Hi all!
I remember some time ago some posts about photographer 1.0
I was seriously thinking about to buy it
then I saw some pictures taken with a 3650 and I thought I could live without photographer
now I am again in a dilemma: tomorrow morning I will get my 3650, and Photographer 2.0 is out
any1 tried that with a 3650 and a 7650? I'd really like some comparison pictures
I even offer myself to make a review for AAS if you can get a trial license for me 😉
HI!...
i use Photgrapher 1.0 on my 7650...
The pictures are really better than the normal Camera software that came with it...
That's because a less compression JPG... (bigger JPG in Kb.)
Better picture quality...
I think that the quality of the Camera Hardware on 7650 and 3650 are the same, so i am sure that the software make the difference
i would like to see the quality on v2.0... should be nice!
cya! 😃
Is version 2 for 7650 or 3650?
[quote="Doc"]Is version 2 for 7650 or 3650?[/quote]
you can use that even in 3650 and 7650 😊
Can anybody do a Photographer 1.0 vs 2.0 comparison?
As soon as I get my version upgraded from 1 to 2, I'll compare the 2.
I must say I'm very happy with the program. The quality of pictures are better with it than normal camera. The ability to zoom and edit pictures online is very usefull.
Where did you get software from can you let me know plz thanx. 07743700015
you can buy it from handango; unfortunately, no trial version avalaible
(some mod please insert here affiliate link, I'm too lazy :P)
cya! 😃
I seriously think you should put that as you're signature 😉
As for the link, ah.. GOD! I'm lazy too!! :P
😃 😃 😃 😃 😃
Ok I've upgraded from Photographer v1 to v2. It's a free upgrade. All you need is to enter your registration number from version 1
There's quite a few improvements in version 2, but at a price. Version takes up 130kb more space (That's after compression by Sdoubler)
Improvements:
1) You can now zoom 16x instead of 4x max, but more than 9x and the quality of the pics drop dramatically.
2) Exposure can be set for Day or Night exposure
3) Enhancements can be set for 7650 or 3650?
4) Image quality can be set to 4 modes. Excellent, High, Normal and Basic. Quality at excellent mode is very nice but picture size is +/- 75k each.
5) Camera functions now include Mirror which allows you 5 views with picture split in mirror image either horizontally, vertically, Diagonally etc.
All and all much improved program. Pity that the size can be a problem on a memory starved phone.
Also interesting is that the phone sends an SMS to the developers with registration code and IMEI code of phone, after registering.
I liked version 1, but if you had any doubts, version 2 is an even better buy at the same price.
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[quote="Anonymous"]
There's quite a few improvements in version 2, but at a price. Version takes up 130kb more space (That's after compression by Sdoubler)
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Yes, and 62kb (!!) of it are only for copy protection / registration purposes!
Really a bad idea of the developers, if you look at the limited memory of the 7650. And the program has been cracked after 24h anyway...
[quote="Anonymous"]
Also interesting is that the phone sends an SMS to the developers with registration code and IMEI code of phone, after registering.
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That is why I use the cracked version although I have purchased the program.
HI!..
ok i have version 2.0 ...
It's nice... better quality at new EXCELLENT mode...
Anyway i deleted (using FExplorer) the plugins that i don't use it.. (mask, color, gamma, pan)... all the .dll files of that plugins
And it's nice... because if you leave only ZOOM mode the app use only 44 kb. (uncompressed) and 20kb (compressed with stacker)
yep!.. that's all what i need... Very nice Photo Camera App, take good quality pictures, using really few memory... that's very good!.
Cya! 😃
Tiger
You can't blame the developers for increasing the program size to include
ways of protecting their software.
Yes the program still gets cracked, but they have every right to prevent
this.
It is people like you who use the cracked software that perpetuate this
cycle. The fact that you bought a copy of the software does not allow
you to use the hacked software.
The only way to stop this problem is to expose the people that hack the software. Don't support them.
well to answer faquick's question .....
photographer 2.0 is worth buying mate .... the only option that surprised me most is the 1600% zoom .... and guess what .... it still produced a reasonable picture at that stretch ... cool 😃
others all just minor enhancements
[quote="Doc"]Tiger
You can't blame the developers for increasing the program size to include
ways of protecting their software.
