The SPV MS Smartphone lives up to the usual MS standards...
thats shite
only runs microsoft certified software?
oh dear
isnt that what microsoft are trying to do with their next windows OS as well.?!?!??! I cant remember what its called, but will be the death of freeware app programmers
i was looking at the SPV today saying to myself, wot a nice wee phone that is, i might get one for the wife for xmas (so i can play with it)
but sod that, u couldnt PAY me to take one of these phones now
sod that, u couldnt PAY me to take one of these phones now [MS SPV]
That's what I like to hear.....let's show our support for Symbian instead! :multi:
$600 dollars is waaaaaaaaaay too much for a developers license... Microsoft won't have to worry about the competition, I think think they (or was it Orange who put in the certified-software only thing?) have just killed their own product already. Phones have moved beyond simply making calls... in the future, the programs you can run for your phone will define which one you choose to buy. If there aren't brilliant people out there who are willing and ABLE to make free software, a massive market will be destroyed. The only software available will be Microsoft certified crap, produced only by those able to afford the license fee... Microsoft made the same mistake a decade ago with Linux, I hope they have the foresight not to do the same again.
we are entering the age where we need mod-chips for our phones
lol
I wonder if this in some way relates to why Sendo decided to jump ship.
Zuber
The great black cloud of warez sweeps over the little town of MICROSOFT SMARTPHONE OS.
Yep! the SPV is CRAP!!!! I had it for 3 days!!! I took it right back! technically it could be great, but the software litterally made it unusable
LOL gees I gotta say I thought they woulda done a better job on this.
Anyone know where I can see a pic + screenshots of the SPV?
My Nephew bought one a few weeks ago.
I asked him why, being M$ buggy etc. etc. and he said he wanted a new contract and this was the only device that he could get for �100 and get unlimited GPRS for �6 per month and could not resist.
I have to admit, at this price, it is very tempting package. Anyway, to cut long story short, he is totally peed off, think is is stupidly buggy and plans to take it back and demand it be replaced with something that "works". A new software upgrade is due soon, which might improve things, otherwise, this thing is a bag of sh...
Anyway, in the meantime, he is going back to his brilliant brick as he calls it (9210).
Zuber
still anyone got any links so I can see a picture of this thing?
Try to look in the Waffle section. There is (if I remember correctly) a
link to a page with pics. No idea why anyone would like to see such an
ugly phone :P 😃 😃 😃
remember guys, this is the first of its kind and there are bound to be bugs...but dont write off M$ smatphones off too hastily. 😊
im sure when they get their fingers out of their ears, things will get better. 😃
[quote="bazanime"]*snip*...but dont write off M$ smatphones off too hastily. 😊 [/quote]
LOL, how much of a back hander are you getting from M$ ?? 😉
oh, you know i cant tell you that....lets just say i have a good retirement plan 😃
personal friends with good ol' Billy 😃
Let us support SYMBIAN!!! Everybody now... 😊
Sorry I just went over to the Palm Camp. Might come back when the 931- or 9410 come out. Love that form factor (a bit slimmer please).
Zuber
Theres no question - its crap!!! When texting every 2-3 words it freezes for about 5 seconds, have to wait then carry on - it does this at least twice in each text!!! [I type fast but not like a text in 10 seconds quick, just fast] And the menus are slow... Its rubbish!!! Its simply microsoft! They cant make good software - Of course they want "bugs so people will be fored to upgrade for years" - [James bond, tomorrow never dies]... Why buy MS when Symbian can do a much better job! Plus they chargin all this money for certificates so no free-ware for it... and we cant creat our own, Plus it has no photo application, to take and save photo's you have to creat a new MMS and insert>picture>from camera... Then save it as an MMS!!!! I mean its so RUBBISH!!!! And people say its got an MP3 player... welll its always breaking up the music! For no apparent reason [well there is one, its Microsoft] an hour glass pops up [well its version of an hour glass] when its not doing anything... and when its doing things [this happens every 1-2 min's [possibly why MP3 player keeps breaking up] - All the 'advantages' are nullified by the software's lack of competance to use the feature!!!! Ive used one of these!!! Ive had one!!! I took it back!!!! the ONLY thing better than 7650 is size, looks and weight... And thats about the only part Micro-flippin-soft havnt got there hands on ['cept a little stamp in the plastic *proudly* stating its MS Pocket pc power]! Arghhh!!!! Its CRAP!!!!! WHY WOULD YOU WANT IT!!!!!????? I would preffere a Nokia 5110!!! [actually I would preffere a N5110, im not being sarcastic] I got mine Free on T120 price plan which aint a bad deal - I STILL TOOK IT BACK!!! Its not worth the card its packed in
Any way - General summery of above text "SPV is bad, dont get one"
Have a nice day all 😊
P.S. its crap
[quote="Zipper"]P.S. its crap[/quote]
LOL, from that lil outburst, I think a lot of people will agree with you 😉
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I take it you weren't impressed then?
