Just a note that Tim Salmon and I went rather overboard on Symbian-powered phones in the latest Phones Show Chat, no. 23, here. Though in theory cross platform, we found ourselves debating Nokia N97 mini, Samsung i8910 HD, Sony Ericsson Satio and even Nokia N85, in the usual mix of review material, Q&A, tips and rants. If you want to subscribe in Podcasting, here's the feed to add.
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I usually really like your Phones Show Chat, admittedly even more than the video one since I can listen to it while commuting. But there is one thing that annoys me more and more and I would like to raise the point here - the 'iPhone section'.
If it really was an iphone section, e.g. with review of new apps, accessories or Apple news, that would be fine. However, in most of the last shows it has been used only to rant about Nokia products (n97, n900, nokia booklet 3g) in the worst fanboy-fashion. By all means, please rather get a third person on board for your discussions that is prone to the Apple world (and maybe RIM as well) than these senseless "apple is the best I can never understand how someone can use anything than an iphone and macbook"-interludes.
From a regular listener with best greetings,
Nemoi
Hmm.... yes, Kev does seem to be wandering from his original theme somewhat - I'll give him a nudge about doing more iphone apps and commentary! 8-)
Another great show Steve, from an avid regular listener.
I was surprised to hear that you had troubles with putting the new Ovi Maps on your N86. The process for me couldn't have been more different. In fact, I was totally surprised with just how smooth the process was. I've also used it in the car several times, and apart from the compass not quite working, and the slightly higher than normal power consumption, it has performed admirably.
Like all of us though I'm sure, pushing Nokia to sort out their woeful RAM decisions will be a benefit in the future. Unless, application demands continue to outstrip Nokia boffins vision of how much devices will need. Let's just sod it, and ask Nokia for 1Gb of RAM.... that should keep them going for a while 😃
+1
For the show - as twittered really enjoyed the section about the N97mini having had very similar problems myself when try ing to arrange a meeting with a few friends in a pub in W London using Ovi maps and Web and Messaging, problem was every time I fired OVI Maps up (3.01) it closed Web down losing the Web page with the address of the various pubs I was mooting on it (+no copy paste from web). Had no such probs using Google Maps obviously as a web based product it has a much lighter footprint so another example of how scrimping the hardware is making their own software uncompetitive. Which leads on to :-
+1(well lots really)
For the hardware, rather than always playing catch up why don't they try getting ahead of current SW needs for once enabliing future expansion and development (not worked out so badly for Apple). They really need to get away from the everyone renews handsets every twelve months so if we make a duff one doesn't matter mentality. If you're stuck for two years with a product which for the first half of ownership was unreliable and didn't work as promised and for second half although stable (prbably having compromised on original promised features) has fallen way behind currently available features with no hope of upgrade it isn't going to make someone keen to purchase another priduct from same maker especially not if there's another manufacturer who although expensive have a proven track record of supporting and back porting features to 1 and 2 year old devices. No names mentioned 😃
Steve great episode, but i have to disagree with you about the n97 "design constraints limiting the RAM" when you were talking about how the n97 was first conceived back in 2008 or whatever. nokia was able to suddenly double the n97 mini's C drive space when they learned that the n97 classic was having C drive issues. so they obviously were able to make that change pretty quick. so reason would stand that they certainly could have also doubled the RAM in the n97 mini just as easily as they did the C drive, but they didnt.
my point here is that i dont think the CPU/RAM issue is anything but nokia being completely stubborn.
Re: default accessories (headphones, headset, TV out, etc). At least on the Samsung it's
Menu, Settings, Phone, Accessories, highlight the accessory and then Options, 'Set as default'.
Yes, no idea why I couldn't see that Setting on the N97 - errata in PSC24 though - listen out for it 8-)
How many times is it possible to note that a Samsung device doesn't include Nokia services??? (didn't notice the same criticism of the Satio)
Nemoi wrote:I usually really like your Phones Show Chat, admittedly even more than the video one since I can listen to it while commuting. But there is one thing that annoys me more and more and I would like to raise the point here - the 'iPhone section'.If it really was an iphone section, e.g. with review of new apps, accessories or Apple news, that would be fine. However, in most of the last shows it has been used only to rant about Nokia products (n97, n900, nokia booklet 3g) in the worst fanboy-fashion. By all means, please rather get a third person on board for your discussions that is prone to the Apple world (and maybe RIM as well) than these senseless "apple is the best I can never understand how someone can use anything than an iphone and macbook"-interludes.
From a regular listener with best greetings,
Nemoi
I have to agree here. This time was worse than before (but I have an N900 so maybe I didn't notice so much before).
I don't even mind if KevWright doesn't like it, but the arguments he used were total nonsense;
- the fact that the free turn-by-turn navigation isn't available (yet?) for the N900 doesn't make it a worse device. Maybe it loses relative merit compared to S60 devices, but certainly not compared to the Iphone.
- he now knows the full web on a phone doesn't work for him. Apart from the fact that I strongly disagree; He needed to buy an N900 for that??? He never surfed to a normal web page on his Iphone? It's not _that_ different, only a bit closer to a desktop version, and with a higher resolution.
The last point really sounded like a 'classic' Iphone owner reaction, such as 'who needs 3G/mms/flash/bluetooth/mass storage mode/removable battery etc.'
Something else, I'm not really sure what the best place is to post comments on the PSC. There's this board, Youtube (for the video), then the Facebook group...
>> I'm not really sure what the best place is to post comments on the PSC. There's this board, Youtube (for the video), then the Facebook group...
Err.... there's no one place, really. Any will do. I'll read them all, and then incorporate into a future show etc.
Oh, and our Twitter accounts are also a possible avenue. And then email. And err.... carrier pigeon 8-)
+1 on kevs rant about the n900
i think its a great device(minus two things, portrait & mms - both of which are being worked on),im writing this post on it. if you check his blog he used it for about 2days and not even as his main phone,how can you form an opinion in 2 days & not as your main phone?
also internet on a 3.5inch screen??wasnt tht one of the main points of the iPhone??safari in your pocket?
however i agree with him on ovi maps,but its still usable jus need someone with you!!!it should come to the n900