Yes the program still gets cracked, but they have every right to prevent
this.
[/quote]
Of course they have! But using more than 60kb for it on a device like the 7650 is a very stupid idea...
[quote="Doc"]
It is people like you who use the cracked software that perpetuate this
cycle. The fact that you bought a copy of the software does not allow
you to use the hacked software.
The only way to stop this problem is to expose the people that hack the software. Don't support them.
[/quote]
I know that it is not allowed, of course. But I hate software showing a Microsoft-like behaviour by connecting to somewhere and transferring data I cannot control. This is something we as the users of the software should not support!!
You can't blame the developers for increasing the program size to include ways of protecting their software.
Did Openbit informed the legal users of Photographer by publishing to their site or by other way that they will be using 62kb for registration purposes? Legal buyers CAN or has the RIGHT to ask the developer on why they wasted the space.
Application Manager shows Photographer 2.0 is using 363kb. Stacker shows 208kb. Does this mean... the Photographer is actually 208kb only? If the program can be use nicely while using only 208kb, why wasted the 155kb or 62kb?
Agreed with Tiger42 because why wasted the space, if the software is still crackable?
2 cents 😉
Ok Tiger and Dannt
How do you suggest developers stop people from cracking their software?
All software can be cracked.
Why don't you just support the developers and report the site where you got your cracked version. Hopefully the cracker will get caught and punished and the next one will think twice before doing the same.
Have you ever thought why people spend time cracking software and then giving it away for free? (not to mention the costs of the bandwidth used)
How do you know the cracked software is not sending messages in the background? At least openbit is telling you that it is doing it.
Ever thought that a program could be sending info while you are using wap or direct internet access?
Think about it?
[quote="Dannt"]
You can't blame the developers for increasing the program size to include ways of protecting their software.
Did Openbit informed the legal users of Photographer by publishing to their site or by other way that they will be using 62kb for registration purposes? Legal buyers CAN or has the RIGHT to ask the developer on why they wasted the space. [/quote]
If you don't like it you don't have to buy the program. That is your Right
I don't mind this as the other option is developers not developing new software because it is just not worth it.
If the cracking continues, this will happen
The Symbian platform is not large enough at this stage to allow cracking.
Especially not at the prices of current software
[quote="Doc"]Ok Tiger and Dannt
How do you suggest developers stop people from cracking their software?
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You cannot. I am a developer myself (not for mobile phones, though)
[quote="Doc"]
All software can be cracked.
[/quote]
That's correct.
[quote="Doc"]
Why don't you just support the developers and report the site where you got your cracked version. Hopefully the cracker will get caught and punished and the next one will think twice before doing the same.
[/quote]
I don't want the cracker to be caught, cause I know him very well... 😉
[quote="Doc"]
Have you ever thought why people spend time cracking software and then giving it away for free? (not to mention the costs of the bandwidth used)
[/quote]
Just for fun or reputation, normally.
[quote="Doc"]
How do you know the cracked software is not sending messages in the background? At least openbit is telling you that it is doing it.
[/quote]
Because the cracker told me that. 😉 Btw it is more than easy for a developer like me to take a disassembler and look into the code of the program himself... Everybody who has studied computer science or something similar should be able to do that. Assembler coding is normally beeing teached in one of the first semesters. And the Symbian programs are so small that it is really not very complicated to go through the code...
[quote="Doc"]
Ever thought that a program could be sending info while you are using wap or direct internet access?
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I think here in Germany this wouldn't even be legal without notification of the user... I am not 100% sure though. Any information that points to a specific persion is definitely illegal without the users knowlegde, only anonymized data could be allowed. (I also had a lecture in data protection 😉)
How do you suggest developers stop people from cracking their software?
All software can be cracked.
Why don't you just support the developers and report the site where you got your cracked version. Hopefully the cracker will get caught and punished and the next one will think twice before doing the same.
