P800 TIPS & TRICKS!

why we dowload this sofware "webviewer"

the p800 have the web inclu in the phone we have not need this one

Try to compare the WebViewer to the built in P800 browser and you will see why. 😉

It's about twice as fast and it's easier to use for just browsing.
Besides, it recognizes the Bluetooth connection without any hassle.

How do you do this on a mac with macosx

You need webviewer because its better and the builtin browser recognizes your operator GPRS setings and uses them to connect to net.
About the mac issue? All you need to do is setup internet sharing on your box and folow the steps described by Raven.

Another nice trick: to get access to the service menu, use the following combination: turn jog dial up ,*,down, down,*,down,*

[quote="Rear_Admiral"]Another nice trick: to get access to the service menu, use the following combination: turn jog dial up ,*,down, down,*,down,*[/quote]

gr8 tips!

Gino

[quote="Raven"]Try to compare the WebViewer to the built in P800 browser and you will see why. 😉

It's about twice as fast and it's easier to use for just browsing.
Besides, it recognizes the Bluetooth connection without any hassle.[/quote]

The Webviewer MIDP app does all access towards a dedicated proxy server owned by its vendor, from how I understand this it never directly accesses a web server. That's how they can display a 500k JPG off a page in a few seconds, the size reduction takes place on the proxy and only data appropriate for the actual device gets sent over, they can use whatever private protocol between the proxy and browser. This principle was a hot topic in research a few years a ago. Seems this browser is among the first for mobile devices that exploit this. Since all traffic flow through the vendors server all sorts of data mining techniques and tollgating could be applied by such a browser vendor.

I'm sure that it is the case with .pdf files.I dont think that they use their proxy server for normal browsing.

[quote="GhostDog"]I'm sure that it is the case with .pdf files.I dont think that they use their proxy server for normal browsing.[/quote]

With WV you can just see a little subset of HTML tags, so this is the first compression WV make, also I think they could use a bXML protocol to reduce more the BW. And, more, you see a reduced version of every image you load, in size and in bit-depth (look at WV settings).
The result is a more quick browser than the internal...

You can see also a new (coming) version of Opera with this approach:
http://www.opera.com/products/smartphone/smallscreen/

Gino

[quote="Rear_Admiral"]Another nice trick: to get access to the service menu, use the following combination: turn jog dial up ,*,down, down,*,down,*[/quote]

How the H$!! did you figure that out, amazing...

hihihi
why do you make this
go to the applications
tape view
after system information
and for the emei on the flip tape *#06#

[quote="Link"][quote="Rear_Admiral"]Another nice trick: to get access to the service menu, use the following combination: turn jog dial up ,*,down, down,*,down,*[/quote]

How the H$!! did you figure that out, amazing...[/quote]

All Ericsson phones had the same code to access the service menu:

> * < < * < * (Where < & > are the arrow keys)

Just translate them into the jog dial rotational directions! 😊

Hi,,
Ok i downLoaded the

WebViewer

I downLoaded the

WebViewer.jad
WebViewer.jar

How do i install them on the p800 ? :\

thanks

Hello,

You just have to transfer the .jar file to your P800. You can do this using IR, Bluetooth, USB or just send the file to your phone as an e-mail attachment.

Has anyone tried the "5. Format internal disk" option?! 😃

good work how do i sync my p800 to apple ge osx10x

[quote="Rear_Admiral"]Another nice trick: to get access to the service menu, use the following combination: turn jog dial up ,*,down, down,*,down,*[/quote]

Where do I input this sequence?

[quote="SAFE"][quote="Rear_Admiral"]Another nice trick: to get access to the service menu, use the following combination: turn jog dial up ,*,down, down,*,down,*[/quote]

Where do I input this sequence?[/quote]

In flip closed mode 😊

test

Hi all

I've just order a MSI dongle from scan.co.uk.

When you have setup the phone and PC and they talk to each other
how do you configure your PC to connect to the internet when its gets
a request from the BT enabled p800.

