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April 12th

63 replies · 22,892 views · Started 08 April 2011

Come on, people, Nokia's announced April 12th will be a very important day to Symbian. With the new version of Qt (whereas it's a beta) and the launch of C7 Astound with some Symbian innovations, let's speculate! 😃

I think they will release the PR2.0 PLUS (and I like this feature) the Nokia Pure font as default.

Very excited to see (thank goodness here in Brazil is a little late compared to GMT, so I'll get the news right when I wake up)!

BTW, weren't Rafe, Steve, Dave or Ewan called to attend the presentation??? Or maybe they are hiding something... hehehe

matthewrleech wrote:Hi bchliu!

Where can we get it from?

Thanks,
Matt.


Agreed.

I might just be being an idiot but I don't understand how we can download QT on the phone directly.

I mean I've worked out that if you don't have the QT files needed when downloading a QT application from the ovi store then it automatically downloads the files, but how can we make sure those QT files are up to date? Can we force an update?

Thanks

Paul

Also, how do we find out which version is currently installed?

I've sourced and downloaded Qt4.7.3 (no idea if it's original and safe) but there's too much in there to go blindly running all the .sis files. I found it amongst the ads and popups on this page: http://www.mediafire.com/?c6216k9iba2klcb

Does anybody know what should be installed?

Any opinions on whether we actually need to do this?

matthewrleech wrote:Also, how do we find out which version is currently installed?

Well, this was an issue I had too (a few posts ago).
If you have not downloaded any Qt version, your phone has Qt 4.6.x (because it's the default on S^3 and it doesn't show up when you select 'app configuration'😉.

To install the newest Qt version (4.7.3 nowadays), you have to download the Qt SDK (http://qt.nokia.com/products) (tip: choose online installation and mark only a few components - the most important is 'Qt for Symbian'😉. I suppose you are using Windows, so a shortcut will be created, called 'Install Qt on Symbian' or something like that.
There you go, Ovi Suite will automatically start and ask you to syncronize (or instead, you may locate the .sis files and install for yourself).

The download from mediafire contained eleven .sis files and one .sisx. I've attached a screen grab of the file list to this post.

bazao & bchlui, would you mind advising which ones should be installed?

Thanks loads!

Attachments: Screen shot 2011-04-08 at 11.38.57.png

You will need the 4.7.3 versions of QtWebKit and QtMobility plus (and this one is a guess) the 6.9MB qt.sis (my 4.7.2 Qt install sis file is 6.6MB but has a different file name)

JayTay wrote:You will need the 4.7.3 versions of QtWebKit and QtMobility plus (and this one is a guess) the 6.9MB qt.sis (my 4.7.2 Qt install sis file is 6.6MB but has a different file name)

Brill! Thanks JayTay.

Will try that now and report back.

-- Edit --
Installation worked 😊

Installed qt.sis and qtwebkit from 4.7.3, then tried to install qtmobility.sis from 1.1.2 but received an error saying that I needed a later version of Qt. Rebooted phone, then qtmobility installed ok. I think that qtwebkit and qtmobility prompted for an installation location, I chose C: both times.

Browser does seem to be better, in fact a lot of phone operations do.

Many many thanks to bazao and JayTay!

matthewrleech wrote:Brill! Thanks JayTay.

Will try that now and report back.

-- Edit --
Installation worked 😊

Installed qt.sis and qtwebkit from 4.7.3, then tried to install qtmobility.sis from 1.1.2 but received an error saying that I needed a later version of Qt. Rebooted phone, then qtmobility installed ok. I think that qtwebkit and qtmobility prompted for an installation location, I chose C: both times.

Browser does seem to be better, in fact a lot of phone operations do.

Many many thanks to bazao and JayTay!

You've convinced me to upgrade to - strangely mine didn't require a power cycle before qtmobility installed… I'm going to power cycle it anyway to make sure it's fully operational etc

Don't have PR 1.2, but hoping that it still makes a difference to 1.1

matthewrleech wrote:Brill! Thanks JayTay.

Will try that now and report back.

-- Edit --
Installation worked 😊

Installed qt.sis and qtwebkit from 4.7.3, then tried to install qtmobility.sis from 1.1.2 but received an error saying that I needed a later version of Qt. Rebooted phone, then qtmobility installed ok. I think that qtwebkit and qtmobility prompted for an installation location, I chose C: both times.

Browser does seem to be better, in fact a lot of phone operations do.

Many many thanks to bazao and JayTay!

Er... well, I don't know exactly how to say that, but... @matthewrleech, how did you do the update? Actually, I haven't updated the Qt, I downloaded only. 😃

I tried to install 4.7.3 version but the message 'couldn't erase the file' appeared. I tried via Ovi Suite and directly on the phone. Same error.

Ok, sorry guys, for posting a lot... (but better than say that my wife and I 'are trying to concieve this month' hahaha)

Here is the thing: I did it! I was able to update Qt to 4.7.3 version! One must:
1) turn off everything which uses Qt (e.g. Nokia Sleeping Screen)
2) turn off the phone
3) turn on the phone
4) execute all the .sis files (I did it directly on the phone)

matthewrleech wrote:@bazao Hope it's all working now 😊

Notice the difference?

