The fact is, if you have a fundamental disagreement with the S60 UI style then Symbian^3 is never going to be for you. If what bothered you about S60 5th edition was all of the annoying things like double-tap and too many menu's, you should find that these problems have gone away. Seems like Eldar was in the former camp.
Nokia N8 - content creation and consumption on Symbian^3
Does anyone know what cpu is inside the N8? My apologies for asking what maybe a silly question but can someone explain the difference between 135MB internal memory and 256MB RAM?
Overall N8 doesn't look too bad - liking the silver one!
For me personally I see nothing interesting here except the price.
The same S60 renamed S^3 with a 12mp camera, HD recording and HDMI connection as highlights. Boring. The price, however, is amazing!! Is it really true?
Anyway, my interest is in an E71-esque Meego device with a 3" screen. I know I am probably wishing for something that is unlikely to see daylight but you never know.
It must be one of the latest Texas Intrument OMAP 3630 or 3640.
Unregistered wrote:Does anyone know what cpu is inside the N8? My apologies for asking what maybe a silly question but can someone explain the difference between 135MB internal memory and 256MB RAM?Overall N8 doesn't look too bad - liking the silver one!
Try to relate these to your PC. 135MB internal memory is the size of C Drive i.e. where you might typically install apps and your phone will store temp files and 256 MB is the RAM (random access memory). You would be probably using a PC with 1 or 2 GB RAM.
Mr Mark wrote:Or who has actually used some pre production betas and can't really find that much to moan about. Mind you, although Eldar kind of blew his credibility a bit with the N900 I do share some of his concerns and I'll need to see this phone in action before making a decision.That said, Symbian^3 get rid of my two biggest gripes - single/double tap UI inconsistency and network connection confirmation messages. If it tidies up the menu system even better. It's also a fair bet that, as with their recent popular phones, Nokia will continue to improve the firmware as time goes by.
The biggest wow here is the price point - �320 for a phone of that specification is just crazy. Unless Nokia have really buggered up the UI - and, no, that's not the same as not introducing something radical - this looks like a hit.
Hi Folks,
We should consider this OS a back to basics for Nokia, that correct many of the annoying problems in the UI that let down Symbian OS itself (I say this as Nokia employee and ex-Symbian). The Symbian^3 is the start of Nokia's turn around, and unlike S60 5th edition, this is a complete rethink of the UI from a consumer perspective.
It is also an important stepping stone to Symbian^4
Cheers,
Kevin
The X8 has the very similar OS to what the N97 had. No thanks, I will have to pass. Owning the N97 was enough torture for me.
Important to note, though, that you can't necessarily compare size with that of a PC; for example, Windows XP will run (albeit a bit slowly) on a PC with 512Mb of RAM. Symbian needs far less than that, because it was designed with a small footprint in mind.
And apps on Symbian tend to be a lot smaller, too. Judging memory size by comparison with a PC, where you have software that's got the whole kitchen sink thrown in, just on the offchance you might, for example, on day plug in a particular printer, won't really make for a fair comparison.
USB on the go, thats cool!
Is this CPU ARM Cortex A8 ?
i have ages left on my contract but i will buy this outside my contract if it hits the uk for around �350...
this looks like the first touch screen nokia im ready for
"Almost everythg I've hoped for is here, including xenon/led combo."
That's the one thing I hoped for, too, but is that actually there? As far as I can tell, there's ONLY a Xenon flash on this device, right? So no video light? If that's the case, I sadly won't be buying this otherwise perfect phone, as I absolutely need a video LED. Can someone confirm for me whether or not that's present?
Finally Nokia has come out with an iPhone killer, and killing the iPhone 4G before it is born. This N8 should be the king of all smart phones especially now that Nokia has got its Ovi Store running properly.
Unregistered wrote:Finally Nokia has come out with an iPhone killer, and killing the iPhone 4G before it is born. This N8 should be the king of all smart phones especially now that Nokia has got its Ovi Store running properly.
This is *not* an iPhone killer.
To be complete, an iPhone killer would have to compete on the complete ecosystem - including 3rd party addons, as well as the apps, music store, etc. I know that Nokia have Ovi and Music, which are quite good, but they still aren't quite there.
Anyway, the iPhone will only become a smartphone once v4 of the OS appears, Nokia have been ruler of the smartphone world in the most important area (sales) regardless of definition.
The N8 is growing on me at an alarming rate - the internal UI (apparently) looks similar to what has gone before, but with a more consistent/sensible operation. Overall specs on this phone are absolutely fantastic though, and not just having a 12mp camera, but claiming to have the largest sensor on the market - thats an important aspect of digital imaging.
Best thing for me? It looks like it'll be appearing around the time my contract is up for renewal.
When you look closely at the back of the N8 , it doesn't seem very difficult to open that cover ...
😊 Regards jApi NL
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While I'm sure the N8 will be a nice phone I honestly think Nokia is a little late to the party with it. Most of the features the N8 offers, with the exception of Symbian^3, HDMI and Wifi N, have been out for awhile with in the SE Satio and the Samsung i8910.