Have you ever thought why people spend time cracking software and then giving it away for free? (not to mention the costs of the bandwidth used)
How do you know the cracked software is not sending messages in the background? At least openbit is telling you that it is doing it.
Ever thought that a program could be sending info while you are using wap or direct internet access?Think about it?
2 cents again 😉
If you don't like it you don't have to buy the program. That is your Right
I don't mind this as the other option is developers not developing new software because it is just not worth it.
If the cracking continues, this will happen
The Symbian platform is not large enough at this stage to allow cracking.
I have already seen a cracked Photographer 2.0 .... so all that extra size was for NOTHING!!!! bad move!!!
ehm people 😉 I was just asking HOW it was
anyway, I tried it, I used and "abused" it (no, nothing dangerous or illegal, I just "pushed it to its limits"😉 and... well, I will report to you very early 😉
about piracy... it's the same old topic... there is no Solution with the big 'S' ... and programmers have all the rights to try something new to protect themselves. Hopefully they, by trial and error, will find something that will stop pirates and make them happy again programming for Symbian OS 😉
in the meantime, let's just SUPPORT them 😉
p.s. photographer 2.0 is WAY COOL 8) on both 7650 and 3650
First of all intru say that photographer is a0very good program, although i don't have it i say some samples and i can easily say that the quality is far better than any other program of it's kind. I don't support warez (at least on the symbian platform, PCs are another story) but i am not against it. Cranking a software is a challenge, for crackers while cracked software can help customers decide if the program is worth it's money. Photographer is an excelent example cause there is no trial or demo of it, while the coding is really bad assuming it's size and features. I have tried camerafx. Too many features, smaller than photographer but not so good quality. And wildpalm is very slow in the development. I believe that in order openbit to be more competitive, it should drop the microsoft type of thinking.
[quote="MemphisX"]Cranking a software is a challenge, for crackers[/quote]
I really agree with you. It's the same thing for "hackers": the true spirit is just to "break fronteers", nothing bad in this.
Bad thing is only the BIG spread of pirate software in the symbian world :cry: as now, it's EASIER to find "cracked" apps than legal ones. It's a shame. Many publishers do HAVE trial releases, so I really think that going for a 'crack' for these is just not fair
Photographer is an excelent example cause there is no trial or demo of it, while the coding is really bad assuming it's size and features.
I don't agree with this. I don't think it's coded so bad. I am only sad they went on improving a security mechanism that IMHO is just useless. What I mean is: Microsoft, with its ACTIVATION thing wanted to stop "casual piracy" and the goal was accomplished. But in the symbian world, there is no such a thing as "casual piracy". Since all the software is only sold over the internet, it's easier to find the cracked one than the "real" one. And this is bad. But IMHO "activation"-like mechanisms don't work well for this kind of programs.
I have no solution for symbian piracy. The only effective thing IMHO would be to actively work against "distribution" sites and forums and let them all close. This way, I am sure, piracy would not be completely defeated. But only FEW people would have access to these "cracks". And these are the people who wouldn't pay for those softwares anyway. So, no loss for the developers. And more time to develop great apps 😉
For me a good coded program is in most cases a small program. And that's a fact not only on symbian but also on pcs. Just look for example windows xp. 1gb for a bunch of useless stuff and fixes of the previous nt os, that is making it more slow and most importantly more unstable than the previous (win 2k in this case). And that kind of mistakes are not forgiven on platforms like symbian and especially on 7650 where the memory problem is very big. Also a smaller program also means a more optimized program and also faster. Photographer is not so bad coded but for me it is far from perfect, considering it's size. I knew that the fists version was quite big, but i didn't expect the next version to be bigger. That's why i think they work like microsoft, or better say like any over big software developing company. Microsoft's activation system is not comparable with photographer's. And not to mention that it has failed twice (even with the service pack).
I agreed that forums like nokiawannabefree should be closed! What can we do about it?
[quote="Anonymous"]I agreed that forums like nokiawannabefree should be closed! What can we do about it?[/quote]
Nothing as long as they are doing nothing illegal there...