Ok, This worked for me and now my ttm5 hasnt crashed once on my N70! Previously i had a BT77 Receiver and had nothing but problems, but I have fixed this problem with the following chain of events............
First of all, I bought myself a Tom Tom Bluetooth GPS Mk2, This also crashed/dropped bluetooth connection at first, So the bt77 might have worked.
Second and MOST IMPORTANT (this stops the crashing/connectiopn dropping) let TomTom pair the device to the phone itself, After using TomTom go into your phones "CONNECTIONS" folder then "BLUETOOTH" You need to make sure that the GPS Device is NOT PAIRED and if it is, DELETE IT! Everytime you exit tomtom. When you restart TomTom you will be asked for your pairing code and to accept connections, annoying, but at least it works! 😊
Hi, sounds like you got a fix, I have also been using Bt-77 and drops off every 5-10 mins. I was coming to same conclusion that TT GPS would be possible solution. Thanks for your advice and I shall try this as would prefer to keep with TT5 than switch to R66, which was my next option....thanks for your advice 😊
proact wrote:Hi, sounds like you got a fix, I have also been using Bt-77 and drops off every 5-10 mins. I was coming to same conclusion that TT GPS would be possible solution. Thanks for your advice and I shall try this as would prefer to keep with TT5 than switch to R66, which was my next option....thanks for your advice 😊
Have you tried the method he posted above with your BT-77 and if so what was the result?
Hi, yes I did but same problem arises when trying this with BT-77, after a while freezes and required full restart on phone! Very annoying as when it works it works perfectly, just short term!! I am still hoping there will be a more permanent and less fiddly fix from Nokia or TT. Regards.
Hmmmm. Ignore my first message. It stops the crashing/freezing, but not the bluetooth connection dropping, TT5 is totally un-usable after connection has droppped forcing a full restart anyway! I GIVE UP! Think i might try Route 66 instead!
What a shame, although was not an ideal fix, would at least be tolerable....I am switching to R66 now, until Nokia or TT come up with support or a patch/ crack to sort this annoying problem out!! Good luck.!
i think i have fixed it!!
Turn the phone in to off line mode before starting tomtom and it seems fine been using it like this for a couple of weeks whilst i was in australia and its worked fine every time i have used it! again a pain in the ass but some times navigation is better than phone calls:icon14:
I have the Nokia N70 with Tomtom mobile 5 original software and mkII gps unit. I had problems with the bluetooth signal out when I let the phone find the gps unit.
Having read various forums I found that when I deleted the pairing for the tomtom unit from the phone and just let the unit find the phone everything works fine.
It did start playing up again at one point so I checked the pairings list on the phone and low and behold there it was, after deleting it all was well again.
Hope this helps
Alan
So is it worth buying then? I want something that works. Does TTM5 have a 7 digit postcode search function?
Cheers
Yes tomtom does accept seven digit postcodes, now I have solved the connection problem I think it is well worth the �200 pound I paid.
There was a short time when I thought differently and was glad I hadn't sold my Navman 610. Tomtom wins hands down with the postcode option.:icon14:
swat47 wrote:Hmmmm. Ignore my first message. It stops the crashing/freezing, but not the bluetooth connection dropping, TT5 is totally un-usable after connection has droppped forcing a full restart anyway! I GIVE UP! Think i might try Route 66 instead!
Hi swat47,
I was close to giving up also, but give it one last try as described below...
Before each journey...
1. Reboot the phone
2. Delete ALL BT pairings
3. Activate the OFFLINE profile on the phone
4. Launch TomTom
5. Enter the pin 0000 for the OFFICIAL TomTom receiver.
I have just completed a 90 minute journey and the phone didn't crash, and the BT connection was not lost even once.
Hope this helps!
Dez 🙄
Havnt tried offline mode, tried everything else tho! Thanks for the suggestion. I'll let u know how it goes! Got a 200mile drive in 2 weeks! NOISE AND CONFUSION, CARDIFF!!!!!!
Talk soon!
So has anyone got this to work with a 3rd party GPS unit using the offline method? I'm looking to purchase a GPS unit but i'd rather go with the Holux 236 (as it has WAAS and holds a signal better) than the TomTom receiver.
Ok, as no one has replied i'll phrase the question another way. Has anyone using a 3rd party GPS receiver tried the offline method and what was the result?
If anyone has an opinion of which GPS receiver to get that would also be appreciated. I'd also be interested in what the accuracy is like on the official TomTom GPS receiver?
Cheers.
Ive heard Rikaline are good! Not sure with N70 though. My tom tom gps mkII is just as accurate as any other device, I would say it connects far faster and has a much stronger signal than my old BT77.
swat47 wrote:Ive heard Rikaline are good! Not sure with N70 though. My tom tom gps mkII is just as accurate as any other device, I would say it connects far faster and has a much stronger signal than my old BT77.
Well the reviews seem to show it as the worse (in terms of accuracy) SiRFstarIII based receiver http://ck37.image.pbase.com/image/50003648/original.jpg As you can see in that pic it's providing half the points the others do. I'm just not keen on paying a premium just for the name. Especially when it doesn't have WAAS. Maybe though in real life it doesn't make that much of a difference?
Well I seem to be fine ok without any patches....
I just:
Reboot my phone
Turn on the TT GPS receiver
Activate TomTom on the phone
It asks for the code - 0000
It asks if it's ok to pair - I say yes!
And away I go...
No need for undoing any pairings after either.....
I brought my Nokia N70 from phones4u two weeks ago and have been battling with the same tomtom/gps problems everyone else has been having.
The good thing that was going to work for me was that P4U had told me that tomtom was compatiable with the N70. Even though we all know it works the official line is that it is NOT YET compatiable and with this I went back to P4U and said that they had miss sold the phone to me and I wanted to know what they was going to do about it?