I take it your basically using your PC as the internet gateway here, but
how does this work in practice.

Thanks

Ian 😃

You cannot initiate a BT serial port connection from the P800, you have to start the connection from your PC. And when you have a stable BT serial port connection between your PC and P800, simply open the P800 Opera browser, and off you go surfing through your PC's ADSL(or whatever)connection. Simple as that. 😊

I'm having some issues getting this running under Linux. I have a working BT connection using the BlueZ stack, and I can get my P800 connected (with the <> sign beside the Bluetooth image), but as soon as I start WV it starts GPRS, too.

Am I missing something really obvious here?

Well, it normally should choose BT/DSL over GPRS(Opera and WebViewer).

Do you have internet sharing enabled on you PC?

But if you have a PC, with a broadband net connection and are within (what) 10 feet of it for the bluetooth connection to work, why are you bothering to browse the web on the P800 when the PC, with a chuffing great screen and full speed access (as oppose to BT speed) is sat right next to you?

Other than 'because you can', which is OK for about 30 seconds then starts seeming a bit pointless after that.

Is this webviewer app any better than Opera P800?

As to Mac OS 10, there is no Ericsson software for that OS nor would I hold your breath for it to arrive. However, Apple and SE do have a good relationship, and Apple's inbuilt iCal and iSync software work well with the T68i. I haven't tried it with my P800 yet (I don't have a BT adapter for my Mac) but if they don't work with the P800 now, they will very soon. That's if you've got 10.2...

does the BT connection from the phone go thou ports like 8080 instead
of 80.
The reason why I ask is because I have a outbound proxy server on
8080 and so the p800 will hit it on port 80 instead of 8080.

Can you tell the p800 to change its ports

Raven - the Linux box that my BT dongle is on is my firewall/router/ADSL connected box. It has access to the ADSL connection, and I didn't think I needed to do any more, but now you mention it... I'll check when I get home.

Jonbwfc - there is certainly an element of 'because I can', however if someone else is using that PC, I'm in another room or outside (where I do get BT connection) then it would be useful. Additionally, I have my P800 set to check for mail on a regular basis. Given that it uses 2.4k to check that nothing is there, I can see some small bandwidth savings.

Friends also run BT in their flat and have broadband, so, again more flexibility and potential reduction in expenditure. 😊

[quote="jonbwfc"]But if you have a PC, with a broadband net connection and are within (what) 10 feet of it for the bluetooth connection to work, why are you bothering to browse the web on the P800 when the PC, with a chuffing great screen and full speed access (as oppose to BT speed) is sat right next to you?

Other than 'because you can', which is OK for about 30 seconds then starts seeming a bit pointless after that.

Is this webviewer app any better than Opera P800?

As to Mac OS 10, there is no Ericsson software for that OS nor would I hold your breath for it to arrive. However, Apple and SE do have a good relationship, and Apple's inbuilt iCal and iSync software work well with the T68i. I haven't tried it with my P800 yet (I don't have a BT adapter for my Mac) but if they don't work with the P800 now, they will very soon. That's if you've got 10.2...[/quote]

Actually the BT range is approx. 10 meters(not feet) and it can go through walls, so if you have your PC upstairs and bedroom downstairs you can browse the web and check your mail(without having to use expensive GPRS) before you go to sleep. That's just one suggestion, and of course it might not be so usefull to everyone, but I think it's kinda fun, and if you have a program on your P800 which requires GPRS for updating, streaming, downloading etc you can use it through BT/IR/USB instead, quite usefull and a money saver I think.

And, no, WebViewer was just an alternative before we got Opera. WebViewer is written in Java and doesn't take use of the entire screen, and it doesn't have all the features of Opera.

Cheers.

I am not clear how to connect p800 with pc?
dial up, lan access or serial port connection?
How do you do this? from PC or from p800 to initiate the connection?

Thanks in advance
my email address is
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bluetooth passthrough internet access apparently only works on systems running the SE proxy stack, which is part of the SE software suite... so if you're using OSX or *nix you might be out of luck.