I'm a fan of the X and X2, and really want to see Sendo succeed, but Sendo better have something good up their sleeves to combat Nokia's new N-Series phones.
http://www.nokia.com/nseries/
Take the N91 for example, a potential competitor to the X2. Technically better in every way than the X2, including the screen, camera, a built in HD, and 3G, it's probably going to be a high-end premium product with a price to match. And it weighs 160g with the X2 just over half the weight.
Yes, as someone will inevitably say, there will always be something newer and better out there. Let's just hope Sendo design that fact into the specifications and release dates of their forthcoming X series phones. I can just see the X2 coming out late at the same time as the N91, and for a premium price (despite the low price rumours). The decision will be pretty easy then.
So, here's to a low-priced, on-time released, bug-free (more or less) X2 that appeals to everyman in the street, and further X phones that measure up well to the competition with specifications 6 months in the future, not 6 months in the past.
I think the N70 is probably a closer competitor to the X2, it's specs are closer than the X91.
It's always part of the problem, the second one company produces something, the others do too...
More to the point, is how these phones stand up to the rumoured X3. As Nokia won't be releasing any of these until at least Q3, the X2 should get quite a jump in sales on them, and being 2.5G only, it's not a direct competitor anyway...
I think the slider on the N70 would get on my nerves very quickly, the N90 seems like an over complicated remake of the already good 6260 and as for the N91, it reminds of the 7650, which don't blow me away first time round...
Now the X2 on the other hand....My only whinge would be that it uses Symbian 6.1 - an upgrade to 7.0 or 8.0 would make it unbeatable. It also needs a keyboard adaptor.
😊 I was just talking to someone in the know, and apparently the people at Nokia love the X2 for it's design, size and weight!
Pity Nokia can't produce anything that good looking 😊
stuclark wrote:😊 I was just talking to someone in the know, and apparently the people at Nokia love the X2 for it's design, size and weight!Pity Nokia can't produce anything that good looking 😊
Common, even I that I don't like Nokia phones have changed my mind with N91's desing (and specs) and it is going to be my next phone (although I've promised to myself not to buy another Nokia phone).
At least for me N91 looks better than X2 (it just reminds me of the old 8850 beauty).
I agree, I love the N91. Specs and design. WLAN, the newest symbian S60 version. The design is great, especially since I'm more in the metal covers. This thing surpasses the X2 on every aspect, imo. If it had a qwerty keyboard and quadband-GSM it would have been perfect.
This one might change my mind about switching over to a Windows OS smartphone. But I'm guessing we're talking about Communicator prices here....
Just have to win the lottery then 😉
I like the N91 also. My fav feature has got to be the music player and Visual FM radio
Check out http://www.visualradio.com
I agree, the N-series inspires some serious techno lust. But funnily enough I think I prefer an X2, at least for the time being. The design is fantastic - the features to weight ratio is almost unsurpassed (The lighter Windows Smartphones have one major problem - they run Windows Smartphone. Nuff said). The N91 is a chunky beast (and how many drops before the HD dies?) and is going to cost �450 without contract. Ouch.
Lets have some common sense out of Sendo here - bring it out as on time as possible, for an affordable price, and for goodness sake market the thing! Great products can fail because of crap marketing (Commodore Amiga) while crap products succeed because of great marketing (Microsoft Windows). Learn the lesson!
Thirded (is that possible?)
stuclark wrote:😊 I was just talking to someone in the know, and apparently the people at Nokia love the X2 for it's design, size and weight!Pity Nokia can't produce anything that good looking 😊
This is really not worth commenting, but I can't hold back!!
Reading what you state above I wonder what kind of medication you
currently are on Clark!?!???? Kryptonite?
The X or the X2 is'nt even close to look as good as the N70...
The X2 looks like a toy for kids coming out of an "Kinder Egg"
When it comes to specifications? Well, that is too obvious to comment..
well well well...it seems some people are simply NOT capable of saying anything without making an insult out of it!
No, Mr. Mesus, I'm not on any medication, not even any to stop me wanting to put you in your place. I'll simply keep this forum to the point of the forum, and talk about the phones!
Yes, the N70 looks good, but I don't think it's as nice as the X2 (it's certainly much bigger and heavier!). Have you even seen a real X2???
I'm surprised about WLAN making an appearence in a Series 60 - my concern is that with it being something of a new technology, will there be a lot of support for it.
Price will be colossal, as will demand...
WLAN is already in Series 80, which is based on Symbian. Also, I belive that Symbian 9 (which Series 60 version 3 is built on) also includes a lot of support for it as standard.
I think it's a good thing - if it can be made to work as seamlessley as GPRS and WCDMA data, then it could make the average "phone" into a far more useful "personal device".
That is one thing in the new N series which is seriously tempting 😊, but Motorola are doing it as well with the A1100.
Hmmm...I don't have a great deal of faith in Motorola - the MPx was almost vapourware - either way its taken a long time and its bigger than a 9500.. 😮
messus wrote:This is really not worth commenting, but I can't hold back!!Reading what you state above I wonder what kind of medication you
currently are on Clark!?!???? Kryptonite?
