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Matrix Revolutions Discussion (Spoilers ahead)

32 replies · 8,285 views · Started 28 September 2003

MemphisX 28 Sep 2003, 21:43

Ok, after watching all the new trailers for Revolutions on www.thematrix.com I think I know what to expect from it.

First of all Trinity goes to the the Oracle (the actress has changed cause of the death of the first actress who plaid in the first two Matrixs, the ETM gamers allready know the new one). And she tells her that Neo needs her help. In some way Trinity jacks in finds Merovigian and (after alot of fighting having also the help of the oracle's gurdian as well as Morpheus)he helps her to wake him up (or at least sth like that I don't know how).

After that Neo also visits the Oracle. He understands that he has to defeat Smith elsewhere the Matrix will be destroyed killing all the people inside as the architect said in Matrix Reloaded. Neo then finds a machine in the real world (which might be the king of the machines or sth like that) not only to inform him that Smith cannot be controled by him (the machine) but also to cooperate with him because he (Neo) believes that he is the only one who can stop Smith, so in exchange machines won't destroy Zion.

Lastly we surely see a big fighting scene of Neo with Smith which will be in no doubt the final showdown. Neo also has the power to control or destroy machines, but it has to have his eyes shut (don't ask me why,also in his conversation with the machine he also had his eyes shut).The Matrix will surely still exist after the end of revolutions. Matrix Online will take place after it (it is an MMORPG game).

Now some dialogs and quotes...

Oracle:Everything that has a begining, has an end... I see the end coming, I see the darkness burning,I see death...

Smith: Mr Anderson, welcome back, we missed you...
Neo: It ends tonight.

Oracle(to Neo about Smith) : You are all that stand in his way. If you cannot stop him tonight then I fear that tomorow will never come...

Oracle (to Neo about Smith AGAIN) : Soon he is going to have the power to destroy this world.
Neo:What if I can't stop him...
Oracle: ...then I fear tomorrow will never come...

Smith(probably about the oracle): I am not so bad when she get to know me...

Machine (if you have seen Last res..sth from Animatrix (part 2 at the end the machine speaking and demanding...)you know how his voice sounds) : SPEAK...
Neo: The program Smith has grown beyond your control.You cannot stop him , but I can...
Machine : And if you fail?
Neo : I won't

Unknown: In less than 12 hours the machines will breach the dock walls

Merovigian : Bring me the eyes of the oracle and I'll give you back your savior

Bane (or better say Smith) : Mr. Andersson
Neo : Who are you?
Bane : Look past the flesh and see your enemy...
Neo : It's impossible.
Bane : Not impossible, inevitable

Morpheus: Neo is doing what he believes he must do. I don't know what he can do to save us,but I know he will never give up and I can wait.

Morpheus : You never believed in the one!
Niobe : I still don't. I believe in him...

Trinity: Do you know what happened to Neo?
Oracle: He is trapped in a place between this world and the machine world

Oracle(to Morpheus) : All I can do is tell you that your friend needs your help, he needs all our help

Morpheus: As long as there is a single breath in his body...he will never give up,and I can wait...

Trinity: I know what has to be done...

Persephone(to Merovigian about Trinity) : If she has to she'ld kill everyone of us.
Trinity(to Merovigian aiming him in his head with a gun) : Believe it...

Neo: Can Zion be saved?
Oracle : Tonight the future of both worlds will be in your hand or in his

PS: Don't blame me for typos or wrong guesses or whatever.I would like to hear your thoughts though, and I strongly advise you to watch all the trailers...
But anyway we will see in about 2 months... really can't wait

Last edit: Just added some more quotes...

Orophin Anwarunya 28 Sep 2003, 22:48

(the actress has changed cause of the death of the first actress who plaid in the first two Matrixs, the ETM gamers allready know the new one)

death!!! what death?? did i miss something????

TANKERx 29 Sep 2003, 10:22

The lady who plays the Oracle in the first two movies (very well acted as well), died during filming.

