Nokia E72 - messaging with 5 mpx camera, coming soon

man, nokia makes it tough to pick. I'm a e71 user wanting to get the n97 because its more media centric and bettter camera. And here is the e72 with a 5 megapixel and probably the same awesome built quality of the e71.

Im more convinced than ever that nokia could have added a better camera on their n series flagship.

I hope they fix the light bleeding issue of the e71, which is the only thing that made it look sort of cheap.

Damn you nokia for making so many great phones!!! Im gonna be poor the rest of my days cause of you.

Umm, Rafe, isn't it AAS policy not to post anything relating to new devices that's not official...?

Unregistered wrote:Umm, Rafe, isn't it AAS policy not to post anything relating to new devices that's not official...?

E72 looks very nice, but I'm slightly annoyed that E71 already got a "successor" while N82, which is half a year older, doesn't. Give me a good quality candybar with the 8mp camera found in N86 and a xenon flash, and I will be extremely pleased.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9kznz_nokia-e72_tech

Unnannounced devices on AAS?? Maybe it has something to do with the fact that the readership of this site has more than halved over the past two years, whereas competitors have grown their audience.

I've always found it very strange and completely unprofessional of AAS not to publish 'unofficial' news. It ought to be the holy mission of every journalist to publish previously unknown facts. That's called 'news'.

If you see it as your task to only replicate The Company's press releases, at the moment The Company desires, you may better call yourself Nokia's extended PR department... which is pretty much what this site has always been. And why the readership halved. Take note Steve.

Yes, it was official for 2 or 3 hours, we put up the story and then a couple of minutes later, Nokia Conversations flicked the switch on the video to 'Private'! Sod's law, etc. So yes, it does seem as though they put up the video too early by mistake. Though none of us out in Internet land knew that. After all, they soft launched the Ovi Store, maybe this was an official experiment in soft-launching a new device, get some viral chat going etc?

Well I hope they release a NAM version. I was keen about getting the E55 but I visited the Chicago flagship store about a month ago and was told that there is not going to be a NAM version of the E55. I actually like the hybrid keyboard idea. Now I am thinking E52 NAM or E72 NAM. Love my N82 in fact I used it extensively last night but the lack of North American 3G support is a real drawback for me.

BTW, I went to see 'The Hangover' and one of the guys in the movie was using an E71 and a guy in the row in front of me had an E71x. I have to say that was the first time I have seen someone with an S60 device in the wild besides myself. Well at least AT&T and Nokia are trying here in the U.S. (sort of)

aascritic wrote:Unnannounced devices on AAS?? Maybe it has something to do with the fact that the readership of this site has more than halved over the past two years, whereas competitors have grown their audience....

I've always found it very strange and completely unprofessional of AAS not to publish 'unofficial' news. It ought to be the holy mission of every journalist to publish previously unknown facts. That's called 'news'.

Thanks, Mr. Troll. 'Halved'?? Where do you get that figure from? From feedback we've received, we're more influential than we've ever been.

News? Yes, when things are 'facts', they constitute news and we report them. Until then they're called 'rumours' or 'unconfirmed leaks' and we're happy to leave it to other sites and blogs to chat about.

We pride ourselves on the huge quantity of original reviews and features, on scoops on 'facts' (real ones, again, note) that noone else has picked up on, and on general quality of information.

I notice with interest the flicking motion to scroll - interesting. Although I'm more keen to see how Nokia port their 'E' series onto a touch based OS

Personally AASCRITIC, I think allaboutsymbian cover the news just right. I subscribe to over a dozen phone sites, mainly Nokia / Symbian related and they are all covering the same rumours / news and AAS always have something extra to give, be it from a different angle. When you do as much work as these guys are doing then criticize.

Are you being a aas-hoooooooole to other sites or just to allaboutsymbian?

Well here's the Video for anyone that missed it 😊

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO-MjFTTGcg&feature=channel_page

Looks a potentially good device given the success of the E71.

I agree with steve, They could and probably have pulled this trick to get people talking.

Steve, since when is criticism the same as trolling?

My source:
http://trends.google.com/websites?q=allaboutsymbian.com&geo=all&date=all&sort=0

Alexa shows same trend.

So if I understand you well, when Nokia has not accounced a device, it's a rumour and when they have done so, it's a fact. No matter how much evidence, sources or leaks confirm the rumour. Nonsense and you know it.

