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SEE 2010 - Amsterdam 9th-10th November

7 replies · 3,571 views · Started 30 May 2010

The initial website for this years annual Symbian show recently went live. They reveal that SEE 2010 will take place in Amsterdam at Beurs van Berlage on the 9th and 10th of November. On the site you can find the basic information about the event and register your interest in attending as well as find out more about sponsor and speaker opportunities. SEE 2010 could be the venue for the first substantive look at the new UI of Symbian^4 and will set the scene for the Symbian ecosystem as it moves towards what is likely to be very busy 2011.

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I thought the transition was to be largely completed by Symbian^4. Now I guess one more step has been added and we will see a good UI by ^5 only. For Symbian's sake, I (as a lover of one) hope that the transition period to ^5 is not too long and the UI that is finally delivered as part of ^5 is not ancient as compared to the UI that will exist at that time.

Excellent venue, 10 minutes walking distance of Amsterdam Central Station and within crawling distance of most of the tourist traps Amsterdam is famous/notorious for 😉

I thought that the narrative until now was: s^3 is at transitional system, but the _real_ revolution is going to be S^4? Shouldn't this website be more critical about this apparent shift in narrative?

just aking - Symbian^3 has always been intended to be transitional. However, at the same time, it should not be written off. It is very important for Nokia and the productised version will be a big change (from S60 5th Edition / Symbian^1 devices). We may well see Symbian^3 devices have a longer shelf life than the 6 month release gap might suggest. For example I would expect the majority of lower end devices released in 2011 to be Symbian^3. However I do not have any specific information on this. There was some confusion caused by OPK's statements about Symbian^3 in last quarters earnings call (where he talked up Symbian^3), but a lot of that was about the audience he was talking too (short term view). I think a lot of this is also about getting use to having this kind of information in the open - previously roadmaps etc were well kept secrets.

Put another way Symbian^3 is important for existing Symbian manufacturers - whereas Symbian^4 and 5 are probably going to be what attracts new manufacturers into Symbian. So yes Symbian^4 onwards is really important and if you're going to pick one as revolutionary that's it. However the platform will not stand still going forward... Talk of Symbian^5 is really premature at this stage, for the most part, I probably should have made that clearer.

malerocks - It depends which component you are looking at as to which Symbian version is important. The new UI will be done in Symbian^4 (the big change), but there will be other improvements to follow (maybe saying it will continue to evolve is a better description).

Symbian^5 will see maturation of other components (mainly lower down the software stack). A good example of this is SMP - some bits are going in Symbian^3, some in Symbian^4, the majority in Symbian^5 and (possibly) some final bits in Symbian^6. Obviously it is very hard to generalise like this and be specific about releases which haven't been planned yet or are in the very early stages.

I understand what you are saying Rafe. My point is that we never heard of ^5 been part of the transition and suddenly here it is been announced as the final step. The concern is that the UI that is ultimately delivered at part of ^4 should not feel broken or incomplete as it has always been announced in the past that ^4 is the one to look out for. Agree on ^3 been the transition step.

I also understand that evolutions will continue (we have seen Symbian move from 6 to 7, 8, 8.1, 9.2, 9.3 & 9.4 over the last 5 years) and hence ^5 and ^6 will come, but if what was promised and expected in ^4 spills on to ^5 and onwards, people may just loose their patience for a OS that is anyways facing a lot of flack for the UI and other points.

Yeah fair point. I think its fair to say all the UI will be done in 4. So yes what has been talked about as the big change in 4 will happen.

However we will see some updates, as we do in every other version. There may be things like extra resolutions support (though using Qt as a basis theoretically makes different resolutions easy to support).

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