I would hold off buying any net top with single core atom especially coupled with only 1GB RAM (max). Dual core atoms are around the corner.
I personally think something like this is so much more powerful and practical.
http://www.trustedreviews.com/laptops/review/2009/11/25/Acer-Aspire-Timeline-1810TZ---11-6in-Intel-CULV-Laptop/p1
Unregistered wrote:Why all the fuss about Steve and his reporting? Everyone knows he is in the bag for Nokia. No problem with this. My only question is: Is he getting paid to always talk up Nokia? If so then this becomes the real issue. For the most part I do not really give much of what he says a lot of credibility, however he is not always wrong as well. Pick and choose what you want to believe and then do your own research to find the answers.
As was already said, this accusation has been made numerous times, and Steve has always (politely) answered that this is not the case. However, it appears that some people are never satisfied, and nit-pick for the sake of it...
Unregistered wrote:Why exactly? What rule are you invoking here? Brendan's personal preference law?
Maybe english is not your first language so you have problems understanding what 'all about symbian' means. Calling a website 'all about symbian' gives the strong impression that the website is going to be all about the symbian ecosystem. Not a place where there are Windows 7 laptop reviews!
The only reason that laptop review is on here is because it was a Nokia. There have been loads of laptops, over the years, that fit a mobile / connected world and are a fitting partner to a smartphone but low and behold the first one reviewed on here is a Nokia.
Like I said I read the review with interest but this site Nokia centric and this is just another example of that. I don't mind it's their site not mine! Personally I would like the site to be more than just Nokia as I don't find them that interesting at the moment.
"but I want to add something more than just - Nokia store closing - horror of horrors!"
Although your earlier stories did amount to little more than "Nokia store opening - joy of joys!"
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/item/6691_Nokia_flagship_store_in_London.php
Am I wrong , when I think ALL about symbian necessarily means : LOTS about symbian ?
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brendan wrote:Maybe english is not your first language so you have problems understanding what 'all about symbian' means. Calling a website 'all about symbian' gives the strong impression that the website is going to be all about the symbian ecosystem. Not a place where there are Windows 7 laptop reviews!The only reason that laptop review is on here is because it was a Nokia. There have been loads of laptops, over the years, that fit a mobile / connected world and are a fitting partner to a smartphone but low and behold the first one reviewed on here is a Nokia.
Like I said I read the review with interest but this site Nokia centric and this is just another example of that. I don't mind it's their site not mine! Personally I would like the site to be more than just Nokia as I don't find them that interesting at the moment.
I understand all of that, except for one thing. What exactly is the problem if a small proportion of the content of the site doesn't match the URL and a Nokia netbook gets reviewed? Are you suffering a financial loss? Does it cause you pain and suffering? Does it invoke and unpleasant emotional reaction? Does it cause your bowels to suddenly and explosively evacuate?
I can't believe people haven't got more important things to worry about apart from what OS the Nokia device runs and what 3 or 4 blokes want to put on their website.
Some people seem to be indulging in extreme pendantry as a hobby. It says "ALL" in the URL. Oh dear. Call the OCD police.
Maybe english is not your first language so you have problems understanding what 'all about symbian' means. Calling a website 'all about symbian' gives the strong impression that the website is going to be all about the symbian ecosystem. Not a place where there are Windows 7 laptop reviews!The only reason that laptop review is on here is because it was a Nokia. There have been loads of laptops, over the years, that fit a mobile / connected world and are a fitting partner to a smartphone but low and behold the first one reviewed on here is a Nokia.
Like I said I read the review with interest but this site Nokia centric and this is just another example of that. I don't mind it's their site not mine! Personally I would like the site to be more than just Nokia as I don't find them that interesting at the moment.
Now I can relate to that. As well as the fact that Brendan was willing to log in and put his name on his comment.
It just seems to me that Nokia are given light mention/rebuke on this site when it comes to their mistakes and omissions while other manufacturers seem to get rather more serious treatment in the same regard.
