kontraband wrote:Not totally no, Vodafone CEO spoke a couple of days ago about having the iphone available thru them soon. (months not weeks that is)
Interesting! Missed that one.
I bet they applied some leverage because for some time O2 having been going to be the sole supplier. O2 won't like it!
pa49 wrote:Interesting! Missed that one.
I bet they applied some leverage because for some time O2 having been going to be the sole supplier. O2 won't like it!
well I think it was only a few weeks ago Voda said they WOULDNT get the iphone... then he pops up at a meeting on the continent and says they may well be getting it...
I'll see if I can find the source...
lookie here:
http://stuff.tv/news/vodafone-iphone-still-possible/default.aspx
Quote from O2 website-
"When Apple named O2 as its exclusive carrier partner in the UK, it made perfect sense. Apple and O2 value the very same things: innovation, reliability and unparalleled customer satisfaction."
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
PMSL
I suppose Apple approached the other carriers, but they said that they valued old, unreliable technology and making their customers as unhappy as possible? 😉
When iPhone was released I was excited as a school girl released onto summer break with a mini skirt and headed for the beach.
Then I heard it had NO MMS. Die iPhone, and your lack of picture messaging that many FREE phones have. Anyone who calls this phone a smartphone is ignorant to what a true smart phone is.
My 6682 rapes the iPhone in almost every aspect of functionality.
6682 vs iPhone
MMS w/ 1.3 MP Camera iPhone Nothing
2GB removable Storage vs 8GB in house: Tie (since removable can surpass stand alone.
Battery Life-6692 Hands down.
Text Editor
Wallet and expense functions
Lens Cover
Music Playback - I have playlists, you have playlists. Fail.
and the list goes on...this is against a phone that is 3 years old!!!!
Also, yeah the iphone has a touch screen...that is great for web browsing...until your greasy ass fingers smudge the shit out of it.
the iPhone is just the "new shiny" thing on the market and drones of people who bought it based on hype alone. You know why there was a price drop? Because they did not sell as many as they wanted to seeing as how people were unveiling its many faults within the hour of its release.
Sad.
anurok wrote:My 6682 rapes the iPhone in almost every aspect of functionality.
Sad.
Ouch, ouch and double ouch!
iPhone? iWince!
anurok wrote: << SNIP>> I was excited as a school girl released onto summer break with a mini skirt and headed for the beach.
HAHAHAHAHAH now THATS excitement! :icon14: How did you deal with the dissapointment?
kontraband wrote:HAHAHAHAHAH now THATS excitement! :icon14: How did you deal with the dissapointment?
Lol, I took 6682 in hand...and sent an MMS to EVERY iPhone owner I know with a picture that I drew in sharpie at work on some paper that said...
"LOL! No MMS For you!"
It was awesome
anurok wrote:Lol, I took 6682 in hand...and sent an MMS to EVERY iPhone owner I know with a picture that I drew in sharpie at work on some paper that said..."LOL! No MMS For you!"
It was awesome
Fantastic idea. Sadly I dont have any friends with iphones, good or bad thing?
I just started a thread from the perspective of an N95 user who just switched to iphone. I tried to avoid the usual fanboy purchase justifying rubbish, in fact the post was more about the N95 features I missed, how I almost switched back and was intended to inform people what the thing couldn't do, I for example didn't know the thing had no video camera until after i'd bought it.
But, the mods closed the thread anyway, what are they scared of?, anyway, i'll quote it her if it's of interest
I hope this isn't out of place here but just in case others are thinking about thisUntil recently I was a very satisfied N95 user. Probably using more of the features of the phone than most but recently, being up for a new contract, the fact i'd started using the internet on my phone and basic technolust made me buy an iPhone. Just in case anyone else is considering the same thing here are a few observations.
Iphone pros:
- That wonderful screen: almost twice the size and exactly twice the resolution.
- the touch controls: amazing, even the keyboard, while not wonderful, beats T9 predictive text hands down.
- Safari web browser, mail and map apps: all significantly better than N95 equivalents.
- Battery life: not amazing but twice the N95!
- the physical construction: Wonderful design, bigger but thinner, seemingly scratch proof screen, zero wasted space, no moving slider. Actually fits inside my Kevlar wallet and is the first phone I feel it's safe to skate with.
- Senheisser hands free with just a tiny answer button and mic rather than a stupid lapel clip remote and too much wire.