The X or the X2 is'nt even close to look as good as the N70...
The X2 looks like a toy for kids coming out of an "Kinder Egg"
When it comes to specifications? Well, that is too obvious to comment..
I DON'T know u guys compare THE COLOSSUS NOKIA with the pity
bug sendo 😃
Nutzu wrote:I DON'T know u guys compare THE COLOSSUS NOKIA with the pity bug sendo 😃
I am not sure if I get what you mean here, but my point is; starting a thread
called "Sendo X-series vs. Nokia N-series" makes no point at all, because
the difference in both hardware specifications and also design makes these
two brands/phones two different worlds...
But I believe this is also what the person who started the thread means,
Sendo better have something really really special up their sleeves to
match this, and not only Sendo, but every other phone manufacturer also!
If you want a slow, mediocre phone based on an outdated version of
the Symbian S60, and are a person with mediocre needs, then the
X or X2 should be sufficient.
If you want state of the art technology, the fastest processor, best features
and software compatibility, then choose the N70.. And in my opinion, the
slickest best business silver look is also the N70..
Simple as that!
messus wrote:I am not sure if I get what you mean here, but my point is; starting a thread
called "Sendo X-series vs. Nokia N-series" makes no point at all, because
the difference in both hardware specifications and also design makes these
two brands/phones two different worlds...But I believe this is also what the person who started the thread means,
Sendo better have something really really special up their sleeves to
match this, and not only Sendo, but every other phone manufacturer also!
If you want a slow, mediocre phone based on an outdated version of
the Symbian S60, and are a person with mediocre needs, then the
X or X2 should be sufficient.
If you want state of the art technology, the fastest processor, best features
and software compatibility, then choose the N70.. And in my opinion, the
slickest best business silver look is also the N70..
Simple as that!
seams that u got my point here but mine was short 😊 and about N70 ..... my next baby 🙄
Bear in mind that Nokia has been around for a lot longer than Sendo, and that Nokia is the original developer of Series 60 (and Symbian) Smartphones, so of course they have the upper hand when it comes to research and development. Do you call Samsung a "pity bug" because they have a smaller number of Smartphones compared to Nokia?
The point about the old OS is a sore point though and while the X2 will still be running the old OS, hopefully the X3 when it appears will be running a more up-to-date OS.
Oh, and before you start saying the new Nokias can do no wrong, they run Symbian 9, which will require developers to completely redo their exsisting apps to make them compatible. Aside from which, do you have any idea how big they'll be. The whole point of a smartphone is that its small enough to be used as a regular phone with PDA abilities, not a bloody great lump you have to carry around in a satchel (owners of the Sony Ericsson P-Series and Nokia Communicator owners will know what I'm talking about).
Masamune wrote:Bear in mind that Nokia has been around for a lot longer than Sendo, and that Nokia is the original developer of Series 60 (and Symbian) Smartphones, so of course they have the upper hand when it comes to research and development. Do you call Samsung a "pity bug" because they have a smaller number of Smartphones compared to Nokia?The point about the old OS is a sore point though and while the X2 will still be running the old OS, hopefully the X3 when it appears will be running a more up-to-date OS.
Oh, and before you start saying the new Nokias can do no wrong, they run Symbian 9, which will require developers to completely redo their exsisting apps to make them compatible. Aside from which, do you have any idea how big they'll be. The whole point of a smartphone is that its small enough to be used as a regular phone with PDA abilities, not a bloody great lump you have to carry around in a satchel (owners of the Sony Ericsson P-Series and Nokia Communicator owners will know what I'm talking about).
Only the N91 is running OS9 😉
And I don't care who have been around the longest and has the upper hand,
I just want the best smartphone!! I have no sympathy what so ever for Sendo!!
messus wrote:Only the N91 is running OS9 😉
Well that's wrong! All of them will be - they're using the same base software!
Symbian 9 is a big step, both for Series 60 and for Symbian OS itself (if you don't know, go look it up) - apart from every app. needing to be re-written, a lot else changed! Sendo's "stick" with 6.1 on the X2 was a calculated, and in my opinion, very clever move on their part. It's still *the most* compatible version of Series 60 yet out!
Hold your breaths for the X3 - from what I've heard, you'll love it!
stuclark wrote:Well that's wrong! All of them will be - they're using the same base software!Symbian 9 is a big step, both for Series 60 and for Symbian OS itself (if you don't know, go look it up) - apart from every app. needing to be re-written, a lot else changed! Sendo's "stick" with 6.1 on the X2 was a calculated, and in my opinion, very clever move on their part. It's still *the most* compatible version of Series 60 yet out!
Hold your breaths for the X3 - from what I've heard, you'll love it!
i think u are brain washed by sendo(u are a pupy now),u say that 6.1 version is the *most compatible*( Is the older version of the Series 60 platform ,from earlier Nokia Series 60 phones like e.g. the N3650)wow now u make my day :hahaha: u don't know what are u talking about, u don't see ppl around with u'r sendo x that are strugling to make it work with some poor apps,and is full of rebots and problems common
WAKE UP IS 2005 😃
stuclark wrote:Well that's wrong! All of them will be - they're using the same base software!
