Reports are surfacing around the net of a huge v30 firmware update for the Nokia N95 8GB. It's not available in Europe yet, as I write this. Is it real? Comments welcome if it's live in your part of the world. The Changelog is quoted below...
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Shame that Nokia hasn't released an upgrade for my N81 8GB (product code 0544169) since last year, so it's still on F/W 11.0.045, and still doesn't show the difference between calls made to someones mobile and their land line on the call log, and it still pees me off so much I'm not buying Nokia next time.
v30 firmware update for the Nokia N95 8GB
Ok, I want to try to get the firmware... but where from? It is not in "Downloads" of my N95,
do I need to use a computer to get it and install it?
or it should with a data plan I should be able to download it on the phone and install it from there?
Thanks.
@newbies. Firmware updates are through Nokia Software Update.
http://europe.nokia.com/softwareupdate - it's a Windows download etc.
actually this is not an official, and you can't find it through nsu. the files were posted in symbian freak, and you will need to flash your phone using phoenix. I'm not doing it, i'll wait and see for the official news, but something tells me that it's fake.
The screen shot in symbian freak shows only 6 stand by icons, but the n95 8gb has 7.
Could have 6 stand by icons because its an update for the N95-1 as reported elsewhere perhaps?
edit - just looked on symbian freak and it says RM-159 on the screenshot.
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Hmmm. If true this will annoy other nokia owners even more (as already seen in this thread).
There is a lot of other phones with glaring problems compared to the latest firmware of the N95, and they havent had an update for months.
The 6110N still has the battery bug (it never displays correct batterylife unless you reboot) among others, and thats not been addressed.
I understand its the flagship device, but ignoring the other devices which have not sold so well is annoying other nokia users.
So many bugs with devices like Nokia 6120, and all they spend their time on is new features for their flagship model...😞
http://europe.nokia.com/A4577225
Seems to me to be the definitive page for (official) firmwares. Then again Nokia is always a bit slow with updating their different websites...
This makes me wonder if its worth buying any of their later models like n85, n79, etc. After all, Nokia is very keen on improving their n95 again and again through updates. So lets all just buy n95 and keep enjoying the improvements. And anyways since the phone is now 2 years old, the price is a lot lower than what it was launched at and definitely lower the prices of the new-to-be-launched phones.
And I have doubts they will ever provide updates for any other phone with this kind of dedication...
Malerocks, that's why I always advise non-power users to buy phone models that have been out for a year or more.
Slightly older models have lots of advantages:
- More reliable firmware thanks to updates (or if there aren't many updates, such as on the N93, you'll know to avoid the phone by then)
- More reliable hardware, as they will have had time to sort out manufacturing problems
- Much, much cheaper than the launch price because early adopters aren't buying any more
- Easier to get hold of as there won't be supply problems with older models
- Lots of compatible accessories
- Greater choice of colours
- Developers will have had plenty of time to make their apps compatible with the model
Really the main reason people buy phones close to their release dates is just to show off about it and feel like they're at the cutting edge, but that's just an emotional advantage rather than a practical one.
If you mainly want a phone for practical purposes, buying a model released 12 or 18 months ago is actually a very good idea.
The N95 is the perfect example of this, it was an appallingly unstable and expensive device at its launch in early 2007 but it's now a good solid fully-featured reasonably-priced and reliable all-round multimedia device.
anyone with an n95 can go now to nsu and update their firmware to v30. it's out guys, it's out. and here a link where are some screen shots for nsu during the update and after it's finished:
http://www.symbian-freak.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23111
I agree Tzer2. But I consider myself a power user. I am always hunting for applications that can help me better utilise my phone and ways to make my S60 device a Swiss knife.
But even waiting for some time does not help. Look at the example of the n93. I bought the phone when it had been out in the market for about 8 months. There were some complaints about it on various websites (memory errors, apps crashing, etc), but there were also comments that v20 released recently has stabilized the device a lot and it was safe to buy. Plus it was THE nokia flagship at that time. So inspite of the bulk, I decided to invest in it (spending almost 3/4 of my month's salary) and bought it speculating that I will update to v20 to rid myself of existing problems and nokia will keep improving its flagship model (?) through updates. Unfortunately, v20 turned out to be the last update that nokia released for it. Its now been 1 and a half years since I have been using that phone. Honestly, I dont have any major issues with it, but I still occasionally get out of memory errors, and the camera sometimes crashes and some more minor issues here and there. I still am able to awe people with the optical zoom and the great videos it shoots.
