hopefully) getting a defective (yes, the N97 was defective out of the box) device that you pay a premium price for.

Hi steve,

could you be nice and make another article (after the part 3) to compare the speed of N97/N97mini to the E52/E55/E72... compare the 434MHz CPU to the 600MHz CPU?

thanks.

Nice review.

I guess i will go with the mini edition. Not for the pocket size (Communicator user) and not for the price but for the 320MB in the C drive and the metal battery cover.

Good to hear that the N97 mini Keyboard is better than the N97 but how can you compare to E90? Cant compare it to 6 rows keys,i know,but what about the buttons physically? Feedback? and Size?

And can i suggest? since you will cover the multimedia side in the next parts of the review can you have an illustrated look at the Photos,Video & Music organizing features? Especially the use of albums & Tags and the synchronization with Photos client in the PC...i noticed that the most frustrating thing for people use these phones is the images organizing options,i noticed in the forums everywhere (allaboutsymbian included).

Very helpful review! I'm looking forward to reading the next iterations. Personally I'm planning on getting the mini, because I need something that's relatively happy traveling in a pocket since I'm mobile throughout the day, but I'm still weighing options and your review gave much more insight than most out there. Thank you!

Unregistered wrote:Wow just in time, I am about to buy either N97 or N97 Mini 10 days from now so this review will surely help me decide. c", I hope the Part 2 and Part 3 comes out soon.

May I suggest, as an N97 owner myself, that you buy neither of the two handsets? Unless you plan on being constantly annoyed.

Despite the improvements in the N97 firmware and N97 mini HW, I just can't recommend either at the end. Nokia really shot themselves in the foot at the moment with this release:

- In the US, it's hard to convince ANYONE, especially my average friend or even my tech geek friends, to pick this over the iPhone 3GS, any Android phones, or even one of the HTC WinMo phones. All these phones provide enough working space (RAM, Flash ROM) with a really poweful CPU, and often with GPU. I would never tell my less-technical friends to go thru the pain of one of HelloOx, remember to install apps on mass memory, or search in more obscure places for useful apps since Ovi is still in horrible shape. And most of my friends also carry a dedicated GPS or have GPS built-in their car, which makes the GPS argument even less compelling. Few ppl really value the GPS once out of their car, and most ppl are not really spend alot of time in their car to justify GPS. And I rarely see ppl use the GPS features for walking/social networking/etc. Most ppl would rather pay the few extra dollars, to have peace of mind that their purchases will just work. Most readers at this point might point me to the N900 as well, but let's keep in mind that it only works at it's fullest on T-mobile, the WORST provider in the US. Even worse than an overloaded AT&T 3G network because of rabbid iPhone users.

- In any non-US region, why would any power user pick this over the Omnia HD, or for the more casual user, maybe they should probably pick the Satio. The Omnia HD is especially an example of Symbian done well. And to make things even more obscure for Nokia, it seems like their E-series is doing much better, and the N95-8GB seems to be the king of the hill still after all these years. The E-series and N95-2 all use legacy technology, but the lesson learned there is that a better overall user experience trumps functionality any day. And there are so many better phones worldwide, that makes the N97 truly out of touch with reality. So many better phones that ppl could choose from, that it sometimes makes me wish I wasn't living in the US 😉 And on top of that, I feel that iPhone wins on many accounts overseas as well, even if it has limited distribution.

Capacitive touch screens MIGHT be less accurate, according to AAS, but the responsiveness more than makes up for it, and resistive screen accuracy is only marginally better, not significantly better. At least when I played with my friends iPhones. I bought the N97 to see if not paying the iPhone tax was worth some of the deficiencies in the phone while gaining something possibly useful as an upgrade (keyboard, bigger screen, built-in massive storage). But at the end, it seems like Nokia's competitors quickly overcomes it's own deficiencies in more meaningful ways (be it a better app channel, better touch screen drivers, hw upgrade, etc., better CPU and Ram). I'm near ready to either jump ship to Verizon, or go get an E71. It seems like even the N86 is more popular and has better reviews, which makes me start wondering which device is really the flagship at the moment. Lousy product management on the N-series, obviously.