N70 & N90 will be based on "Series 60 2nd Edition Feature Pack 3" (2.8) and Symbian OS 8.1a. N91 will be based on "Series 60 3rd Edition" (3.0) and Symbian OS 9.1 (
http://forum.nokia.com/n70http://forum.nokia.com/n90http://forum.nokia.com/n91stuclark wrote:Well that's wrong! All of them will be - they're using the same base software!Symbian 9 is a big step, both for Series 60 and for Symbian OS itself (if you don't know, go look it up) - apart from every app. needing to be re-written, a lot else changed! Sendo's "stick" with 6.1 on the X2 was a calculated, and in my opinion, very clever move on their part. It's still *the most* compatible version of Series 60 yet out!
Hold your breaths for the X3 - from what I've heard, you'll love it!
Clark you are wrong! Only the N91 will be running on OS9, the other two N90/N70
will be running the most compatible OS8...
OS6.1 the most compatible??? You must be kidding, have you been asleep or
have you not been reading this forum??
Althoug OS9 contains some cool improvements, like stereo bluetooth audio,
I would still prefer to run OS8 to be able to run aaaaallllll the cooooool
applications that won't run on either OS9 or OS6.1.
Have a nice day.
http://www.symbian.com/phones/index.html#nokia_n91
Nutzu wrote:i think u are brain washed by sendo(u are a pupy now),u say that 6.1 version is the *most compatible*( Is the older version of the Series 60 platform ,from earlier Nokia Series 60 phones like e.g. the N3650)wow now u make my day :hahaha: u don't know what are u talking about, u don't see ppl around with u'r sendo x that are strugling to make it work with some poor apps,and is full of rebots and problems common WAKE UP IS 2005 😃
Haha, if not brainwashed Clark must be on the payroll of Sendo!
If not, Sendo should hire him straight away, because a more unconditional
brand loyal person I have never come across in my entire life!!
Oh My God! I got something wrong! Shock Horror!
It's a pity some members on this board (actually two of the same people who have been trying to cause trouble for months) have to act quite so childishly about things!
Mesus, Nitzu do try to gain some maturity!
stuclark wrote:Oh My God! I got something wrong! Shock Horror!It's a pity some members on this board (actually two of the same people who have been trying to cause trouble for months) have to act quite so childishly about things!
Mesus, Nitzu do try to gain some maturity!
two words*WAKE UP* 😃,u are brain washed,btw my nickname is
NUTZU NOT NITZU 😃 and i don't know what problems i caused telling ppl how good u'r sendo x is and correcting u from time to time because u are loosing it 😃 :hahaha:
Well, all I can say is thank you messus and nutcase (sorry nutzu) for being here. It means the three billy goats can cross the bridge without being impeded...
Seriously, what is your beef with Sendo? Do you have something against Nokia's competition? It is still early days for Sendo as a smartphone manufacturer - I think the X3 could be a real step forward. If the rumours are true about the X2 coming in at �150, it would make the ideal first step for people curious about Symbian smartphones, as the original X was for me.
There's nothing wrong with brand loyalty in the world of IT - my particular loyalties are basically anything without a Windows logo on it. I don't have anything against Nokia or their new phones, which are pretty good. However, that is not a valid or logical reason to start having a go at Sendo and no amount of smilies or terrible spelling will change that.
Sorry, but that deserves a smilie 😊
Masamune wrote:Well, all I can say is thank you messus and nutcase (sorry nutzu) for being here. It means the three billy goats can cross the bridge without being impeded...Seriously, what is your beef with Sendo? Do you have something against Nokia's competition? It is still early days for Sendo as a smartphone manufacturer - I think the X3 could be a real step forward. If the rumours are true about the X2 coming in at �150, it would make the ideal first step for people curious about Symbian smartphones, as the original X was for me.
There's nothing wrong with brand loyalty in the world of IT - my particular loyalties are basically anything without a Windows logo on it. I don't have anything against Nokia or their new phones, which are pretty good. However, that is not a valid or logical reason to start having a go at Sendo and no amount of smilies or terrible spelling will change that.
good for u
MASAPULE ups Masamune u and
stucpupy can be cuple 😃,i don't have nothing against nokia or other manufacturer,but i have something against sendo(i bought the phone and i lost money around 400$,good god i sold it but was to late i feel pity on that guy who bought it anyway he sold after a week)who sell garbage phones making ppl spending they'r money to try a phone who doesn't do nothing that a smartphone does,like messus says *If you want a slow, mediocre phone based on an outdated version of
the Symbian S60, and are a person with mediocre needs, then the
X or X2 should be sufficient. *,and i think masapule(soory masamune)is my right to flame them,and i don't think is right to compare NOKIA with .........let's say sendo.
PACE I'ALL AND LOVE EACHOTHER 😃 ..sendo rules