Being a current owner of a i8910 I see no need to toss it in favour of the N8.
"Nokia have been ruler of the smartphone world in the most important area (sales)"
Why do you say that sales are most important? I'm not a shareholder in any of these companies, so why should I give two shits how many devices they sell?
In fact, I would argue that a company that put sales as its priority will inevitably be stricken by conservatism and be slow to adapt to changing trends. This has been Nokia's problem for years.
I'm disappointed! The resolution is even smaller than that of the N97 (also I think the resolution is 640x360). Why can't Nokia take the leadership in resolution, as they did it with the E90 Communicator with its 800x352 pixel display?
So I will stuck with my E90. If Nokia (or any other manufacturer) wants to sell me a new Symbian mobile: At least 800x480, as it is now comon on first class mobiles (Windows Mobile, Android all have devices with this or even higher resolution). But I would prefer a successor to the E90, similar design as N97 but with full keyboard (digit row), but size of E90 (perhaps wider, not longer). The touchscreen display should use the full area (as much as technical possible), which then should allow a display with 1024 x >=480 (the E90 display doesn't use the full area available).
If you ever have surfed with the new Opera mobile 10 and an 800 pixel wide display (or used office applications), you now what I mean 😊
Sigh. Nothing new really.
Long live S40 platform!
It's a great phone and the price is for semi-mass market. The only downer I really see here is the release date somewhere in Q3! That's three months from now! That's quite a long time till it gets out and light years in the mobile tech world!
Does anyone know what happened to these rumors? http://www.begeek.fr/premiere-photo-du-nokia-n98-7699
Doesn't look like the N8 with Qwerty? Hope they release this too, the keys look actually quite awesome compared to the N97 and finally its a 4 row layout!! Thank good!
Do all N97 early adopters get one of these for free? I feel thoroughly cheated
Dardano wrote:It's a great phone and the price is for semi-mass market. The only downer I really see here is the release date somewhere in Q3! That's three months from now! That's quite a long time till it gets out and light years in the mobile tech world!Does anyone know what happened to these rumors? http://www.begeek.fr/premiere-photo-du-nokia-n98-7699
Doesn't look like the N8 with Qwerty? Hope they release this too, the keys look actually quite awesome compared to the N97 and finally its a 4 row layout!! Thank good!
Yes some sites call this the upcoming E7. am waiting for that since it has QWERTY and i dont care about the camera (i dont need more than 3.2MP may be its only me).
Eseries serious device now will get my money. even for 800$ since i paid that for the E90 before 2 years and still happy with it.
Ammar_Dento wrote:Yes some sites call this the upcoming E7. am waiting for that since it has QWERTY and i dont care about the camera (i dont need more than 3.2MP may be its only me).Eseries serious device now will get my money. even for 800$ since i paid that for the E90 before 2 years and still happy with it.
But it has N00 in its corner. 🙄
tenoce wrote:But it has N00 in its corner. 🙄
I think because its prototype. The site said its just a rumor :con?
Who cares? call it iPoo and give me killer keyboard with S^x :tongue:
What processor does it have as it is listed here http://www.forum.nokia.com/devices/N8/ as only an ARM 11 not a cortex A8???
bp101 wrote:"Nokia have been ruler of the smartphone world in the most important area (sales)"Why do you say that sales are most important? I'm not a shareholder in any of these companies, so why should I give two shits how many devices they sell?
In fact, I would argue that a company that put sales as its priority will inevitably be stricken by conservatism and be slow to adapt to changing trends. This has been Nokia's problem for years.
What the sales tends to show is that Nokia are actually producing products that people tend to want. Although i will agree that Nokias attempts at touch screen have been relatively lame, although surprisingly effective (5230 is by far and away the cheapest/most flexible satnav solution on the market).
If you think that Nokia aren't innovating, try looking at the competition. None of them have done anything like true innovation.
There is little in the way of true innovation in mobiles these days - everything has been gradual evolution - more pixels, faster processors, higher resolution screens, etc.
iFanboy wrote:...some features down right stolen *Cough* Coverflow *Cough*. But that's honestly the only thing I can complain about, and for a Nokia handset, that's astonishing 😊
How about Apple stealing ALL of Nokia's GSM/3G technology? Now that's what I call theft...
One thing that's missing from the spec sheet seems to be Nokia's VoIP software. Is that just an oversight or has it been removed from Symbian^3 phones?
Aeru wrote:What processor does it have as it is listed here http://www.forum.nokia.com/devices/N8/ as only an ARM 11 not a cortex A8???
With the lead times on the product development thats not totally surprising - Nokia have only recently announced their links with other cpu suppliers.
But still, Symbian tends to be more efficient than most other mobile operating systems, so a 50%+ hike in CPU speed is definitely welcome.
iFanboy wrote:
My only critiscism however is they haven't innovated at all tbh, everything on the handset has been done before (Better? Who knows) and some features down right stolen *Cough* Coverflow *Cough*. But that's honestly the only thing I can complain about, and for a Nokia handset, that's astonishing 😊
Coverflow was never created by Apple. It was developed independently and then bought by Apple, as is their way with 99% of their "innovation".