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Want to RS MMC for Nokia6630?

130 replies · 25,652 views · Started 24 December 2004

celios 12 Jan 2005, 15:14

I appreciate your help... but I have two daily 30 minute journeys to fill and listening to 2 or 3 songs over and over is possibly a very quick way to certain madness! 😊

My 6630 was supplied with a 32Mb card (thank you Vodafone), and even 64Mb DV ones are hard to find locally in the UK. I have gone from using a P900 with two 512Mb MS Pro cards and even that I found a bit small. With the flash memory iPod coming in at �80 for 1Gb it is cheaper than buying a 1Gb RS MMC card (currently �120 - imagine how much a DV 1Gb card will cost when they eventually appear)!!

I will keep my 32Mb card supplied with the phone and just use it for photos, apps, etc. Don't get me wrong, I think the 6630 is a great smartphone, but if Nokia want it to be any kind of media player they need start thinking about memory (both internal and external) with a bit more clarity, the whole DV thing smacks of Nokias arrogance toward their user-base...

willbrady 12 Jan 2005, 15:38

VERY wise words from Mr Fox.
Also - with the increased speed of sending files down the USB cable and the hot swap memory card - swapping data from PC to Phone is no longer such hard work 😊

fannypad 12 Jan 2005, 19:10

celios wrote:
Don't get me wrong, I think the 6630 is a great smartphone, but if Nokia want it to be any kind of media player they need start thinking about memory (both internal and external) with a bit more clarity, the whole DV thing smacks of Nokias arrogance toward their user-base...

Nah, it's just what happens when you let the tech boffins in R&D that don't have a clue about marketing have a bit too much say in matters. DV cards reduce battery consumption, and in a feature-heavy Symbian phone that's also designed to stay locked to WCDMA transmitters all day long it seems like the perfect solution... from an R&D man's point of view. I'm willing to bet you could count the number of tech blokes in Nokia's lab that gave thought to or gave two monkeys about DV RS-MMC unavailability on one hand. That's the job of marketing.

And I'm not so sure about the DV cards being much more expensive than standard versions; maybe there'll be a nominal difference initially, which will quickly disappear once more manufacurers adopt the MMC 4 (includes DV) spec.

As for the iPod Shuffle, what a brilliant product. But it's still synchronising, charging and carrying one more thing about with you, no matter how small. And with such tiny dimensions I doubt it can pump much juice through the headphone jack.

celios 12 Jan 2005, 20:48

I still maintain the 6630 was released ealier than planned, probably to keep the major networks and their 3g plans happy. Whichever way you look at it, it was a stupid move and it now looks more and more likely that there will be nothing bigger than 64Mb before easter. The whole thing with flash memory formats has got out of hand, so many formats, so little time. Mini SD/SD is starting to look like a firm favourite. I had to laugh today when I read an article about the mobile phone and device mftrs getting together to agree standards for the interchange of photos. Maybe they should have started with the physical media and taken it from there about 3 years ago, then photo printers wouldn't have needed 7 (and counting) different sized slots... :tongue:

iPod shuffle & mini Mac are both genius. The fact that the shuffle is also a USB memory key and charges from the USB drive are both such simple but great ideas.

celios 12 Jan 2005, 22:08

Unplugged wrote:I doubt were going to be waiting till Easter its just that people selling pretech cards ae most likly still selling off old 3.2 stock.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0405/04053101pretecmmc4.asp pretech have also just released a 2GB MMC4 compliant card itsjust finding someone who is selling NEW pretech stuff or waiting for another MMC supplier like Samsung to pick up the baton.

Hmmm, did you check the date on the article you linked to - 22nd May 2004! So Pretec demonstrated a 2Gb MMC (that's not an RS MMC or, in fact what we need, a DV RS MMC) way back in May 2004 but they don't seem to be selling them yet - I did a quick google and couldn't see 2Gb MMC cards available at any of the usual places.

eXpansys do have them listed, but appear to have given up hope - http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=113670

That does not bode well for a decent supply of capacious DV RS-MMC (it just rolls of the tongue) cards anytime soon :icon4:

coolice 12 Jan 2005, 22:48

Hey,

I thought we'd already covered the PreTec issue and their MMC4 not being compliant with the 6630?