Journalism is all about digging for clues that allow the rumours to become a fact.

aascritic wrote:My source:
http://trends.google.com/websites?q=allaboutsymbian.com&geo=all&date=all&sort=0

Alexa shows same trend.

Well, yes, the whole industry has been in credit crunch shock for nine months now. AAS is not immune. Which 'competitors' are you talking about though? I'm genuinely interested.

So if I understand you well, when Nokia has not accounced a device, it's a rumour and when they have done so, it's a fact. No matter how much evidence, sources or leaks confirm the rumour. Nonsense and you know it.

Not at all. There can be rumour after rumour, leak after leak, but a manufacturer can decide to hold a device or software product right at the last minute, despite the rumours/leaks and reports on many sites and blogs. This has happened to several major smartphones that I know about in the last year. At the moment Nokia (or similar) says or posts something official, THEN it becomes a fact. And not until then. Up until that point it's just a very interesting rumour that may or may not come to pass.

A more pixel dense screen would have been a deal clincher. I have used my E71 next to a Blackberry Bold and the screen on that thing is immense. Rough reviews of the E71 were pushing me towards the purchase of a 5800XM but this does throw a spanner in the works. I think the 5800 wins

aascritic wrote:
My source:
http://trends.google.com/websites?q=allaboutsymbian.com&geo=all&date=all&sort=0

That shows searches through google leading to clicks to AAS. It doesn't account for revisits via bookmarks or direct input of url. This means that loyal readership is not being measure here, so claiming that it is halved is not proven by that link.

Another qvga screen ... yawn...

Wake me up when Nokia joins the 21 century.

Unregistered wrote:Umm, Rafe, isn't it AAS policy not to post anything relating to new devices that's not official...?

Yes that is the general policy. However it's not intended to be cast iron. When a Nokia source confirms the device I would generally consider that good enough (even so I thought twice about this) it's not the first time Nokia has accidentally released stuff a few hours ahead of the actual launch time. Especially when we're so close to the actual launch. This can be frustrating sometimes when we know what's coming and then it leaks (and in this case I've left out extra stuff, you'll have to wait [very very soon now] for the full story - there's some cool stuff that's not apparent from the video).

We also occasionally allude to upcoming devices (especially if you read between the line of some or our reviews).

I'm happy to listen to feedback on this however - anyone is welcome to get in touch.

aascritic wrote:
My source:
http://trends.google.com/websites?q=allaboutsymbian.com&geo=all&date=all&sort=0

Alexa shows same trend.

If you see it as your task to only replicate The Company's press releases, at the moment The Company desires, you may better call yourself Nokia's extended PR department... which is pretty much what this site has always been. And why the readership halved. Take note Steve.

Drawing conclusions from third party sources of traffic information is notoriously unreliable. If you look at Google Trends you'll actually see this same pattern with a lot of tech / mobile site (e.g. my-symbian, phonescoop.com etc.). This sometimes happens when there's a correction for a certain niche (new data sources, improved modeling etc.). However I can tell you that traffic is still growing on AAS (based on server logs), so Google trends has it wrong (surprising when they have access to Google Analytics which runs across portions of this site).

Growth has slowed recently, but you could attribute that to a number of factors (economics, more competitors, fewer devices to market etc.). There's a few trends as well over the last 12 months - more incoming traffic from RSS, and more from Twitter (biggest growth area actually), traffic from mobile devices is also up (and this tends to be ignored by third party stats aggregators).

That said if you feel there are specific areas where we can improve I would appreciate hearing your thoughts (email me at rafe at allaboutsymbian.com or use the contact form). We do think quite carefully about what and how we cover things.

Clearly the style of AAS isn't entirely to your liking, but bear in mind we try to serve a wide audience. There's plenty of rumour sites out there if that's what your interested in. We aim to provide an extra level of insight and provide a reliable, reputable and professional approach. We want AAS stand out for its regularly update unique content - the idea being that we provide you with an informed and ultra-reliable independent view.

Unregistered wrote:Well I hope they release a NAM version. I was keen about getting the E55 but I visited the Chicago flagship store about a month ago and was told that there is not going to be a NAM version of the E55. I actually like the hybrid keyboard idea. Now I am thinking E52 NAM or E72 NAM. Love my N82 in fact I used it extensively last night but the lack of North American 3G support is a real drawback for me.

I don't know the answer to this one, but it is possible. However it may be that the E71x is considered the US equivalent.

A) Why are you (Steve and Rafe) wasting time on this aas-hat?

B) When will you (Steve and Rafe) make this a registered users only forum so pussy's like that find it harder to hide behind their keyboard?