I think it was a heart attack, but I'm not sure.

😞

Edgedale 30 Sep 2003, 05:45

Ohhhhhhhh Agent Smith... ohhh i like him. He's so cool!!!! In fact my fav charathers are still Agent Smith and Ghost. 😃

MemphisX 02 Oct 2003, 21:29

As you Tankerx said the first actress that played the oracle died(and she was not the only one,the other was Aliyah who died on an airplane crash). The Wachovski brothers made some changes to the script in order to be able to give the role to another actress. Her first apearence was on the game (Enter the Matrix), and also was explained why she was changed...

Ghost : Can you tell me what happened to you?
Oracle : Two programs that I trusted sold the termination code of my original shell to the Merovingian.
Ghost : Why did they do that?
Oracle : For love. For the life of their child.
Ghost : You knew about it, and yet you let it happen?
Oracle : I had to.
Ghost : Why?
Oracle : Because the child is important. I can't tell you why, but I believe that one day, the child will change both our world and your world forever.
Ghost : Is that why you called for me?
Oracle : No. I am trying to prepare those that stand in the front lines of our coming trial. We stand upon the edge of a precipice, the fall from which we will not return. Each of us must find courage, when we are most afraid to do what we must. That is our only hope.

Oracle : Niobe.
Niobe : Do I know you?
Oracle : You know me, though you may not recognize me.
Niobe : Are you telling me that you are the Oracle?
Oracle : I know this won't be easy for any of you. Change never is. I wish the face you remember was the face that I was still wearing. But that face is gone.
Niobe : If you are the Oracle, tell me if I believe you are.
Oracle : You don't right now, but you will.
Niobe : Are you going to tell me something to make me believe you?
Oracle : Come on Niobe, you know that I can't do that.
Niobe : Why not?
Oracle : Because I can't make you do anything.
Niobe : At least you sound the same.
Oracle : As I said, you may not recognize the face, but who and what I am beneath remains the same.
Niobe : Can I ask what happened?
Oracle : The Merovingian warned me that if I made a certain choice, it would cost me. He is, among other things, a man of his word.
Niobe : What was the choice?
Oracle : The same one you yourself will have to make -- the choice to help Neo or not.
Niobe : Then Neo is alive?
Oracle : Yes. He touched the Source and separated his mind from his body. Now he lies trapped in a place between your world and ours.
Niobe : Can we free him?
Oracle : Trinity can. But she will have to fight her way through hell to do it.
Niobe : Can I help?
Oracle : That's why I called. I cannot tell you what is going to happen. All I can do is hope that if you are given the chance, you will find the courage to do what you can.
Niobe : You once told me you knew everything you needed to. Oracle : I do. I knew everything from the beginning of this path to the end.
Niobe : I don't understand.
Oracle : Even I can't see beyond the end.
Niobe : The end. Are you trying to tell me the world is going to end?
Oracle : Yes. If we cannot save it, it will end.
Niobe : You mean Neo?
Oracle : I mean we. The path of the One is made by the many. I have a role to play, just as you have yours.

Orophin Anwarunya 03 Oct 2003, 18:57

what the....!!! Do you work for the Wachoiskis or what?!?! where do you get these scripts and photos.

Of course this would dispell all the nonsense theories on the web that Neo cant actually control the machines to an extent in the real world.

I cant wait!!!!!.........Return Of The King and Revolutions....life is good 😃 😃

MemphisX 03 Oct 2003, 19:04

Now some strange that I can't explain...

Multiple Smiths is ok, but is Neo the one sitting on the chair and glowing,and why?

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MemphisX 03 Oct 2003, 19:18

Smith... and he is on fire!!!

Maybe it has some relationship with the two previous screenshots...

Attachments: smithfire.jpg
MemphisX 03 Oct 2003, 19:36

Originally posted by Orophin Anwarunya
what the....!!! Do you work for the Wachoiskis or what?!?! where do you get these scripts and photos.