What really hurts me is that models released before it (n73, N80) got updates much after it and Nokia even updated their set of features (E.g. both of these got A2DP). Heck, Nokia even released an update for n93i, but totally abandoned the n93. How about a small update for fixing some of these issues. No major update required.
My point basically is what guarantee do we have that if we invest in a great nokia device even 8 months after its release (remember I bought the n93 after around that period), nokia will suddenly not cripple the device by stopping support.
Look at the comments in this post. There is a person complaining about the 6120. Its been out for about a year, right?? Abandoned??? I am pretty sure now that the 6220 has been launched.
you all have been fed enough on the grievances of non n 95 users. But i still feel updates will be round the corner for us also. N 82 user. !!😊
there is also new firmware for n95-1
Can't see v30 firmware in NSU yet in the UK. 4pm BST at the moment..... Never mind what the pirates at Symbian Freak say (recommending Phoenix flashing - I ask you!!!!)
Steve
It's available for the euro 1 plum product code (0536062).
You can verify it here: http://europe.nokia.com/A4577224
ashu wrote:you all have been fed enough on the grievances of non n 95 users. But i still feel updates will be round the corner for us also. N 82 user. !!😊
That never was for the N95 8gb, only for the N95-1
but it's out? really? yay!
edit: damn, I don't like it, too many bugs came back
full impressions: http://www.fwrnando.com/blog/2008/v30-firmware-for-n95-classic/
slitchfield wrote:.... Never mind what the pirates at Symbian Freak say (recommending Phoenix flashing - I ask you!!!!)Steve
YO-HO-HO and a bottle of rum. We still love ya, Steve. Chil-l. 😉
My point basically is what guarantee do we have that if we invest in a great nokia device even 8 months after its release nokia will suddenly not cripple the device by stopping support.
I'm sorry, but CRIPPLE the device?
Which device has been CRIPPLED by not receiving a firmware update?
If a firmware version contains bugs bad enough to stop the device from working properly then you can get your money back from the retailer under most countries' consumer laws.
It's your responsibility to make sure that the device does what you want it to do when you buy it.
You shouldn't be buying anything you know is faulty on the assumption that it will be fixed later, because that takes away any financial incentive for the manufacturer to fix things.
Manufacturers don't get any money for doing firmware updates, in fact it costs them money to do them. The only thing manufacturers get money from is a hardware sale, so you've got to use that hardware sale to influence them.
If you buy something broken knowing that it doesn't work properly, then you've only got yourself to blame if it stays broken.
Story updated at this time. Sorry if some of the comments above now may less sense.
does anyone know of a way to apply firmware updates from a mac; I have no option of using windows?
Yes. turn on your mac and open safari.
Now search for "nearest nokia service point"
Sorry but thats all you can do.
Btw, is it possible that some of the bugs we like to report but do not like, may not be fixable with firmware? E.g. say the battery indicator not working properly (and I am not of course talking about an individual phone being broken) - could that be something at the component level in e.g. early production runs that firmware updates cannot fix?
I wonder why nobody ever complaints about the fact that we have to reinstall/resync everything every time there is an update available?
That's what's stopping me from downloading the latest one.
Why can't it be like with Windows updates - Download, install, restart - DONE?
What an useless update! same speed through the menus, faster boot time, but how many times do you restart your phone anyway.. the autorotation is also slow, even when you slide down still slow as hell to go into landscape... and as a bonus now I am stuck with share online on the idle screen, service that I never use.. at least they could have made it removable from idle.. On the bright side the 2-3 extra megs of RAM are more than welcomed...
what a day it has been (hey steve).
and by way what happen to n95 8g updated.
The v30 for the N95 8GB will happen very soon, too, a little birdie tells me....
quote: <b>why format???</b>
I wonder why nobody ever complaints about the fact that we have to reinstall/resync everything every time there is an update available?
That's what's stopping me from downloading the latest one.
Why can't it be like with Windows updates - Download, install, restart - DONE?
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I didn't update it because I have N95 8G and it is not available...
BUT IS THIS TRUE? The update is an ERASE / FORMAT and we loose all the program installations?