Isn't there an email here from them saying none of their cards as yet cater for the 6630?

Ian

celios 12 Jan 2005, 23:06

I think Unplugged is talking about MMC, not RS MMC. Pretec don't have a 2Gb RS MMC on their site. It doesn't help either way.

Unplugged 13 Jan 2005, 01:09

Yes but the 2GB card they demonstrated was a MMC 4.0 card
In order to comply to MMC v4.0 they must be Dual Voltage.

http://www.pretec.com/PR/PR_MMC4_0_060104.pdf Pretech even state their "MMC PLUS" range of cards are dual votage in this document.

Nobody has actually used one from Pretec Direct yet. T

People have been ordering from
http://www.pccardsdirect.co.uk/acatalog/Pretec_RS_MMC__Reduced_Size_MultiMediaCard_.html

They do not mention that that they HAVE any of the MMC4 cards yet or even that they can order them. In fact if you dealve into the site further you will see that it is run by

Registrant:
Jactron Limited
Trading As: Jactron Limited

Registrant's Address:
St Radigunds House
Hawkinge
Folkestone
Kent

Which is also known as http://www.jactron.co.uk/ and the ONLY uk supplier of Pretech cards. They are based up the road from me and the last time I contacted them they said they dident HAVE any RSMMC cards (see my first post) if you email either site they just say "Pretech say they are compatable with the 6630" so its pretty clear that they are going by whats on pretecs site.

You will need to contact Pretech direct to see who IS selling the MMC4 compliant ones (if any)

edit
Just noticed that Pretec no longer list the 6630 on their website.

celios 13 Jan 2005, 08:00

So to summarise, if you want to use a 6630 to play a decent amount of music (> 1 album) you're screwed!

willbrady 13 Jan 2005, 16:04

celios wrote:So to summarise, if you want to use a 6630 to play a decent amount of music (> 1 album) you're screwed!

I have 2 albums on my MMC - plus 20 or so pixs and 6-7 videos and still have 20mb free.

Have you tried re-encoding you mp3's to 44hz-64kbps, sounds fine and dandy and nice and small.

Will

celios 13 Jan 2005, 16:30

willbrady wrote:I have 2 albums on my MMC - plus 20 or so pixs and 6-7 videos and still have 20mb free.

Have you tried re-encoding you mp3's to 44hz-64kbps, sounds fine and dandy and nice and small.

Will

Great, but where do you fit all your apps (Opera, Lifeblog, Games, etc.)? And as for recoding MP3s to 44-64Kbs, you are kidding aren't you? Why don't I just dust off the old tape Walkman and take it from there? I already have a music collection encoded at 128Kbs+ (VBR), to recode all of that seems like a big job, easier to sell the phone or buy something with a decent memory capacity that can play music.

Pictures of dual voltage cards aren't much good either, Pretec had a photo last May... to make the real thing seems to take a little bit longer.

willbrady 13 Jan 2005, 17:15

All depends on wheather you want a decent phone or not I guess.

Re-encoding is no big deal - select all - encode to new folder - go to bed.

Did you not know that the DV mmc's were not availible yet when you bought your phone, knowing that you had a huge music gallery you wanted to put on it?

Research, research, reasearch, the guys have been on about it for ages on this site ;o)

For me the pictures are the most important bit - music is just for the 20 min journey to work - so although it is a pain, I can make do with swapping tracks at work for a few weeks.

Whats my other option - go without the phone altergether untill the DV cards are avallible and then buy the phone - wheres the logic in that! I'd rather the phone NOW ;o)

You say ditch this one and buy another phone that can take more memory - what are the options there! Come on, it has to be symbian for a start - needs a decent camera - fast Processor - 3G - looks ok - Hmm not much out there is there.....