It is a GREAT idea to review devices directly related to smartphones which are non-symbian, but it does look odd to start the diversification in each case only when Nokia begin to make the product in question.
buster wrote:As was already said, this accusation has been made numerous times, and Steve has always (politely) answered that this is not the case. However, it appears that some people are never satisfied, and nit-pick for the sake of it...
While I disagree that calling for a level playing field regarding what information outside of symbian goes online is nit-picking; I think there is a place for differing opinions on this site.
Again, at least buster put his name on it and said what he thought! Kudos for him whether I agree or not. Who am I to knock him for his opinion?
Abushaheed wrote:
Again, at least buster put his name on it and said what he thought! Kudos for him whether I agree or not. Who am I to knock him for his opinion?
When a poster resorts to criticising people for posting under 'unregistered' then I know that they have no valid argument left. It makes no difference if somebody makes up an idiotic pseudonym, or not. You are clutching straws if you think that using a name makes you any less anonymous.
You still don't know me from Adam if I use a name so I am still anonymous, as are you. The 'put your name to your words' is as limp and lame an excuse as I've ever heard.
I've put a name to this post. Try saying it out loud.
Unregistered wrote:I understand all of that, except for one thing. What exactly is the problem if a small proportion of the content of the site doesn't match the URL and a Nokia netbook gets reviewed? Are you suffering a financial loss? Does it cause you pain and suffering? Does it invoke and unpleasant emotional reaction? Does it cause your bowels to suddenly and explosively evacuate?I can't believe people haven't got more important things to worry about apart from what OS the Nokia device runs and what 3 or 4 blokes want to put on their website.
Do you not have more important things to concern yourself than about than the fact that I am have taken the time to post about the content of a website? It's a pointless argument. What I choose to be concerned about is my business and what you concern yourself with is your business!
It does annoy me that on site that the authors say repeatedly isn't Nokia centric appears to criticise non Nokia products more heavily that seems justified and be more forgiving of Nokia than seems fair and imparial. For a site that isn't Nokia centric is it a bit off that the first laptop review they have on here is a Nokia seeing as other companies have been making laptop's for years!! But, wait, this laptop has something to with the Ovi store but that's Nokia!
I said they can review whatever they like and I am generally interested in what Steve, Rafe and Ewan have to say but to be it still seems to be a Nokia centric site and this review only backs that up. I have been following this site for years and even though they will criticise Nokia it's way less than they praise them. For example, N-Gage, the amount of praise and support given to this disaster massively outweighed the moans about the failure Nokia made of it.
Cox Ukka wrote:When a poster resorts to criticising people for posting under 'unregistered' then I know that they have no valid argument left. It makes no difference if somebody makes up an idiotic pseudonym, or not. You are clutching straws if you think that using a name makes you any less anonymous.You still don't know me from Adam if I use a name so I am still anonymous, as are you. The 'put your name to your words' is as limp and lame an excuse as I've ever heard.
I've put a name to this post. Try saying it out loud.
I think the point is about registered users.
When people make up childish names for themselves then it's clear they have nothing valid to say at all.
brendan wrote: What I choose to be concerned about is my business.
So you post stuff on a public forum but it's nobody elses business? LOL!
Talk about an own goal.
brendan wrote:I think the point is about registered users.
When people make up childish names for themselves then it's clear they have nothing valid to say at all.
That just doesn't work out in logic at all. That's awful prejudice of the highest order.
And it matters not if a person is registered here, I still don't know them from Adam, they are still anonymous. Might as well be Barack Obama for all I know.
Unregistered = Registered.
You mispelled "aluminium"! THREE times!
This thread is now officially hilarious
Thanks! I really enjoy reading other e.g. Nokia related news and reviews in additon to Symbian stuff as well.
Was your Booklet 3G equipped with what version of Windows 7?
First of all, it makes an enormous difference if the comment is unregistered or not because it gives you a frame of reference with who you are talking to while going back and forth with comments. They should turn off allowing unregistered to have the ability to comment.
