Vote for peace

done!

everybody, please do our share!

I had submit mine.. come on pple let's sent our petition to em'... Peace no war... for God' sake...

done 8)

It wont help :x

at least we've done something on our part.

sorry i wont sign!!!

Well .. maybe non of you there think about the life of the Iraqi people � I DO!!! Living under Saddam�s rule is the worst thing that could happen to them � go see if that list includes the name of any Iraqis living outside Iraq.
Its ridiculous that the ppl of the world choose what they think is best for the Iraqi people while the Iraqi ppl are clearly against Saddam and want to get rid of him by any mean necessary �
Saddam gassed the Kurds � entered a war with Iran that left 1,000,000 ppl dead and invaded Kuwait � but I think that no one cares about what he does unless he shows up in your backyard invading your country of sending some sort of lunatic with a chemical component to you city ,� then and only then you might think of opposing him!
Its sad how history repeats it self� Saddam is just the reincarnation of Hitler � and no one really gave a DAMN until he started to threaten them directly!!!

Peace � peace at what price???

but war is not the only solution for this. there are still alot of options and one of that options is to disarmed Saddam, remove him on his positions by any means but not by war as millions of innocent life would be in danger if that happens. have mercy esp on those innocent children.

I signed the petition

I also have a big rainbow PEACE flag on my balcony

I am against any war. I don't think Saddam is a "good guy", but goin' there and bombing is just wrong. It's just not a solution.

And this war is not done to "free poor Iraqi people". Don't believe that. It's the big $$$$ that moves all the world :cry:

ok - I will stop now

hope we can do something! I really hope that!

War is not the only solution!

OUST SADDAM!!!

[quote="faquick"]I signed the petition

I also have a big rainbow PEACE flag on my balcony

I am against any war. I don't think Saddam is a "good guy", but goin' there and bombing is just wrong. It's just not a solution.

And this war is not done to "free poor Iraqi people". Don't believe that. It's the big $$$$ that moves all the world :cry:

ok - I will stop now

hope we can do something! I really hope that![/quote]

u have a rainbow flag !! and your nick name doesn't help your case if you know what I mean....

hehehe just being funny....

or am I 😉

[quote="Link"]It wont help :x[/quote]

same here

link, faq u! 😃 :Fade-color

done 😉

[quote="faquick"]link, faq u! 😃 :Fade-color[/quote]

😃 😃 nice one

[quote="Link"][quote="faquick"]link, faq u! 😃 :Fade-color[/quote]

😃 😃 nice one[/quote]

why you want war? bomb saddam!!!! 😃 😃

😃 😃 😃 😃 😃

I just can't believe some people think war will solve iraqs problems. There was an offtopic article here in aas about the war,just check the news. And if sadam is like hitler then what is BUSH. Just tell me who had made the most wars (and ironically they were made for the good of the world, and for peace) the last 20 years... Was it iraq? I am not saying that sadam is an angel, nor that the U.S. people are bad and love wars. It's the people that have power, and this power is not enough for them. they call it politics but that's not what politics meant to be. they say that they have democracy, but really who is in charge on their so called democracy? Besides the only real democracy we had was more than 2000 years ago in athens (greece) the very first democracy... and lastly i am definitely sure that nobody at iraq wants that war.

i will be always firm with my stand:

NO TO WAR!

OUST SADDAM!!!

I dont actually know what to think about this sometimes. On the one hand you look across the pond and that's enought to put you right off. However what I would say is that just because Bush is mkaing a complete muppet of himself what he is proposing is not necessairly the wrong thing. I don't agree with his reasoning nor his attitude but I have a great deal of sympathy towards the getting rid of him side of things.

The thing about war is that no one wants it, to be in a position where you have to take human life, any human life is a position that should be arrived at as a final stage. What worries me most is the rather gun ho attitude of some Western leaders. Equally well (and actually more so) I am disturbed by the stance of Chirac - I really dont belive he's is doing it for moral reasons. If you contrast this with Blair (who is a real condundrum in this) you have some one who is evidently pro war but who has shown to be the mater of political spin, and certainly during his office has been concerned with opinion and the next electorate. To have some like him, a (we are told) moral religious man, to be so convinced (to the extent he argues his case passionately in public (unlike any other leader) then there must be something that has thoroughly convinced him. Whether we have been told this might be open to debate.