I've had the N97 phone for about a month now, and although I manage to overcome any difficulty with the phone and make it reasonably useful, the fact that I had to actually make conscious decisions and do extensive research is too much for even some wiser power users who understands that their time is often more valuable than the time spent tinkering with a semi-broken product. That, on top of the HW limits imposed, makes the bigger screen, built-in keyboard, FM transmitter, and more flash storage even more useless. Kinda a sad, considering I spent most of the year researching on a phone to replace my N95-3, only to end up with this conclusion.

And please, for all the obnoxious power users who's going to start tearing this post apart, keep this in mind - we are actually the minority here. A really TINY minority, compared to the customers that most of the manufacturers are trying to capture. And for all your criticisms about the iPhone, there's one thing that's absolutely undeniable about it now - the iPhone managed to capture the casual customer's attention and actually convince them to pay for hi-end hardware and more expensive services. and now with the iPhone 3GS with an A8-Cortext processor with more RAM, it's only a matter of time before the rather ridiculous argument about no multi-tasking (which is very untrue as well) will disappear, while other UI deficiencies can clearly be mitigated. There are some real reasons that the N97 is a failure, and not because of the slow CPU and crappy RAM. Once again, execution on product management here was squarely an F.

30dirtybirds wrote:This statement alone makes me glad I have the original N97 😊

Why would anybody give up all of those features for a smaller footprint? Especially a techie user who wants function, not form.

In 10 months I've managed to use less than 2GB of the 8GB memory card in my 5800. The 5800 screen is perfectly good and the battery life of over 2 day is also more than plenty. The only thing I miss is a physical keyboard.

Why would I want to carry a lump of N97 bloat phone around for features I don't need?

As the mini is squarely at social networking users, it's not likely to be a techie users phone. The techies would go for N900 type devices.

And Arthur above is a another that believes everybody has the same requirements as him.

@unregistered,

Quote: "Despite the improvements in the N97 firmware and N97 mini HW, I just can't recommend either at the end.".....

Best post of this thread. Summed up perfectly. I had an N97 and was lucky enough to be able to return it. In all seriousness, Nokia has to know that this phone is a dog. Hopefully the N900 will be better but it will appeal mainly to the geek market and not mainstream. Nokia is like a husband in an abusive marriage who promises that they will be better next time, but goes back to the same old behavior. Eventually the abused partner leaves.

I would love to see the comparison between Nokia users that leave to go to SE, or the iPhone verses iPhone users or others that actually come to Nokia.

Unregistered wrote: it's only a matter of time before the rather ridiculous argument about no multi-tasking (which is very untrue as well) will disappear, while other UI deficiencies can clearly be mitigated. There are some real reasons that the N97 is a failure, and not because of the slow CPU and crappy RAM. Once again, execution on product management here was squarely an F.

The multi-tasking argument is not untrue, but it is rather ridiculous. It is true that Symbian multi-task better (Android shuts down stuff without warning if memory gets low, Apple only lets you do what Jobs says you can do). The reason the argument is ridiculous is because in real life the limited multi-tasking on the iPhone doesn't really affect the practical use of 99% of users.

The reason that I prefer Nokia over all those superficially better user interfaces is because it does everything I want in the form factor I want. But with better signal in fringe reception, better call quality audio and for less money. The fundamentals that are essential to me.

And for my needs, the difference in sensistivity between capacitive and resistive is infinite when I am gloved (as I am most of the time).

The iPhone doesn't even get to the races for me. The same goes for many. If you take the UI away from the iPhone, you are left with an ordinary device. The Omnia and Satio are completely useless to me. The Nokias are the best one handed phones on the market for me.

I'm talking about my requirements, not yours.

Unregistered wrote:The multi-tasking argument is not untrue, but it is rather ridiculous. It is true that Symbian multi-task better (Android shuts down stuff without warning if memory gets low, Apple only lets you do what Jobs says you can do). The reason the argument is ridiculous is because in real life the limited multi-tasking on the iPhone doesn't really affect the practical use of 99% of users.