N95 pros:
- FM tuner: I used this a lot
- 5 megapixel camera: the iphone's isn't bad for 2MP but the thing's lens seems to be so warped that I can't even stitch a panorama out of several pics.
- GPS: Actually worked quite well when I'd installed Garmin XT
- Podcasting: Insanely, the N95 app is better than the iPhone's, which requires you to go via iTunes.
I'm sticking with the iphone but as a result, have had to get more into podcasts (to make up for the radio), i'm carrying my proper camera more and have un-retired my old Garmin Quest.
The only real reason to get one is if you are into mobile internet which, ironically, I wasn't until I was introduced to it a few months back when I upgraded my account on my N95.
The N95 is a great phone, i'm missing it a lot but not as much as i'm enjoying the iphone. I'm sure it'll make my son happy when he starts at secondary school this autumn though
Scared of nothing, if you look at that link I gave you will see so many on the same subject.
Theres little point having the same old discussion on the new thread.
I can gurantee that all the points have been discussed.
If your happy with the iphone, thats good. But Im not sure what your trying to accomplish given that the merits of each device has been discussed to death on here.
Fair enough, I guess I should have done a search. I did look back at several pages of threads and I have been reading (and occasionally contributing to) this forum for several months now. It never seemed to be drowning in iphone threads. Quite clearly I should have been here, in an irrelevantly titled six month dead thread. Actually, i'm being unfair, there was a far more appropriately titled iphone/N95 8GB thread that died a mere 9 weeks back, should have posted there I suppose.
I think, what I was trying to accomplish was to help people avoid wasting money on the iphone by pointing out what it couldn't do. I know very well that, though I like it more than the N95 it was very close and i'm very disapointed with the things it doesn't do. In fact the thing that swung it for me was the possiblity of developing games for the thing.
If I wasn't a coder and had had to pay a premium to get out of a contract, i'd be very dissapointed right now, however sexy the thing felt in my hand.
bartmanekul wrote:Scared of nothing, if you look at that link I gave you will see so many on the same subject.Theres little point having the same old discussion on the new thread.
I can gurantee that all the points have been discussed.
If your happy with the iphone, thats good. But Im not sure what your trying to accomplish given that the merits of each device has been discussed to death on here.
Quite clearly I should have been here, in an irrelevantly titled six month dead thread. Actually, i'm being unfair, there was a far more appropriately titled iphone/N95 8GB thread that died a mere 9 weeks back, should have posted there I suppose.
Old threads maybe, but as I showed there are loads of them about. Its not just iphone stuff that gets locked and told to look for similar threads, I recently did the same with a N95 v N95 8GB comparison thread.
Otherwise, it'll go over exactly the same arguments, and be a waste of time (and bandwidth I suppose).
I think, what I was trying to accomplish was to help people avoid wasting money on the iphone by pointing out what it couldn't do.
I understand, although I suspect that a lot of people on here know more about what the iphone cannot do than a lot of iphone owners, and I say that seriously.
Your average N95 owner is generally very interested in what a phone can do, and will reseach it beforehand.
Your average iphone user (again, from my expirence, obviously not all of them) seems to be mainly interested in how it looks and works, not what its got.
bartmanekul wrote:Your average N95 owner is generally very interested in what a phone can do, and will reseach it beforehand.Your average iphone user (again, from my expirence, obviously not all of them) seems to be mainly interested in how it looks and works, not what its got.
That's reasonably true: I've had two very technical (as in software developer) colleagues waving them at me for months, spent ages pointing out that my N95 could do everything the iphone did, much of it better than the iphone. They were often surprised at features of the N96, often assuming the iphone was unique in many ways that it plainly isn't.
I consider myself fairly well informed about these things but the lack of video camera for example had passed me by until I clicked on the camera button and wondered how to switch into movie mode. There is also, quite surprisingly, no GPS app that works with bluetooth, something else that i'd basically just assumed would be available thanks to exposure to S60 phones.
Those issues have been discussed in threads like this, so most people on here know about things like that 😉
Im wondering how much of that is going to be included in the new version. I assume your very much looking forward to finding out exactly what it has?
I am, although since I dont like touch screens I wont be moving to it.
bartmanekul wrote:Those issues have been discussed in threads like this, so most people on here know about things like that 😉Im wondering how much of that is going to be included in the new version. I assume your very much looking forward to finding out exactly what it has?
I am, although since I dont like touch screens I wont be moving to it.