Stay cool - it's only a phone.

We'll all be happy in a couple of months and we'll all be looking for the next new release, so lets be happy with what we got while we got it.

Will

celios 13 Jan 2005, 19:42

willbrady wrote:All depends on wheather you want a decent phone or not I guess.

Re-encoding is no big deal - select all - encode to new folder - go to bed.

Did you not know that the DV mmc's were not availible yet when you bought your phone, knowing that you had a huge music gallery you wanted to put on it?

Research, research, reasearch, the guys have been on about it for ages on this site ;o)

For me the pictures are the most important bit - music is just for the 20 min journey to work - so although it is a pain, I can make do with swapping tracks at work for a few weeks.

Whats my other option - go without the phone altergether untill the DV cards are avallible and then buy the phone - wheres the logic in that! I'd rather the phone NOW ;o)

You say ditch this one and buy another phone that can take more memory - what are the options there! Come on, it has to be symbian for a start - needs a decent camera - fast Processor - 3G - looks ok - Hmm not much out there is there.....

Stay cool - it's only a phone.

We'll all be happy in a couple of months and we'll all be looking for the next new release, so lets be happy with what we got while we got it.

Will

It is only a phone. But isn't that the problem?.. It should be more 😉

What I'm getting is that the 6630 should be the flagship series 60 handset, it should be able to do everything the previous s60 models can do and more, but the DV slot prevents that. Ok you have 3G, but is it tranforming your life? Are you making loads of video calls or downloading all your music over the air? I know I'm not, but that could be due to the immaturity of the networks. As it stands the 6630 is a phone ahead of it's time, the only problem could be that when it's time comes, another phone steals it's limelight!

mikeday83 14 Jan 2005, 09:29

The way I see it is that this shows that Nokia are pushing forward and setting a president for other manufacturers to follow. It also shows that they intend this phone to still be well equipped for the long term not just to go out of date within a few months. Its only gonna get better whenn MMC-4 is released and they have the GPS module and other options software and hardware

celios 15 Jan 2005, 18:00

mikeday83 wrote:The way I see it is that this shows that Nokia are pushing forward and setting a president for other manufacturers to follow.

That'll be the president of a phone with only 64Mb of flash memory then! I don't think Sony Ericsson, MS, etc. will be queing up somehow!

MMC-4 shows promise, but isn't yet delivering. Since any handset (and especially Nokia's 😃) have about 6 months before it is replaced by a faster, smaller or better specified model (often from the same manufacturer), they only have 3 months left and we'll be lucky to have > 256Mb cards by then. DV cards should have either been an option for the 6630 or saved until the next model. 1Gb 3.0v RS MMC cards are already out there, so I don't think we would have had much to fear with a slot that could read 3.0v cards.

fannypad 16 Jan 2005, 12:24

Never mind that, what I want to know is have those that ordered the Pretec cards (mikeday83 and willbrady) actually received them?

If so, what's the verdict?

Unplugged 22 Jan 2005, 01:01

Wow 6 Days 🙄 we shall wait with baited breath its s ahme Voda cant hurry up with these unlock codes 😞

Unplugged 23 Jan 2005, 01:34

I doubt these cards are going to be cheap when they first come out 😞 not until we have a bit of retail compitition going. Tehere definatly a lot cheaper than the Nokia ones.

Mind you Vodafone gave me �50 to buy a "64 meg card" so im guessing its not a bd deal atm :lol:

mikeday83 24 Jan 2005, 09:24

I got this on the weekend

Hi Michael
The 128MB and 256MB DV RS-MMC are in Beta test at the present time. If all goes well then we would be expecting to start shipping in the next 4 to 6 weeks. Would this interest be for your private use or your company?

Yours sincerely

Neil Hall
European Sales Manager
ATP Electronics Inc (UK)