You know one of the biggest problem I feel is none of us really known enough to decide one way or another. The scope of knowledge and vision that is required to truly consider the question is simply not feasible for most people. I've put my own opinion down, but I wouldn't for a moment pretend it can't be changed.

I'm also in something of an interesting position having had family who worked in the Middle East and who still know a lot of people out there. There message has been almost to a person that Saddam needs to be got rid of, and they dont care how - most of them accept a military solution is probably the only way. Here in Cambridge I'm also in contact with several people who work in Iraq (one of them on the Basra marshes for example) and again the message is the same. One of the suprsing thing here is that in Cambridge a majority are probably in favour of war (that's not to say there aren't vocal opponents). In a university this is not the most common thing you might expect!

I wouldn't put myself in the same camp as the Hawks. However I believe that the option of war should be kept open. I would certainly like to see a second resolution, but even that to me is not essential. Having spoken to those that I think have the most right to decide - Iraqis themselves - it appears clear to me that Saddam must be removed. I don't know the best way to do this, but I'm inclined to agree with those who say the only way he can be removed is by force. I leave aside issues of legality and whether we have the right to do this and ask mself if I were in their position what would I want the world to do. That's why I'm not signing the petition.

Please note this is my personal opinion. I don't expect people to agree, just respect it. Its not the official line of the site (there isn't one as such - accept people can say what they want).

[quote="Link"]It wont help :x[/quote]
shhhhhhhhhhhhh
we may get some $$$$ out of it

I am totally with you rafe. I also didn't signed in not because i want war but because they real reason i was going to sign in was political. Seeing bush acting like he is a GOD, trying to convince us what is right and wrong... I also believe that the iraq people should set a revolution by themselves if they don't want sadam. Not wait for the U.S. And why the U.S. are always making wars with countries that are far away from them? But the most important thing is that with the war innocent people will die. We say the results from the previous war. Even we (countries near yougoslavia)had (and still have) problems especially with the uranium bombs) but then none was against war. Why now?

[quote="MemphisX"]I also believe that the iraq people should set a revolution by themselves if they don't want sadam. Not wait for the U.S.[/quote]

WHAT??? Did I see that right?
Man you have to get started the history of this Crazy man in Baghdad �. Opposition members are not only killed, but their wives, children, relatives and even neighbors � this is NOT an exaggeration � there are million upon million of Iraqis who have fled Iraq .. didn�t you stop and ask your self why?? By the United Nations Human Rights Commission � Iraqis make the largest number of refugees annually?
I have family in Iraq (Iraqis) and they can't wait for the day that they can be free of some 35 years of the Baath party rule that brought Saddam to power.
Did you know that Iraqis cannot travel outside Iraq without having a permission signed by the party leaders?
Did you know that a whole family cannot leave Iraq in fear that they might not come back?
Did you know that it is very common that Iraqi intelligent officers visit primary schools and ask children about what their parents think about Saddam and the Iraqi regime?
Iraq is truly the REPUBLIC OF FEAR
So I say lets get rid of Saddam and if war is the price � well Saddam has killed more Iraqis that any war would do!!!

You spoke with facts bigbang. And that's why they should set a war against sadam. They must wake and see what best benefits them. Look behind to the past. On varius nations. Whatever the mankind has won, it was won by revolutions. If there were no revolutions we wouldn't evolve technologically,and not only. i know that it may sounds foolish, especially to those people at iraq who are afraid. But always the were afraid. And even if the US will success with this war, how long it will last. Sacrifices must be made. The choice that must be decided , is who will benefit by these sacrifices...

I think this boils down to one thing. Removal of Saddam. Bush is saying that only when Saddam leaves, there will be no war (or something like that)

If the removal is the only solution, my goodness, I don't think that the people of Iraq should suffer through war. All I'm saying is, there were a lot of leaders that were dethroned via a revolution. A revolution may start via an assasination, etc. etc. We've had a couple revolutions here in the Philippines already.