Second, are these people smoking crack? How many times has steve covered a windows mobile device like the touch pro or similar? There was no complaining about that not being symbian related. Now suddenly a nokia laptop causes these reactions? Sounds like these people are biased against nokia since they didn't have a problem with the other non-symbian coverage. Talk about calling the kettle black. Look in the mirror.
davidmaxwaterma wrote:You mispelled "aluminium"! THREE times!
Errr. Opps. I think the spell checker had an outbreak of American variant spelling...
Rewes wrote:Thanks! I really enjoy reading other e.g. Nokia related news and reviews in additon to Symbian stuff as well.Was your Booklet 3G equipped with what version of Windows 7?
Windows 7 Home Premium - mentioned in the next part. Not going to go into detail on OS. In Europe you seem to have a choice, in the US its Starter Edition only.
brendan wrote:The only reason that laptop review is on here is because it was a Nokia. There have been loads of laptops, over the years, that fit a mobile / connected world and are a fitting partner to a smartphone but low and behold the first one reviewed on here is a Nokia.Like I said I read the review with interest but this site Nokia centric and this is just another example of that. I don't mind it's their site not mine! Personally I would like the site to be more than just Nokia as I don't find them that interesting at the moment.
Not so much directed at just this comment, but the general why cover this comments...
I did answer this above, but I'll just point out that as editor of the site it is ultimately my decision as to what get covered. People can define what they think the site should cover all they like, but... I guess its fair to say I have the final say (as the above commenter rightly says).
Incidentally when I first came up with the name (in hindsight I'd use something different I think) the intention was to imply comprehensive Symbian coverage, but was not meant to imply a rigid Symbian only content policy...
With regards to Nokia / Symbian bias - this site is focused on Symbian (which at the moment is dominated by Nokia activity). We strive to be as objective as possible and regular readers will know the sort of line we take... But as with anything you read online it should be appreciated and evaluated in its context.
Yes the Booklet got covered because its Nokia and I think there's cross over interest. The same applies to PC only Ovi services. Can we cover everything - no. And if comms departments / PR companies make it easy (offer a loan unit) then its far more likely we'll cover other stuff...
I'm interested to hear what you would like us to cover outside of Nokia? We're covering the non-Nokia Symbian stuff as much as possible, but i8910 and Satio aside there's not been a great of activity (and to an extent there has to be a commercial justification for doing so - the Booklet review has bought in more new visitors than the typical handset one does - no surprise really). Maybe you mean other mobile stuff - what do you think would be the topics to cover?
Thank you for this nice review, looking forward to second part. I also hope you will ignore all those nasty comments related to changing name of this great site, which is y favourite among all symbian related sites. Iam also a Nokia fan, so I like that you review some interesting accessory from this(and others) company.
This Nokia netbook is really a nice piece of hardware, my gf likes it wery much, I would like to surprise her with it when it will be on market for couple of months and price will fall to something more reasonable 😊
Maybe you should mention that this isn't out in the UK (You have UK plug and UK keyboard but I don't know how you got hold of it) so having a buy link in the top is rather useless. Buy link leads to uk nokia store which gives no mention of the booklet at all.
I really wanted one of these for christmas but I was disappointed to see Nokia release it everywhere in time except for here. The stores here are saying they won't get it in until "early next year". I'd order one from the USA but using an American keyboard with UK locale means I have no backslash - something I need often because I work as a programmer.
I can't find another netbook with built in GPS, Bluetooth, Camera and 3G that doesn't look ugly as sin, so I will just have to wait until nokia bother to get around to this little country.
Samsung makes netbooks, too. Just saying, Mr. "I'm not Nokia fanboy". LOL
Samsung don't make a netbook that has GPS, Bluetooth, 3G, Wireless N and HDMI though.
Besides, http://gpsobsessed.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/samsung-n120-a.jpg they look like a "my first computer".
The RAM and disk are clearly the weak points of this booklet.
The Vaio X11, for instance, have quite similar specs, but with 2Gb RAM and SSD. And it's consider as really usable... and twice more expensive!
Does somebody try to make a test with an upgrade of both?