After explaining all the problems including the gps/bluetooth connection issues he told me that he was going to task someone to investigate. I got a call from another member of his staff telling me that they were going to be calling Nokia and TomTom direct and find out what was going on.
After an hour I received a call back from P4U and she told what Nokia had told her which was......
TomTom Mobile 5 WILL WORK on the Nokia N70 (Already known but why not official) and that the gps/bluetooth problem is down to pairing
ALL pairing in the phone whether it be to a PC, Headset ect MUST be deleted and NO pairing to be in the paring sub-folder. Once all has been deleted, and once activated, TomTom will connect itself to your gps receiver and work as it's supposed to :icon14:
Just remember to configure your receiver in the 'Change Preferences' section. Dont be alarmed if it's still not connecting, just try to plot a route......when I did this the gps receiver started to work and my poistion was found.
Play around with this to get it to work.
Well done to everyone who found this out along time ago.....you did all the leg work for Nokia who probably read this forum for the problems that they have yet to discover 😊
Very nice, but I already have got this to work without having to delete my other paired devices! This is what I did;
When you shall disconnect the bt-gps and tomtom, you must first shutdown the gps. Then when the tomtom software reports "no gps unit" - you can shutdown tomtom software.
When I do the above there is no problems with connecting the receiver again.
Others with success on trying this?
On the strength of Frosty's comments I am buying it for Christmas. I've waited to see whether TOM TOM would come up with a patch or something and I dont like any alternatives - TT really is the best.
I called TT and they said they were aware of the problem and wouldnt advise me to buy it, but hey it really does seem to be this curable problem - so I think they are being over cautious. It seems from this forum that the ones having major problems are mostly using third party software and different GPS units. I guess thats the downfall of buying something cheap off ebay!
I hope im not dissapointed as I'm shelling out nearly �200. I guess if I go to a store online that says its compatible then i have some comeback if it goes wrong??!! I have already seen 2 stores that say it is and I'll pay a bit more for that guarantee!
OK - now where can I get it online the cheapest in time for xmas?!!
Just purchased TT5 from Orange shop. I asked if it was compatible and they said 'yes' after checking!
I will give it a go and report my findings...
If they were wrong and it doesnt work then I'll be taking it straight back.
Stay tuned
:redface:
Tried TT on my N70 Online, Offline, All the stuff i said at the start of this thread! tried switching my receiver off while TT is still on, STILL CRASHES!!!! its p*****g me right off!!!!!!!!!!
I had an idea that maybe when network operators flash the phone with their crap, that maybe this is what messes tom tom up. I am on 3 (Three Mobile). Has anyone else bought an N70 from 3 in the last 4 weeks and tried tom tom on it??? It seems that most people who have tom tom working are on orange. WE WILL GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS! I WILL MAKE IT MY MISSION! Keep me updated!
Expect another post soon!
swat47
swat47 wrote:Tried TT on my N70 Online, Offline, All the stuff i said at the start of this thread! tried switching my receiver off while TT is still on, STILL CRASHES!!!! its p*****g me right off!!!!!!!!!!
swat47
Try launching TomTom on your N70 whilst stationary (i.e. in your house with the GPS receiver on a window ledge) and I think you will find the GPS signal will stay active for hours, until the battery goes flat).
My experience is TomTom only crashes or loses the GPS signal whilst the car/etc is in motion.
I think both Nokia and TomTom will have to produce a firmware upgrade & TT patch to make the product fully compatible with the N70 - and fingers crossed it's real soon!
Hello
News firmware 3.0546.2.3 is released.
Does it works with BT GPS & TOMTOM5 ?
Also I wanna know if we can use in the same time and without problems a bluetooth kit car (CK7W) and tomtom bt gps ?
Thanks 😃
Hi,
I've updated my firmware for the N70 to Version 3.0546.2.3 today.
Unfortuanely it hasn't resolved TomTom losing a Bluetooth GPS connection.
It has however made the setup a bit more "Stable" i.e If it loses the connection the whole phone does not lock up and I do not have to disable / re-enable bluetooth in order for me to try again.
It doesn't still seem to like a paired BT connection that TomTom hasn't setup itself, So I need to delete any bluetooth pairings. When TT is launched, it either starts communication with the BT device and then locks up later on, or if it asks to be paired it works just FINE ! Problem is that I can not always get it to ask for the pairing (???).
Fed up & P*ssed off. I would really love to see N70 & TT Mobile be friends.
One good thing is that I got my phone flashed with a Standard non orange firmware, So at last a don't have to put up with the Crap today screen of Oranges 😊
Anyone got any ideas ?
N70 - Emtac BT receiver - TT5
In using the method you describe, it works fine if TT5 asks for the pairing, and then I pair it, but if it does not request pairing and starts working without it, it will crash later on.
I still haven't figured out why TT5 asks for the pairing at times and at other times it doesn't. Obviously I make sure that I delete any pairing before I start this procedure.
Any ideas ?
Ash_99 wrote: I make sure that I delete any pairing before I start this procedure.Any ideas ?
Hi Ash,
Many thanks for the handy tip! I will make the pairing delete part of my process from now on.
Cheers,
Dez
V3.0546.2.3 18-11-05 RM-84
just got the n70 and tomtom just wont work , as soon as it finds and requests the code for bluetooth then it crashes phone has to be rebooted !
app version is 4.400 (285) GPS driver V1.2
Help !
I suggest you contact the guys at TomTom Support. If theres enough of us nagging them, they might start giving out some proper answers.
Greetz (first post!)
Am I correct in thinking any outstanding issues with TomTom 5 and the N70 are now resolved... lookie here http://www.tomtom.com/support/compatibility.php?ID=69