I used a lot of touch screens (Psion 5/5mx and various old Palms and right now, on the Nintendo DS project i'm working on) Until the SE T68 became all the organiser I needed back in 2003 or whenever it was.
I've probably missed out on some nice Pocket PC tech since then but the iPhone's is something else, glassy smooth (rather than a soft, screen dimming layer) and somehow able to read multiple fat fingers in a useful way. It feels positively sci-fi in comparison. I'm very much looking forward to seeing what it looks like from a developer's perspective.
That said, there are a couple of areas where I prefer the N95 browser. For example, sites like http://www.ncdsa.com with a mass of tightly packed links are actually easier on the N95, on iPhone you need to zoom right in for a chance of hitting the link.
Similarly, the Iphone does none of the automatically reformatting the current box of text to fit the screen that helps so much on N95. Sure, the two finger zoom is easy and feels nice but it's not as precise as and no quicker than the N95 joystick thing.
I think, on balance, touch screens are the way forward but a D-pad in the corner of the device as well would be nice, specially as a game coder 😊
bartmanekul has nailed what Apple really are about, the "next" model.
they have never had the newest tech and then they release this super phone that everyone drools over and then whack out a new one 2 years later, with "better" specs.
the next one will have a 16gb in build SSD, my N95 can have this to and the 150mb build in, the n96 will have in built 8gb and SDHC up to whatever they can fit onto the chip (32gb+)
if it was a bigger touch screen then that would be a bonus.
what i hate is having to use iTunes (spyTunes) and the bloody iTunes "update" software which knows i do not have safri installed and wants to "improve" my PC, i only want quicktime for the HD movie trailers, the misses wants iTunes for the free BBC podcasts, and we both have n95's and not iPod/Touch/Phone, yet i still have to have a bloody iPod service running on my PC just in case.
bloody apple
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/topic/story.cfm?c_id=238&objectid=10471840
i like the way the EU doesn't give a shit
Casperuk wrote:the misses wants iTunes for the free BBC podcasts, and we both have n95's and not iPod/Touch/Phone, yet i still have to have a bloody iPod service running on my PC just in case.bloody apple
The BBC podcasts work BETTER on the N95, just go to the RSS feed on your PC web browser, copy the URL into the podcast app and you can set it up to auto-sync via your home wireless connection in the middle of the night while it's charging. Downloading the latest episodes automatically. This is just not possible on the iphone. It's either itunes or a beta third party app that requires a jailbroken iphone and doesn't quite work properly.
Seems kind of insane that a phone built around an iPOD is worse at handling PODcasts than a phone that only had it added on a later firmware rev.
thanks GCorpes will give that ago, i want rid of spyTunes
Casperuk wrote:thanks GCorpes will give that ago, i want rid of spyTunes
It does require you to type in the full name of podcasts that don't appear on the N95's podcast search, for example you have to manually enter
http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/radio4/fricomedy/rss.xml
for the news quiz/now show podcast but you only have to do it _once_ and they will trickle into your phone as you sleep for ever...
I have an N95 and an iPod Touch for two reasons:
1. The iPhone is not available in my country yet (and I don't want to hack one)
2. It doesn't have the feature set I require yet (Good camera, 3G + GPS)
I'm hoping the next model will have these 3 things, then I will probably switch, because I love the interface and large screen on the iPod Touch. And next month apps will be available for the phone (and iPod).
However, if they don't put in a decent camera, I'll probably stick with my current combo. Since I've gotten the N95 I've taken almost all pictures with it (even though I also own a 4Mpix Canon A80) simply because it's always with me, and the quality (unless there's low light) is quite good.
I've also taken several videos that would never have been recorded if not for the N95 - like the day when my youngest son started singing a song he made up, in the back seat of the car:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwM5V_LwQek
Now, there's golden moment lost forever if not for the N95.
Using WalkingHotSpot I can now also use all functions if my iPod Touch via 3G, so I've got the best of both worlds.
But if the next iPhone gets the specs I need, I would prefer to carry just 1 device.
is that all the pod casts they do or just the ones you want?
I had an iphone and I sold it after 4 weeks and got an HTC TYTN2. For me the iphone had the most important things missing:
3G and HSPDA
GPS
good Camera
Something though that I liked with the iphone was the installer option whereas you can browse each day for new applications on the phone instead of roaming thru forums.
You did my same mistake.....I would have waited 2 more months for the new iphone to come out in summer which hopefully should have all these things