Of course this would dispell all the nonsense theories on the web that Neo cant actually control the machines to an extent in the real world.

I cant wait!!!!!.........Return Of The King and Revolutions....life is good 😃 😃

No I don't.

The photos are taken from the videos released at the matrix website. You can find them at
http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/rv_cmp/trailers_rev_frames.html

there are three for the television named:
1.Power
2.Control
3.Help

30secs each

and one international theatrical with duration 1:30...

The scripts at the first post are taken from these videos while the scripts of Niobe-Oracle and Ghost-Oracle are taken from Enter the Matrix game (PC users can read all the conversations using notepad and reading the appropriate .bin files at C:\Program Files\Infogrames\Enter The Matrix\Text - assuming that you didn't changed the default installation path)

Now all the others are expectations and guesses...
But there are a lot more to be answerd...

Edgedale 04 Oct 2003, 01:37

Life is beautiful... so beautiful... It's beautiful to me.... life is beautiful....


life is good 😃 😃

MemphisX 02 Nov 2003, 22:11

In case you cannot wait the few days till the revolution will start just visit this site:

site removed...

Edit:It was fake. Most of them were untrue. I won't post any (more) spoilers.
Just seen the Movie. I was a little bit dissapointed but it was good after all. Now waiting for Matrix Online...

Orophin Anwarunya 04 Nov 2003, 17:13

Originally posted by MemphisX
In case you cannot wait the few days till the revolution will start just visit this site:

http://www.xzaust.com/index.php?page=matrix

😊 😊 😊 😊 😃

ahhh!! mmmmmm...hhmmmm....lalalala....*finger in ears, eyes closed*....im not looking, im not listening....will wait till tommorrow (NOV 5).....evil spoilers!!!😱 😛

GhostDog 05 Nov 2003, 22:41

Same here,i'll be watching it this saturday,please no more spoilers!! 😊

Anyway,in order to prepare for The Revolutions me and my friends have rented Matrix,Animatrix and Reloaded and we are going to watch them on friday. 😮

Edgedale 19 Nov 2003, 03:57

And you also need to play Enter The Matrix in order to have the full picture of WTF is going on at the "background" of the story. All are link.

Originally posted by GhostDog
Same here,i'll be watching it this saturday,please no more spoilers!! 😊

Anyway,in order to prepare for The Revolutions me and my friends have rented Matrix,Animatrix and Reloaded and we are going to watch them on friday. 😮

GhostDog 19 Nov 2003, 12:15

This is what I did,watched The Matrix,Animatrix,Reloaded then played ETM and then watched Revolutions.I think i got it right 😃

I also enjoyed it and I felt kind of sad that it was over.I just hope they don't ruin it by making stupid sequels.

ST@RR 19 Nov 2003, 12:35

I think it was a good ending of the trilogy... 😊 although some questions were still unanswered... haven't you guys noticed that the movie never really had that much story? I mean, most of the scenes were just the fight scenes. It took the largest amount of time in the movie. But I still love it... 😊 hahaha!

MemphisX 20 Nov 2003, 23:02

Originally posted by GhostDog
.I just hope they don't ruin it by making stupid sequels.

Well, another Animatrix wouldn't be bad (stories with some more information about characters like the Merovingian, the Architect, the Oracle , Seraph...).
I'd easily say, a must...
Until that, the Matrix comics are enough...and
Waiting for Matrix Online,the real sequel to Matrix Revolutions...
url: www.thematrixonline.com

Edgedale 21 Nov 2003, 01:10

Yeah man!!! That's why when Mr. Ghost appear, i cheer out for him!!! He seems so quiet all the time.. and wonder when happen to him and spark after their hovercraft crash down in zion.

Originally posted by GhostDog
This is what I did,watched The Matrix,Animatrix,Reloaded then played ETM and then watched Revolutions.I think i got it right 😃

I also enjoyed it and I felt kind of sad that it was over.I just hope they don't ruin it by making stupid sequels.