The reason that I prefer Nokia over all those superficially better user interfaces is because it does everything I want in the form factor I want. But with better signal in fringe reception, better call quality audio and for less money. The fundamentals that are essential to me.

And for my needs, the difference in sensistivity between capacitive and resistive is infinite when I am gloved (as I am most of the time).

The iPhone doesn't even get to the races for me. The same goes for many. If you take the UI away from the iPhone, you are left with an ordinary device. The Omnia and Satio are completely useless to me. The Nokias are the best one handed phones on the market for me.

I'm talking about my requirements, not yours.

I believe you confuse CAN vs ALLOWED TO:
http://www.mexlinux.com/how-to-turn-you-iphone-into-a-multitasking-device/

The link above teaches you how to enable it, but the feature is most certainly there. W/o getting into some philosiphical debate as to why Apple turned it off, let's not forget there's a UNIX kernel inside iPhone OS, so please don't misinform the forum here with your claim it can't. iPhone also leaves iTunes and Safari in the background. They just don't allow THIRD PARTY APPS to multitask. Probably because they saw the same problems that we are seeing now with the N97. Which makes sense since the N97 HW design seemed to be designed to match the original iPhone and the iPhone 2G. But at least Apple had the decency to move forward and predict the needs of the next generation of iPhone customers. Also, having multitasking is almost worthless on the N97 as much of the RAM is eaten just by the OS. What good is it if I start surfing on the web, only to have my music player shutdown because I went to Flickr??!!

Also, your sale, and the sale of the few that looked at the N97 (including myself), don't drive the market all that significantly, especially if your sale does not cover the R&D and manufacturing cost for the N97 product line. So whether or not it met your needs, not to be offensive, means VERY LITTLE in the overall scheme of things. BUT, what I do need from Nokia after I bought my N97 is better confidence that Nokia will cover any deficiencies with the phone going forward, but I can't quite see that happening since most of the deficiencies are HW related, and it's unlikely that Nokia will make a recall just to put more RAM into my phone, as it's not what the warranty will cover. So probably your sense of fundamentals differ from mine, or quite frankly the rest of the cellphone industry. But your fundamentals does seem to match Nokia, which I fear, is the reason their Nokia has lost 20% of their sales YoY. Which is why Nokia will continue to produce subpar "hi-end" products and continue to treat the customers that purchase them like a research testbed instead of hi class customers. And please don't tell me that producing a "V2.0" firmware is proof that they're treating us like hi-class customers....

@ North American commentators:

1. 100% of my friends didnt hear about Android.
2. The usual response for my Apple questions when i ask my friends are: Overpriced limited products...My 5 years old Nokia had a better camera...What? I cant send a ringtone?.....What is iTunes?..........................etc....
3. People think HTC Windows mobile are great phones but its too complicated...and why should i use 2 hands to do the simplest things?
4. The best 2 things out of NA are: We can buy unlocked phones...we dont have media hype for specific phone.
5. Am not talking am careless people...am talking about techie....

am talking from ME....

Should we write this in each S60 article?...like iPhone fan write the same sentence each day in 1000 forum to tell me his iPhone have an application for everything?...even he cant use 2 applications in the same time.

Ammar_Dento wrote:@ North American commentators:

1. 100% of my friends didnt hear about Android.
2. The usual response for my Apple questions when i ask my friends are: Overpriced limited products...My 5 years old Nokia had a better camera...What? I cant send a ringtone?.....What is iTunes?..........................etc....
3. People think HTC Windows mobile are great phones but its too complicated...and why should i use 2 hands to do the simplest things?
4. The best 2 things out of NA are: We can buy unlocked phones...we dont have media hype for specific phone.
5. Am not talking am careless people...am talking about techie....

am talking from ME....

Should we write this in each S60 article?...like iPhone fan write the same sentence each day in 1000 forum to tell me his iPhone have an application for everything?...even he cant use 2 applications in the same time.

