Come on, people. Claiming that the Android store is better than Ovi Store is idiotic.
The Android Store's massive billing problems and fragmentation handling problems, alone makes the Android a perhaps even larger disaster the Ovi.
Ovi Store Goes from 3 star to 5 star experience, and more
Unregistered wrote:Lots more bull spouted about Symbian/S60 phones being hard to code for. Totally ignorant BS. Nothing difficult about it at all. Lazy crap developers might have trouble with it, but they would have trouble with anything.
Can you provide some apps that you've written for Symbian. It has been documented in this forum and others while developers code for Symbian, they have stated the development environment is not very friendly. You sound like some sort of sour grapes whiner. So provide an app for everyone to go download and enjoy.
Unregistered wrote:Dumbest post on the planet.How are you going to discredit an anonymous post? Go rethink that again.
Until it was surpassed by your even dumber post.
The point is that if the words aren't backed up then they mean nothing.
If you need it simplifying any more let me know and I'll find the number for a special needs teacher to help you.
malerocks wrote:As you suggested, maybe they will create one in QT. After all in S^3, it is supposed to provide a better user experience and maybe a QT app will be needed to match that.
I hope so! Last 1.5 years with Nokia was constant waiting for something better. Even Symbian^3 is already announced as intermediate step before "new and better" ^4. I am really tired of this... And very tempted with HTC Desire 😊
Unregistered wrote:Can you provide some apps that you've written for Symbian. It has been documented in this forum and others while developers code for Symbian, they have stated the development environment is not very friendly. You sound like some sort of sour grapes whiner. So provide an app for everyone to go download and enjoy.
The development environment is not very friendly - correct - especially compared to Cocoa/XCode/IPhone SDK. But it's still not difficult for someone who works with it every day. It might put off people who are, as stated, crap and lazy. Those who whine about on these forums are probably crap and lazy.
There are several apps out there and well documented on AAS that have been created by lone programmers or small teams that are excellent. If these people can do it then so can Nokia.
Despite your simplistic view, all development and coding does not end up as apps on the Ovi store (some of it might be in some of them though).
Unregistered wrote:Until it was surpassed by your even dumber post.The point is that if the words aren't backed up then they mean nothing.
If you need it simplifying any more let me know and I'll find the number for a special needs teacher to help you.
Ah the old "I know you are but what am I argument". In case you didn't know, this is a public forum where everyone has an opinion. Since when did you become the high commissioner for what is and isn't valid. You're delusional, and a bit of an ass to boot. Submit your CV to be lord of the forum and maybe Rafe or Steve will get back to you.
Unregistered wrote:The development environment is not very friendly - correct - especially compared to Cocoa/XCode/IPhone SDK. But it's still not difficult for someone who works with it every day. It might put off people who are, as stated, crap and lazy. Those who whine about on these forums are probably crap and lazy.There are several apps out there and well documented on AAS that have been created by lone programmers or small teams that are excellent. If these people can do it then so can Nokia.
Despite your simplistic view, all development and coding does not end up as apps on the Ovi store (some of it might be in some of them though).
I agree. However in other arenas Symbian has been viewed as not the best to develop in. Time will tell once things progress forward a bit more.
I would bet that no "native" version appears until S^3 is out and running. And then its likely (at least in the UI part) to be built using Qt, no?
Ok, i just downloaded and installed the updated Ovi Store 1.06(18) to my N86. It installed fine, however when Ovi Store opens up it asks you accept their Ovi terms and conditions, etc and you have to click on 'I Agree'. When i do i then receive a message saying 'the operation could not be completed due to an error'. This message comes up all the time. I'm not sure what's going on because Ovi Store won't open up.
Is anyone having the same problem i am?
There is nothing wrong about using wrt, it make apps easier to integrate with web based services. There is nothing slow about symbian, only the s60 ui. You would have to be completely crazy to believe that nokia cant code ovistore in native symbian c++, it is not as impossible as you think and will probably take just a bit more time that the pseudo wrt/native c++ one now. Symbian c++ may be challenging but it is not as impossible as u think.
There is nothing wrong about using wrt, it make apps easier to integrate with web based services. There is nothing slow about symbian, only the s60 ui. You would have to be completely crazy to believe that nokia cant code ovistore in native symbian c++, it is not as impossible as you think and will probably take just a bit more time that the pseudo wrt/native c++ one now. Symbian c++ may be challenging but it is not as impossible as u think.
A little off topic. But my n900 is no longer a supported device. Good job.
malerocks wrote:IAN2, that IS the ideal way, but Nokia has chosen not to. Why, is anybody's guess.
Mine was that instead of developing one for S60 and one for S40, they just developed one that works on both.
That would have been a valid reason... but unfortunately it's incorrect 😊 The S40 Ovi Store is a completely different application, based on Java. That WRT stuff doesn't work on any S40 devices.
Ian2 wrote:We definitely disagree here. You need to select right tool for the job. WRT is good for simple web widgets when you do not have (or don't want to pay for them) skills or resources for real programming.For serious application like app store I would guess Nokia did this as a "quick and dirty" solutions because they were unable to make a real program in reasonable time. I am sure they finally will release native (or Qt?) version of the store. They just need more speed and competence in programming, because whatever software they write lately is a disaster (like first releases of slow, bloated, Ovi Suite that needed months to be remotely usable or Ovi services each with it's own login).
The WRT stuff is Nokias idea of unifying the development on their various platforms. So it's a strategic choice to do the Ovi Store with WRT. But it's not very mature yet. Having some experience with native Symbian programming, and hearing war stories from people working with WRT, I'd actually guess doing a native client would have been _easier_.
WRT 2.0 should b around the corner, which is a totally different kind of beast 😊
As someone else reported, on my N86 8MP I get a load of touch apps showing up as recommended... The phone doesn't even have a touch screen! I tried Tunewiki just to be sure it's not a new version that works on non-touchscreens, but it isn't...
What a joke!
I am in Hong Kong, in case that has any bearing on things... Steve, do you have the same problem? I know you're an N86 user...
I'm also a N86 user and I have the same problem.
Type Facebook and you will see the facebook application for S60 5th ed, s40, and for the E71/72.
Wait wait wait.... The E71 version ? The only version that work on S60 3rd ed ?? Which is officialy not available on other S60 3rd ed phones ?? Oh my god I can install this application directly from the store, without having to type the direct URL ! This is great !
Sometimes bugs have good side 😊
I was at a Nokia event recently where they outlined their development strategy going forward. They want developers to develop only on 2 development environment: Web Runtime & Qt. Support for Symbian C++ apps will be discontinued from Symbian ^4 where they will not be able to run on Symbian ^4 phones (coming in 2 years time)
That's why they're not making a native app for Ovi Store.
The net effect for us developers are; in 2 years time prepare to write off all development work done on Symbian C++, learn Qt and support Qt by contributing to their Open Source project by adding new functionalities if you want to be able to replicate the functionalities of your Symbian C++ app in Qt.
one more useless update by nokia i think they just want to be in news by doing such utter thgings instead of this they could update OVI with bunch of apps, everyone should have appreciated them i doubt how many apps are there in that OVI