The problem with the US is that they are continuosly innovating their "defenses" and all of their other "war" products are already obselete, but they could not sell it to other countries anymore. They are overflowing with weapons already. Maybe, those weapons, have a "Best before" thing. Otherwise, they just misused billions of dollars for trash. Those are the american peoples taxes and money. I've heard that life in there is not as good as before.

This may start a debate, but this is just my 2 cents, my own personal opinion.

What else to say after Rafe's post... Totally agree with you on that one.

RAFE FOR PRESIDENT (and his first order as the PRESIDENT will be to bomb the bombers...) !!!

PS. Also signed the petition. Agree that it will not change the things a lot, but it is good that certain masters of the world take notice of the People's Voice... Therefore if you did not sign it yet, DO IT, and pas it over...

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if the war happen,who do you think will win, U.S or Iraq? 8)

just wanna ask! :roll:

No one.

The people around the world will suffer from it. Look at what it's doing now to our Stock Market, our currency hit all time lows. Worse, war has not dawned yet. I'd say, if they go to war, do it now. Uncertainties are crippling the thirld world economies already. Imagine the usage of Biological warfare. Its DREADFUL.

Many people here have seen it very wrong. It is not a matter of Sadam, it is a matter of war NOT being the answer. When this whole thing started, it was about "Weapons of mass destruction". Now? It is a matter of Sadam's regime. Hello? Am I the only one that things that Bush just wants war and will use any excuse?

The threat about war was about Sadam dissarming, he does. Now it is about Sadams regime and there will be a war because Bush and his puppets think that he this is the only way to bring him down!

Lets make a war, hundreads of thousands will die, cities will be lost, innocent people will die and all this for what? Bring Sadam down from leadership???? I say go there and shoot the guy.

There is no need for a war. You might consider this a game or a TV show, where rockets will fly but guess what? You are thousands of miles away! You dont know how it is when bombs are flying over your head. Oh yeah, lets go to war, that is what Iraqies want? Well this is just bull. They dont want WAR they just don't want Sadam. This MUST be distinguished. It is a very different thing.

OK, Sadam is a dickhead, so what? Is WAR the answer to WAR? What about Africa? What about South Korea, North Korea?

They already anounced that the next step is Korea? When is this going to stop? There are many great wars going on right now and most of you people dont even know.

What role does the UN play in all this? Do the Americans do whatever they want? Who is going to stop them? Can anybody stop them? No I dont think so, and why? Becasue nobody cares.

I know that Sadam is no angel. I know that he does terrible things. But I also know this; Innocent people will die from american bombs and I think that no one in Iraq wants this.

I am quite a multilingual and multicultural person. I actually lived in many counties in Europe and have met several people from Iraq. I know their feelings about Sadam but I also know their feer about bombs flying around.

For the last time.

" WAR IS NOT THE ANSWER TO BRING DOWN A LEADER OF A COUNTRY. "

"in law, you dont have the right to kill someone that has murdered. Who gives this right to Bush?"

About Blur? He sometimes can be a very persuasive person. Even though I consider him a puppet, he at least has the guts to discuss this in public. I really believe the poor fella believes in what he does. This however doesn't make it right. He recently was let down by the Americans. They will go ahead without him. That means that his oppinion means nothing to them. They consider British soldiers as marionets that will follow the Americans.

When this war is over (oh yes war is inevitable), I just hope you will understand the mother that will have lost her sons and children, because some bomb fell from the sky too early....but wait, you wont see it. You wont be there.....but dont worry maybe CNN will show it and you can make popcorn and whatch it. I WONT!

Dont do what Sadam already does to his poeple.

PLEASE NOTE! This is just my personal opinion and I don't mean any dissrespect to anyone that has different opinions and thoughts.

Malebuffy is absolutely right. He just showed another dimension of the war. War is nothing for us until we will be the victims. Although we are no gods to judge what is right or wrong and what benefits the people from iraq, is BUSH A GOD? And the very important think is that this is not the first time. This is not the first war. Not many years have passed since the last war, since the last bombings. And also why always innocent people are sacrificed for the selfish actions of the powerfull ones? But remember that although they have the power, this power can return and crash them like a boumerang...