UKJeeper wrote:A) Why are you (Steve and Rafe) wasting time on this aas-hat?

B) When will you (Steve and Rafe) make this a registered users only forum so pussy's like that find it harder to hide behind their keyboard?

I try and take on board everyone's comment's (obviously I listen to some more than others). One of the things we try and do with AAS is respond to feed / comments and questions. I want the authors on AAS to be accessible to those reading and commenting on stories.

and the unregistered thing - yes getting very close to getting rid of it. I'm the only one of the team in favour of it. However I'd like a way for people to be able to leave comments without having to register on AAS. Will have to look at using other sign on sources - OpenID, Facebook, Twitter etc etc.

I've been using this site for ages and find your comments really negative asscritic. I don't feel that the guys have to reply or defend themselves or the site because it serves as a very informative and welcome site for all things symbian. Please go away it's not nice to be negative.

Unregistered wrote:Well I hope they release a NAM version. I was keen about getting the E55 but I visited the Chicago flagship store about a month ago and was told that there is not going to be a NAM version of the E55. I actually like the hybrid keyboard idea. Now I am thinking E52 NAM or E72 NAM. Love my N82 in fact I used it extensively last night but the lack of North American 3G support is a real drawback for me.

Please god, visnu, buddha, santa claus etc. etc. DO NOT change your policy. AAS is one of the very few remaining sites upholding key journalistic principles and unparalleled quality of writing!

Second, I would be in favor in keeping the possibility for unregistereded folks to comment. I am registered, but its generally a pain to have to register to every single site nowadays.

ps. The E72 looks very nice indeed. Screen size seems to have remained the same?

Forgive me, as I am an N82 and E71 user, so don't even have a 3rd Ed. FP "2" Device yet.

But I thought, amongst the many other changes, improvements, etc etc, that FP2 introduced a true middle menu item softkey on the display.

If so, why does not a single screen shot of the E72, or anywhere in the video, show a middle soft key menu label on screen?

Or am I missing something?

THIS IS my next device upgrade methinks though, in terms of replacing my E71.

Until Nokia actually better the N82 as a CAMERA device however (and they HAVE NOT before anyone wastes any of my time refuting that claim), I will also therefore stick with my N82 as my camera based device though.

I think the day of me being able to use ONE single Nokia device to serve my needs, is still a long way off alas.

But I like the look of this new E72 in the meantime!

Now let's be careful when posting about devices that are not on the market, shall we? We don't anybody to get *cough* fired *cough* (inside joke).

On a more serious note: you get rid of "unregistered", next you'll be censoring people's posts. Let the lovefest for nokia fan boys begin.

I wonder if this will have ngage support. with the range of programs already available for series 60 v3, this will be a tough call between the N97 and E72. Nokia is making a mistake to flood the market with devices. p.s streetfighter 2 is now on Ngage for 5800.

Hi, I'm from Singapore and I can't help but notice that the video background is very similar to certain places in Singapore!

Likewise I'm using the E71 and if this is indeed a real product, it would give me more sense to upgrade to this than to the N97 which is a little let down judging from all the reviews on it.

Arthur wrote:Another qvga screen ... yawn...

I still want a phone with a 480x640 screen, but 240x320 isn't as bad as it used to be for me a year ago :tongue:

viipottaja wrote:Please god, visnu, buddha, santa claus etc. etc. DO NOT change your policy. AAS is one of the very few remaining sites upholding key journalistic principles and unparalleled quality of writing!

UKJeeper wrote:When will you (Steve and Rafe) make this a registered users only forum so pussy's like that find it harder to hide behind their keyboard?

deep3lue wrote:Hi, I'm from Singapore and I can't help but notice that the video background is very similar to certain places in Singapore!

viipottaja wrote:[...]

Second, I would be in favor in keeping the possibility for unregistereded folks to comment. I am registered, but its generally a pain to have to register to every single site nowadays.

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I agree. The 'Unregistered' comments are often of questionable quality, but usually not beyond boundaries, and also provide a wider range of viewpoints, and provoke some interesting replies.
I was going to use the discussion about the site traffic as an example, but I noticed that this Unregistered did actually register 8-)

Thanks everyone for the feedback on unregistered comments etc. For now they stay. I've maintained for a long time that its worth having a full range of opinions (and the chance for some insightful commenters) at the cost of the occasional bad one.

An updated comment system is something I've been looking into. That may help solve some of the issues.