Well... I think it's working because yes, I noticed the difference: before Qt 4.7.3 at the second webpage with flash video, the 'full memory' error appeared. Now it takes three webpages... :frown:

Anyway, it is a little quicker to be honest!

And here in Brazil a very nice blog got the annoucement:
User posted image

Since I read that there will be no webcast or anything like, I'm afraid Nokia will only announce a deadline to release the news. No new phones, no Qt no-beta version, no PR... Oh my, I hope I'm wrong...

Sorry peeps.. been busy.. but its good that you guys have "found" 4.7.3 and tried it..

However.. I have forgotten to warn you all that its still PR version (post beta) and does break an untested amount of QT apps.. this includes the OVI store (which should be updated in time with the actual release of 4.7.3).

Theres no downgrade path at the moment back to 4.7.2 that I know of (searched around).. so applying it will mean you will be stuck with it until the formal release in "a couple of weeks" apparently.. Hopefully with the last minor bugs fixed!

So far though, only found OVI store and Bubbles to be affected (Bubbles always breaks anyway given its dependency on QT)..

matthewrleech wrote:Qt4.7.3 installed here and Ovi Store is still working. I don't have Bubbles installed.

Err.. have you tried downloading anything other than just the main screen? I havent managed to get anything downloaded successfully since.. 😞 It just goes to a white screen "Please wait" and a cancel button..

Oh well..

bchliu wrote:Err.. have you tried downloading anything other than just the main screen? I havent managed to get anything downloaded successfully since.. 😞 It just goes to a white screen "Please wait" and a cancel button..

Oh well..

Yep, no problem here.

Well, it's 10.00 hrs here in the sunny Cotswolds on April 12th.

bazao wrote:Here is the thing: @Blog_Jack, a chinese blogger posted: "Have further information to determine next Tuesday (12 / 4), Nokia will release new Symbian phone / PR2.0"

His blog seems to be very up-to-dated so I don't disconsider this information.

Just checked N8 OTA and via Ovi Suite... "No updates available"

bazao wrote:
And BTW, the chinese source was right, eh?

Not so far!

Will keep checking... but not looking good for PR2.0 at the moment. :bebored:

HoneyMonster wrote:The announcement came this week, today. The actual software later.

So, it was announced today about PR2.0 on the N8 then?

Any release date given?

UPDATE

According to this...

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/item/12782_Symbian_Anna-usability_focused.php

sometime in Q2 for "Anna", a version of PR2.0... possibly next month. Maybe, hopefully, probably.

Oh well... that's PR2.0... or should I say "Anna", cleared up.

I can unplug the N8 and head off to the pub then. 😊

ironass wrote:So, it was announced today about PR2.0 on the N8 then?

Any release date given?

No, very vague... 😡

GLOBAL � Today we launch the Nokia X7 and Nokia E6, both of which come with a renewed version of the Symbian operating system. This version � which has been referred to previously as PR2 � is now known as Symbian Anna. It comes with a faster browser, improved text input, fresh, new icons and the latest version of Ovi Maps. Symbian Anna will also be made available for owners of the Nokia N8, C7, C6-01 and E7 in the coming months.

HoneyMonster wrote:No, very vague... 😡

Nothing new there then.

My update and your post crossed.

In the meantime... just enough time for our local spammer, jaambutt, to get in a post. Oddly enough, his user name is exactly what I would like to do with his post. :laugh:

ironass wrote:Nothing new there then.

My update and your post crossed.

In the meantime... just enough time for our local spammer, jaambutt, to get in a post. Oddly enough, his user name is exactly what I would like to do with his post. :laugh:

it schucks big time. I think my E7 is a gorgeous piece of kit, but the software lets it down. Too many annoyances making it a PITA to use... :icon13:

Just a few words about today:
Nokia, congratulations! I thought you wouldn't be so stupid announcing an annoucement, but you were able to sink even more!!

Now my question: why (why in the World) didn't Nokia release these updates little by little? No need of Anna, Beatrix, Candice, Deborah, Emma, Fabrizia, Glenda, Hilary, I... (well, by that time we will should have Windows Phone already 😉 ) Oh my. Why (why in the World) I still give a damn about Nokia?

And @ironass, the chinese source got really close! But I will not complain about him, because he might be those hackers which hacks the chinese firewalls! hahaha

HoneyMonster wrote:it schucks big time. I think my E7 is a gorgeous piece of kit, but the software lets it down. Too many annoyances making it a PITA to use... :icon13:

I couldn't agree with you more HoneyMonster.

The same goes for my N8... great hardware but underpowered and lousey OS.

Six months ago, in my original review of the N8, I said that I felt that Symbian^3 was nothing more than a stop gap, make-do and mend, until MeeGo was ready. My opinion hasn't changed except for instead of MeeGo it's now Windows Mobile7 and to make Symbian^3 good enough to franchise.

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/forum//forum/thread/96706/&highlight=review

Oh, and BTW, the video of X7's presentation still shows Nokia Sans font. Clearly an #EpicFail, since Nokia was so proud of making the Pure font.