I guess you don't live in the US? I see iPhones EVERYWHERE. In NYC, in subways, in airports. And see ppl who carry G1 in the subways. I guess you don't watch AAPL quarterly reports or NPD stats. Can you honestly tell me that Nokia sells better than HTC in the US? We're not talking about a smartphone vs a non-smartphone. We're talking about a Nokia smartphone vs a non-Nokia smartphone. And I'm a software dev as well with lot's of developer friends, who agrees on one thing - Nokia doesn't provide a good market for devs, at least in the US. I'm not the Apple fanboy, as I DON'T own an iPhone, but I AM giving my N97 NAM a chance, but I just make note of what I actually see, and the reactions my friends get between my phone and others. As much as I WANT Symbian succeed, you really can't just give a blind eye to the current market trends. And as I said, I think N95-2/4 still seems to be king of the hill in many ppl's mind, but you'll have to admit that Nokia basically blew it by not capitalizing on their position. So give me a break about bringing fanboyism in here. It makes YOU look more like the fanboy right now.

I just wish they'd done the same with RAM, though perhaps this would have cannibalised sales of the N97 since power users would have switched in an instant.

That is exactly what is wrong with Nokia. They churn out phone after phone but none with a complete feature set. Even though some features costs nothing extra to implement and had been present in previous models. My current peeve is why the f**k did they reduce the functionality of the E71 keyboard in comparison to the E61. What did Nokia achieve in doing that? Saved the costs of the ink required to print the extra characters onto the keys? WTF were they thinking?

16 responses, most of which are about the iPhone. What a huge surprise...

@dopey (no comment),

You might want to start with the author of this article. He mentioned the iPhone first. So place the blame there. Second, how many times do you see Apple throwing darts at Nokia or Symbian? Sure there are the typical Appleistas that are no different than the Nokia zealots but at the corporate level the only one Apple targets is Microsoft. As far as Apple is concerned neither Nokia, LG, Samsung, SE, Motorola, etc... exist. Apple will continue to sell their phones, gain a bit of market share here and there, and drive on. You might want to do the same. Just a thought.

Unregistered wrote:I believe you confuse CAN vs ALLOWED TO:
http://www.mexlinux.com/how-to-turn-you-iphone-into-a-multitasking-device/

The link above teaches you how to enable it, but the feature is most certainly there. W/o getting into some philosiphical debate as to why Apple turned it off, let's not forget there's a UNIX kernel inside iPhone OS, so please don't misinform the forum here with your claim it can't.....

That is just so pedantic. I wasn't talking about Unix, I was talking about the iPhone implentation, and there is no misleading at all. The reason Apple don't allow the multi-tasking is well known because they have come out and explained it. Put very simply, the fundamental OS and fundamental apps that do run in the background need a ceratin amount of resource, and what is left is a constant known quantity so an App developer doesn't have to deal with a variable in something so essential as the available resource. I can see the logic, but I am not sure it is necessary.

Dopey wrote:16 responses, most of which are about the iPhone. What a huge surprise...

On a forums discussing smartphones? Who'd have thought it.

FFS.

The N97 in it's current form is the best phone available for me today. I had my issues (and rants) in the past but now with firmware v20 I took a fresh look.

My personal "must haves":

  • Browser with Flash and Silverlight support (eventually a choice of browsers as currently there is not one mobile browser doing every single site well.)
  • Large high resolution screen
  • Good camera (at least in the 5 MP range) as the phone is my main camera
  • Good call quality and reception
  • integrated VoIP telephony (with 3G support)
  • Querty keyboard not covering precious screen real estate while chatting
  • Instant messaging running in the background
  • Push email with HTML and viewing ability for all major file formats
  • Full status information on home screen (weather, mail, calendar etc.)
  • One handed operation in portrait mode
  • Emulators as I love retro gaming
  • Bluetooth joystick for retro gaming
  • PC synchronisation that works well with MS Outlook
  • FM Radio with good reception quality (and ideally with RDS)
  • Must work without Google apps as I am avoiding them (just my personal paranoia 😉)

What other phone should I choose?

