The Nokia 5800 has just gotten its v30 firmware update. It's currently available Over The Air (*#0000# from the home screen) for some product codes, including my APAC one, as a 4MB download. Perhaps not the 'mega' update that many people had thought was coming, tying in with the upcoming 5530 XpressMusic, this is still a worthwhile update. Details below as I notice them...
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why is the title "The nokia gets fw update" not the nokia 5800 blabla bla? typo?
Any 😉 on whether the "mega" update is coming? 😊
After installing the update, my 5800's home screen displays a small light-blue info box in the top-right corner whenever I click or scroll something. The box shows two numbers that don't seem to have any connection to anything (e.g. "15,87" or "11,53"😉. The box is fairly prominent and annoying -- it's displayed over the battery indicator and clock for around 3 seconds after each click, then it goes away.
I can't figure out how this would be an intentional feature. Is it perhaps some debugging code that's been accidentally left in the OTA-distributed build?
What is the User Data Preservation ? Does it preserve the third part applications? Is it on N97 also?
About the random numbers on right top screen, I too have faced that on my 5800 NAM with V20 firmware after I reset. But restart helped me. Thinking via developer mind I think thats a debug infor for developers, not sure how it got enabled.
Unregistered wrote:After installing the update, my 5800's home screen displays a small light-blue info box in the top-right corner whenever I click or scroll something. The box shows two numbers that don't seem to have any connection to anything (e.g. "15,87" or "11,53"😉. The box is fairly prominent and annoying -- it's displayed over the battery indicator and clock for around 3 seconds after each click, then it goes away.I can't figure out how this would be an intentional feature. Is it perhaps some debugging code that's been accidentally left in the OTA-distributed build?
I have exactly th same box as you mention, however I already had it before the v30 update. It just all of a sudden appeared. The way I see it, it looks like "coordinates" within the touchscreen. I myself think it is very annoying as well, and have not found a fix yet (except for doing a hard reset and not restoring a backup afterwards).
I just upgraded to the new v30 firmware and none of those kinetic scrolling & co stuffs rumored. Didn't encounter the "small light-blue info box in the top-right corner" that the two previous comments said. Like Steve I am stumped, can't find any obvious improvements, must be an update that fixes bugs and stuffs.
I had the blue box on RHS upper corner with v21 NAM. I had to do a hard reset to get rid of it (all else failed). My guess is, it was because of some faulty third party software I had installed which is corrupting the memory.
The numbers thing is a known conflict with a piece of third party software. Umm... which I can't remember now. Handy Taskman? JBakTaskman? One of those....
Ricky of Symbian-Guru mentions email notifications on the home screen as a feature improvement.
the only thing i came across is that there is now 50mb of free ram available after boot and that some java apps seem to work faster
any word on it being hackeable?
The blue box in the top right corner is indeed debugging info, which shouldn't be present in release builds. It's only shown if a file called "ErrRd" is present in a certain folder on the device. You can easily create it through the following tiny .sis-file:
http://symbianresources.com/cgi-bin/schlabo/dl.pl?ErrRd
If you want to get rid of it, it might help to install this and then uninstall it again. Should probably remove the file, even if it was created by another application.
The N97 is full of those debug info boxes - e.g., every time you press the blue FN-button, a debug message is shown if you install this debug file. So there should still be plenty of room for performance improvements etc. 😊
huschke2go wrote:the only thing i came across is that there is now 50mb of free ram available after boot and that some java apps seem to work faster
Eh? There was 55MB before, on v21!! All depends on the theme used and other settings/apps installed, of course....
Can anyone figure out why this firmware jumped such a large increment, i.e. from v21 to v31, yet there are NO noticeable changes/improvements/features? what the heck have they done?! i'm all for stability, of course, but my v21 is pretty stable as it is, certainly not 10 version numbers of instability.
usually x1 updates brings the serious changes. remember v21?
so let's wait for v31
😊
You'll probably find that there are a number of enablers for new software which may be issued in a subsequent firmware update or made available via SW update application.
It may also be further hardware optimisation which will improve performance and battery life, but aren't very obvious at first glance.
Installed it, But dint take a backup as Steve mentioned. I lost all data , but got it back from my Ovi Cloud.
Email Notification for Nokia Messaging was the only feature I could see(after hard reset). I feel its become a little slower that V21.
V21 was rock solid, Until the official change logs arrive...I would say nothing demonstrable in V31.
But its always better to upgrade.
Suju.
no visible changes as of now ...
but after hard reset gettin free available ram of 78 mb now tat sonds gud ....
Sorry Nokia but that was your last chance. I waited and waited for this update in the the hope that it would really step the 5800 up a gear but guess what ?! another disappointment. After more years than I care to mention with Nokia I'm now resigned to watching a once great great company fall further and further behind the competition. Right now even a basic LG or Samsung looks good to me!
Rafe, now that's interesting.. my guess is that you would not say that if you would not know something more than the rest of us do, right? 😉
[Hey, one can always try]
tallpol2000 wrote:Sorry Nokia but that was your last chance. I waited and waited for this update in the the hope that it would really step the 5800 up a gear but guess what ?! another disappointment. After more years than I care to mention with Nokia I'm now resigned to watching a once great great company fall further and further behind the competition. Right now even a basic LG or Samsung looks good to me!
Agree, like you my problems keep the same. Podcast application does not work, even after V30😡
I've noticed just one tangible thing change v21 and it's the size of the icons in main menu if you're using small font in phone settings. They use to small and without text underneath them, which enabled 20 (i think) of them to be fitted onto one screen. They are back to regural size, as if you are using default font size.
Concerning homescreen email notification. Had none just after the update, so i tried *#7370* and had them after the reset, but when i restored my settings via ovi suite email notifications were gone. Disheartening.
Another thing; Nokia Messaging isn't working properly. When installed it starts up it's wizard but after entering information it only sets up an email account in the in-built email app. If you run it again, it just keeps piling them on and never goes beyond the wizard.
There are few more MB of RAM after boot and it looks to me as if the camera had received some tweaking as it looks to me as if there are less whiteness and white lines when shooting in low light conditions. Could be wrong.
I agree with tallpol2000!
Hey Nokia! Wake up! Seems like after the N95 not much innovation has happened. I got the 5800 hoping it would change my mind about Nokia and Symbian but it is starting to look like I made the wrong choice. I'm still holding on for now but Apple, Android and Palm are starting to look really nice after using Nokia / Symbian for 10 years now. Nokia, please do something to change my mind!
viipottaja wrote:Rafe, now that's interesting.. my guess is that you would not say that if you would not know something more than the rest of us do, right? 😉[Hey, one can always try]
Its always worth trying...
Joking aside, I'm not going to claim any special exact knowledge. Future updates are, of course, never absolutes. However there should be some more 5800 updates to come (though not necessarily the stuff people want / expect).
anyone from the philippines was able to successfully update this firmware? tried OTA but no updates found. haven't tried via NSU but i'm not hopeful... can you tell me when this update will become available here in manila?
Well tried it over the air via WiFi... Everything is just fine & working properly. But no new additions very disappointing.
Unregistered wrote:anyone from the philippines was able to successfully update this firmware? tried OTA but no updates found. haven't tried via NSU but i'm not hopeful... can you tell me when this update will become available here in manila?
Yeps. No problem in Manila. OTA 24 hours ago.
This is a v30 release, not the v31 which we know Nokia are already working on and which was rumoured to be released in late summer.
Have any of you considered that this is just a quick update to set up the platform for further enhancements?