My post was sarcastic so I don't really think that you got paid by Nokia.I only said that because your posts were....well,loads of bullocks basically and extremely PRO Nokia,Not that I have anything against Nokia,I still have 4 Nokia phones.
I apologized to you in my previous post if I offended you but I'll stick by anything I said so I'm not taking my words back.
If you have anything more to say and its not on topic,please PM me so that we don't hijack it completely.
Originally posted by GhostDog
My post was sarcastic so I don't really think that you got paid by Nokia.I only said that because your posts were....well,loads of bullocks basically and extremely PRO Nokia,Not that I have anything against Nokia,I still have 4 Nokia phones.I apologized to you in my previous post if I offended you but I'll stick by anything I said so I'm not taking my words back.
If you have anything more to say and its not on topic,please PM me so that we don't hijack it completely.[/B]
Originally posted by GhostDog
1. That is a big load of bollocks!Bluetooth is not something invented by Nokia.Bluetooth is a standard.Its Nokia to blame for that,not the headsets makers.2. Have you actually read any of the documentation on forum nokia?The whitepapers on Series 60 2.0 and the crossover from Series 60 1.x.It is clearly stated that with Series 60 2.0 there is a high level of compatibily with Series 60 1.x.And if we are going in to details,its Symbian 7.0s not 7.0,there is a big difference.
3. And what do you mean by that?Does anyone understand what that means?
4. Most applications actually do run.Drivers are a whole differnet issue,we are talking about simple applications and do you really want to compare a PC OS with and embeded OS?
5. Like i said before,even developers thought their applications would work because Nokia said so.And once again,Nokia is to blame for that,not the developers.
6. I have to agree with MemphisX that the 6600 was rushed
Below the replies to your post,
1. Yes I'd know that Bluetooth is a standard and is not invented by Nokia (Ericsson was).
But before any manufacturer start coming out a product for the use of another company product,
they'll need to get license from that particular company. And in the headset there's code to be
recognise by both devices. So nowaday you simply can't manufacture any products to be used on
another company products as your own will. Agree?
2. That's right Series 60 2.0 is ONLY "A high level of compatibily with Series 60 1.x".
And For 7.0, OK I did not type in the full word as I don't think anyone will mind about it (except you)
is just for some forum reading pleasure not neccessary to be particular exact, otherwise there will be more details needed.
If you really think everything should be perfect, then why were some AAS forum title is wrong? Like,
Nokia 6600
Discussion relating to the Nokia 6600 Series 60 (Symbian 7.0s) phone
for instance. It is misleading to all Symbian phone users. What a shame for AAS to make such mistake.
It should be Series 60 2.0. And if you look at others there's more errors...
So let's drop this line. Agree?
3. Agreed with you that not all users will understand what's the mean by that.
But sorry I'm not AAS forum lecturer here to teach people and to explain everything in details.
And I'd believed all participants here in AAS forum were of fun and hobbyist not for full time.
4. As you've already answer it yourself, ONLY "most applications actually do run" not all.
BTW, do you know how many Win9X/DirectX games actually run on a Win2k system on the initial release period?
Who's did the fixed? And how long does it take?
And is there big different in an OS that run with harddisk and one run with embedded ROM memory?
Wasn't them all digitally addressed in any form of memory?
5. Is that so, then why developers even bother to develop a 6600 compatible version?
Why developers even bother to frequently release new bugs fixed version in any of their softwares?
They might just blame it all on Nokia and saved all their troubles and sit back to relax.
6. Yes I would agreed with Mr. MemphisX that 6600 was of a bit rush-released.
But then a rush-released 6600 is much stable then any of Siemens big-buggy phones especially the 1 year old
and still yet to be officia release SX-1.
That's all from me Mr. GhostDog.
Bye!
1.A code?!?!Are you talking about pairing?I really don't see the relevance.No i don't agree,i don't see any other phone manufactorer having such problems as Nokia with Bluetooth headsets.
2.
That's right Series 60 2.0 is ONLY "A high level of compatibily with Series 60 1.x".
I'm sorry,but i don't see anything high in the compatibility level between Series 60 1.x and Series 60 2.0
3.
Especially those with UI (user interface), sound and graphic effects
I still don't know what this means.
4.Your comparison about a PC OS and an Embeded OS is very wrong,this is why:Smartphones are connected to the public phone network and use a shared resource (the radio spectrum, which is regulated), PCs are not and do not.
Smartphones require type approval by telecom regulators and more or less extensive testing by operators,PCs do not.
You can install a new OS on a PC by yourself without needing a license or any kind of a approval.If a mobile phone maker makes big changes to the firmware or god forbid,installs a completely new OS on the device, it will require a new type approval. Because phones are much smaller than PCs, it is necesssary to leave out a lot of the flexibility in the hardware design so you can not upgrade the the RAM or any kind of hardware component on a smartphone as easly you would on a PC.
So no,there is not a big difference between an Embedded OS and a PC OS,the difference is huge.
5.Because developers want to make money.BTW:They started making 6600 "compatible" versions of applications after the complains of zilions of users.
6.The Siemens SX1 is not one year old and it has been official for a couple of months now and its pretty stable and i bet you haven't even used one.Do you know when the 6600 was announced,and according to you,how old is it?
Credits to BentL for some parts of this post.
Originally posted by NewForce6. Yes I would agreed with Mr. MemphisX that 6600 was of a bit rush-released.
But then a rush-released 6600 is much stable then any of Siemens big-buggy phones especially the 1 year old
and still yet to be officia release SX-1.
Ok here comes my part. I don't know but sometimes reading things like that on places I love MAKES ME MAD because some people cannot judge with FACTS but only want to protect their property, even if their property (or better say the creator of their property - here is Nokia) is allready against them. What am I saying?
It's clear that although 6600 is a good phone it cannot COMPETE. So in order to protect our investment we deny the truth. Telling that all Siemens phones are buggy is a big claim.
Let me ask you another question. When the new 6620 (and ofcourse the 6600i or whatever they call it for the European Market) comes out, what will you have to say then? For a company that is a rule to shit on their customers, to create faster a new product than making an older more stable I don't really understand if we still have to support their efforts. (If anyone doesn't know 6620 is FASTER,has EDGE,BETTER cammera-camcorder app,the new RealOne intergrated,has also POP-PORT/ the very first Nokia s60 device to have one, and also has 12MB internal memory instead of 6MB). By the way from the mouth of Nokia both 6600 and 6620 were developed together. So they just launched first the 6600 to get the easy and quick money and then to their American friends the better 6620.It won't be long until we see the European version. They've done it with the 9210 (9290-9210i). Why not with 6600.
And speaking again about compatibility, there are many apps that still not running. Beside the Symbian C++ apps the big advantage of the new version of JAVA became a compatibility disadvantage.
And as Ghostdog mentioned don't compare phones to PCs and especially Win2000. The leap from 6.1 to 7.0 was not so big. (Example)We don't speak of jumping from DOS to UNIX but rather from Windows 98 to Windows ME.
PS: How long is the warranty for Nokia devices in your country? Here in Greece it's only one year. SIEMENS? 2 YEARS...