Damian Dinning, the architect of Nokia's N8 and other top camera phones, posting on Nokia Conversations, has shared some further insights into the development of the N8's stills camera. He explains Nokia's approach on the N8 and why this differs from earlier Nokia products and from other camera phones on the market. Rather than using every trick in the book to fool the eye into thinking it is a great image, the guiding principle behind the N8's camera is go for reproduction that is 'as natural as possible' in both visual and audio elements. Read on for a summary of the key points from the piece...
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People are really dying to get hold of the N8,but all we get is news about the camera an software on the mobile,but with a Company under so much pressure because of there Decline in Sales an Shares,Why did Nokia announce the N8 in April an still no news about the release of it,i have read it as been put back to October,so is this good news for Nokia,No it is not,Apple Announce the New iPhone 4 then 2 weeks after the Mobile is Released,Nokia will be losing buyers because of being feed up waiting for the N8 an buy a mobile already available,Then What will Nokia do if the N8 goes down the same path as the N97 an lets people down,i wonder if Nokia will end up winding up as they have failed again,just hope not
Dude, i am pretty sure, that Nokia would not have announced N8 at the time when they actually did.
I think they had to announce it earlier due to Eldar's post, as the announcement was just the day after his post and it cannot be co-incidence as far as i think.
They were rushed into announcement due to his leak which had lot of negative sentiment. Hence they had to announce it earlier, and since they did it so early, now they are trying to maintain the momentum with these kind of articles, so that people don't forget about it.
That link clearly leads to a lower resolution image....!
Whoops - sorry. Link to high resolution image now fixed.
hary536, not so. I have heard from reliable sources that the announcement was planned well in advance (as an aside, do you really think an annoucment like that, even a low key one, can be whipped together in a day?J. No, they were not just making it up, dated materials back it up. So, it was the other way around: Eldar timed his leak to the announcement; i.e. he had heard of the annoucement date and published accordingly.
That high resolution image, while there is lots of pixels, there really isn't much detail.
But I do like the fact they are dialing back on digital processing. Still prefer less though.
"We wanted to strip the process back to the basics and deliver raw imaging power both in stills"
I wonder if they'll include a "raw" picture mode then? I don't really know much about photography but I guess professional photographers don't use jpgs or if they do they set the compression at it's minimum level.
I read the other day that under the iphone ios4, they have an API that allows access to raw data coming out of the sensor before any processing takes place.
Maybe it will come to other phones/os one day.
I think, Damian said in few replies on the Nokia conversations thread, that "raw output" is currently not an option in the first release software. Though he said, they may consider it for future, that may mean future FW update or future handsets.
Again, i think that 99% of the users don't care about RAW output. He summed that up in 1 sentence in one of the replies that ofcz, they cannot please everyone.
viipottaja wrote:hary536, not so. I have heard from reliable sources that the announcement was planned well in advance (as an aside, do you really think an annoucment like that, even a low key one, can be whipped together in a day?J. No, they were not just making it up, dated materials back it up. So, it was the other way around: Eldar timed his leak to the announcement; i.e. he had heard of the annoucement date and published accordingly.
Well, that is also another possibility. If so, then that proves even more that how Eldar is trying to tarnish Nokia's image(by such timing), as opposed to what his supporters believe.
In any case, since your reliable sources haven't published any proofs, so we can't be sure of this.
But well, past is past.
hary536 wrote:Well, that is also another possibility. If so, then that proves even more that how Eldar is trying to tarnish Nokia's image(by such timing), as opposed to what his supporters believe. In any case, since your reliable sources haven't published any proofs, so we can't be sure of this.
But well, past is past.
This is all a bit silly and melodramatic.
Most people still have no idea that N8 is on the way, and the rest of us are intelligent enough to understand that a handset takes a while to develop and the whole process of working with the networks means that a leak is inevitable. Somebody might leave an N8 in a bar for example, and cause a very silly fuss over not much.
So, what's the big deal. It really does not matter. Relax, chill and go with the flow.
I really can't be bothered with silly childish conspiracy theories being dreamed up by over active cynicism.
"People are really dying to get hold of the N8,but all we get is news about the camera an software on the mobile,but with a Company under so much pressure because of there Decline in Sales an Shares,Why did Nokia announce the N8 in April an still no news about the release of it,i have read it as been put back to October,so is this good news for Nokia,No it is not,Apple Announce the New iPhone 4 then 2 weeks after the Mobile is Released,Nokia will be losing buyers because of being feed up waiting for the N8 an buy a mobile already available,Then What will Nokia do if the N8 goes down the same path as the N97 an lets people down,i wonder if Nokia will end up winding up as they have failed again,just hope not"
--- Well, I guess it's a good thing then, that the iPhone 4 sucks in almost every way possible, the antenna sucks, iOS multitasking UI and function is a joke and the camera is "ok" but nothing more and the rest hasn't changed. Talk about a dissapointment compared to the 3GS.
"I read the other day that under the iphone ios4, they have an API that allows access to raw data coming out of the sensor before any processing takes place.
Maybe it will come to other phones/os one day."
This is old news on Symbian. You've always had access to the camera through the API on Symbian.
We're talking raw output from the API, not just simple camera access.
hmmm...1 more question abt the N8/Symbian^3.
will the camera remember the last setting? or we have to set it all again every time we start the camera?
Honestly I have high hopes for the N8, I was planning to buy the iPhone 4 to replace my 3GS but Recently I got extremely fed up with Iphone's and apples in general proprietary nature.
You see, I don't define a smartphone as a phone that run apps, or have a media player, browse the web, etc, but I define a smartphone as a phone that can truly adapt to it's owner and the way they live; when it comes to apples iPhone I am sad to say that they fail miserably, their philosophy is that we should change our man-device interaction methods to what they deem "the right way".
In short, I miss:
-sending files over Bluetooth
-using any mp3 as a ringer
-using my phone as a mass storage device, moving files to and FROM the phone
-syncing with more than one computer
-owning an unlocked phone
-and the list goes on..................,
And finally, i do not care for nice looking OS (although it wouldn't hurt), I just a trusty old symbian of course with a mdernized kick (facebook) that works packed in a quality device (please no more cheap blue and pink plastic phones, we are not Barbie and Ken dolls).
I don't see why you need the N8 for that as lots of Android phones would work for you too.
i'm reading this thread on a proto N8, running the latest s/w update (wk25), so any questions?
Unregistered wrote:hmmm...1 more question abt the N8/Symbian^3.will the camera remember the last setting? or we have to set it all again every time we start the camera?
Kind of. You need to set your preferred settings which are then set for you each time you start the camera. So if you prefer flash to be off set that and each time you start the camera the flash will be set to off. You can have pretty much any of the manual settings set in this way and any combination. It always starts in still camera mode. Based on the vast majority of usage is stills we felt this would help in some grab shot situations.
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