Unregistered wrote:I guess you don't live in the US? I see iPhones EVERYWHERE. In NYC, in subways, in airports. And see ppl who carry G1 in the subways. I guess you don't watch AAPL quarterly reports or NPD stats. Can you honestly tell me that Nokia sells better than HTC in the US? We're not talking about a smartphone vs a non-smartphone. We're talking about a Nokia smartphone vs a non-Nokia smartphone. And I'm a software dev as well with lot's of developer friends, who agrees on one thing - Nokia doesn't provide a good market for devs, at least in the US. I'm not the Apple fanboy, as I DON'T own an iPhone, but I AM giving my N97 NAM a chance, but I just make note of what I actually see, and the reactions my friends get between my phone and others. As much as I WANT Symbian succeed, you really can't just give a blind eye to the current market trends. And as I said, I think N95-2/4 still seems to be king of the hill in many ppl's mind, but you'll have to admit that Nokia basically blew it by not capitalizing on their position. So give me a break about bringing fanboyism in here. It makes YOU look more like the fanboy right now.

No i dont live in the US. I am talking from Middle East. And you know why people use iPhones everywhere,Vendor to subsidize the cost+Market hype to apologize any fault+Flashy UI and i cant say simple UI because for some people its limitation.

Android is still very young. the large proportion of people didnt hear about it yet.

I cant say anything about the developers because am not one of them.

Am not a fanboy like you said but i hate people think that since they pay the money the manufacture should ask them about there dream phone and make it. If you talk only about Nokia then they sell very well in China so the TS is resistive,they are finnish too..forget the capacitive screen only in selected devices. You cant blame them,they can even remove the english language support. did i mention they remove the arabic language support from N900?.

N95,N82,E90 was the best.....but as a 7 years Nokia user i know they had problems before and they resolve it...i faced the same problem when i want to upgrade from 6600 and didnt find any worthy device till 3250 comes.

I see bringing the dreaded phone by steve jobs into this conversation, even if I'm not 100% supporting it, is strictly forbidden here. As I type this from my N97 let me give some of personal points:
- the only phone I have ever owned is a Nokia in the last 5 years (6630, n70, N95, N97)
-I've managed to managed to convince 6 different people (techie, non-techie) in the past 2 years to buy n95-3/4
-I never had multitasking issues in the past 5 years until the n97
-my friends depend on me to tell them what's WRONG with a phone b4 making a final call on buying it

That last statement will probably sum up about 80% of the whole markets buying decision at the end. I would not be able to convince anyone to purchase an N97 w/o lying about the flaws/bugs on this phone. if i was not on at&t, this phone would NOT convince me nor anyone to switch.
for you self-proclaimed tech geeks not in the us, seriously, why would you ever forgo the N900 or omnia hd for this?!?! they cost the same!!!!
for the more casual techie, if you are seriously going to plunk down serious cash for this (and don't tell me about free or whatever, I used to live in the UK, I know what 'free' really costs from a 3,orange, vodafone, tmo plan), wouldn't you want a more dependable phone up front?
I never had probs with speakerphone, gps on a gps phone, or ram until n97. I've never been mislead about a nokia phone until now (remember the transition videos). I didn't have to worry about my lens until the N97. I lost my GPU. is this the price I have to pay to get a new keyboard, an underutilized screen, and a faster processor?
so let me try to sum up the defenders and naysayers here:

- you would rather buy a multimedia phone with a smaller screen with less codec support than the omnia hd
- you would rather buy a multitasking phone with less ram than the omnia, n900, jesus phone, and no virtual memory support
-you'd rather pay for the subpar browser. it can't finish the acid test, eats so much ram that it will shut apps in the bg, and has a clunky UI. and proof that flash is not very useful on a nokia phone, look no further than opera 10 beta.everyone is raving about this browser, despite lack of flash.
-you'd rather let nokia devs get away with putting out truly buggy devices and then confuse them even more when a ton of ppl complain about stupid bugs (which always happen in the best of dev) vs true incompetence
If I didn't pay over $200 less than nokia's retail, I'd be just as angry as most ppl who really hate the n97.
But I can tell everyone wants to be the apologist here. go ahead and be an island unto yourselves.

I've also posted in the the Insight 93 thread (and many times before) re the N97 as a "happy owner" well actually as someone who is now shackled to a device for another 12+months that I actively disalike.

First off Steve good comparison article I really look forward to the second and third parts and yes I think we can all see the obvious conclusion that the Mini is way better and the device that the N97 should have been, and may have been if it hadn't been announced so far ahead of release. I agree with the poster who said the N97 was clearly designed to target the iPhone 2G and by the time the 3GS came looked threadbare.

Secondly I fully agree with you that it's a shame they've continued to under spec RAM on the Mini and agree that the likely reason is that it would make the N97 look totally ridiculous (this is why they will drop/ do a II vers of N97 I think) . The whole hardware platform implementation by Nokia is pretty incomprehensible to me. A lot of times you refer to power users and multi tasking but the simple fact is that the platform cannot run active homescreen widgets (THE major product benefit sold by Nokia) and another couple of apps without flaking out therefore it cannot work as billed.

Can you force it to function for you by asking less of it - yes of course but it isn't what I bought into or what was billed. The UI experiance is poor and now becasuse of the crippled platform you don't even get the benefit of bells and whistles. So you end up having to ask less of it than the iPhone for example AND have a worse user experience (it can't even game as well)

With this I also have to put my dismal experience of Nokia care - phone's been back twice without them fixing camera and GPS properly and this is after having to phone all around Nokia UK and having to visit Regent Street flagship store twice and then having to take it to Carphone Warehouse on their recommendation. I have wasted a huge ammount of time trying to fix a phone which in it's early firmware state couldn't even take a phone call without crashing. Owing to repair times I haven't had the use of it for 30% of the time I've owned it.

In light of all this I will be actively disuading all my friends from buying Nokia products (particulalry as their UI is also very unintuitive to most and they'd never cope having to load apps and music as the devices stand) as they're not fit for broad consumption don't work as advertised and are not constructed well.

Unregistered wrote::

- you would rather buy a multimedia phone with a smaller screen with less codec support than the omnia hd
- you would rather buy a multitasking phone with less ram than the omnia, n900, jesus phone, and no virtual memory support
.

Would I be prepared to carry around a lump as big at the Omnia, N900 or PIEphone?

No. So what other phone does everything the N97 mini does in as compact a form factor?

And I will be paying less than 75% of the current price.

Unregistered wrote:Would I be prepared to carry around a lump as big at the Omnia, N900 or PIEphone?

No. So what other phone does everything the N97 mini does in as compact a form factor?

And I will be paying less than 75% of the current price.

Then you're probably the WORST of all customers, as you will do absolutely nothing to help provide Nokia any useful feedback, and only wait until the device is already out of style, and tell Nokia that you're only willing to pay really little for functionality. And probably unrealistic/oblivious, because if you truly got it for 75% or any retail, either you bought it second hand, or got it at a firesale, which means you didn't really vote with your wallet. otherwise, getting it for cheap first hand usually means a subsidy, which translates to NOT REALLY ALL THAT CHEAP as you forgo opportunity cost. So for all the good ppl on this forum, thanks alot turd.

as a E71 owner i went to the store and thought about getting the N97 mini and btw i find nothing mini about it! The size is decent but it's not much smaller than the N97 (i would prefer it a bit thinner). I did not appreciate the news that they had dropped FM transmitter on the mini! that was one of the selling points for replacing my E71. Then i tried out the QWERTY keyboard and I must say NO WAY!!! The keyboard is god awful on the N97/N97 mini and not even close to my E71. The buttons are just too flat, too hard to press, there's too much wasted space, it should be 4 rows of keys and put the damn space button in the middle, who the hell puts the space button to the side??? Name one cell phone maker that does that!

I had to say no thanks.

Put FM transmitter into the mini
add the E75 keyboard on it
increase internal memory to its big brother level
upgrade the god damn old looking S60 touch UI (there was a nice UI in San Francisco i saw the other day on youtube btw.)

and you may be heading in the right direction Nokia. Otherwise its an awfully designed phone and Nokia dropped the ball again in my book.