The MMS software IS flakey and there is a slight pause when using some of the menu's but it's not THAT bad. The SonyEricsson T68 was sower when it was first released and that cost a while lot more than the SPV.
Turning off keypad tones, system tones and lowering the keypad repeat rate, will speed it up by about 70%. How many of you use keypad tones anyway?! So that's the speed issue sorted.
The Orange cirtification support IS a problem for large developers, but they are toying with the idea of approving 'home-made' brews without the need for an expensive license as long as they are submitted for Orange pre-release approval.
The first software update (OTA unlike any other phone barring the unsuccessful Magcom) is due in about a months time. Not too long to wait. The first 7650's had far more bugs than the SPV and those buyers had to wait a lot longer before an update was released. Even then you had to find a level 4/5 NSC to have it updated.
The MP3 player problem is associated with loading too many MP3's and software packs onto the phone itself. Most people will buy larger (8mb is supplied) SD cards and use those. Let's be honest, it's smaller than a 7650, it potentialy does more, costs less, and is upgradable in terms of memory and functionality in ways 7650 owners can only dream.
I'm not saying it is a better phone the my beloved 7650, rather that it is not a bad phone. Most of the anti-spv comments on this and other message boards revolve around Microsoft and not the phone itself. Had it been made by Nokia, most of the nay-sayers would be praising its power and UI.
[quote="omar_g"]Had it been made by Nokia, most of the nay-sayers would be praising its power and UI.[/quote]
Had it been made by Nokia, M$ wouldn't have had a look in 😉
EXACTLY what i mean - In THEORY it can do more - And the speed isnt sorted with the tones issuie! grrr I wish it was! And the software update - Well lets think of windows software update ehh... Cause of course it runs perfectly and crash free after u update it [SARCASM Overload] --- I wish they were that easy to be sorted - But lets face it.... orange update schedual is a release end of dec then one in July ... Why buy a phone that MAY [knowing Microsoft will most likely not] be sorted out 6 months from now when there will be phones [i hope] that do a lot more by then! I ask you! WHY!? Its all about the here and now ... Not next month - not 3 months away - and most definatly not 6 months away! The SPV is a flop - and im no anti orange person - but may i point out orange are in �25bn debt, they made 1000 redundant and are actually being sold off IF anyone will come up with the money - My CPW recon they may very well be under by fall off 2003. The SPV doesnt work - Its unfortunate... Oh and as for the MP3 loading to many on phone blah blah blah... I tred many a thing with my SPV - It breaks up quite a bit!
All in all - SPV is crap
Hhahahaha! You make me laugh! Turning of the keypad tones to make the phone work.....hHhahahah!
"Most of the anti-spv comments on this and other message boards revolve around Microsoft and not the phone itself."
No sorry, my nephew has had one for a number of weeks, and in his opionion it is an absolute pile of sh.. And that is comparing it to his Nokia 9210 in terms of reliability etc.
The 9210 was buggy when it came out, but from what he has shown me on this thing, it is very unstable. It worked "OK" when he first got it, but it gradually went down hill (sounds familiar). Like you say, perhaps the next servicepack or hot fix will resolve some of the main issues like not being able to sync. with Outlook properly or dial some of the contacts on the phone list.
Zuber
I agree it's not perfect (the SPV). But don't be so quick to write it off. The 7650 was released with far more bugs. You all seem perfectly happy to ignore that fact.
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Turning off keypad tones to make it run faster.... haven't we been doing that for years with Ericsson's phones?
Making a dummy voicedial so that the speakerphone works... never had to do that on an SPV. Oh, a software update fixed that did it? But I thought a software update on an SPV was unacceptable... :roll:
Swings and roundabouts my dear anti-microsoft friends.
The 7650 was released with far more bugs.
Did you really count them one by one?
Anyways you are trying to compare a phone that came out 5 months AFTER the 7650. In computer terms this is usually double the speed and performance etc....yet some people STILL prefer the 7650.
Its still very early.......other SPV bugs will be surfacing 😃
The SPV is a flop
Orange have sold more SPV's than 7650 in the past 2 weeks.
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orange are in �25bn debt
As are most of Europe Telco's.
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Oh and as for the MP3 loading to many on phone blah blah blah... I tred many a thing with my SPV
As did I and most of the users on MoDaCo forums, except they worked for us...
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All in all - SPV is crap
Ok, You win. :-?
Did you really count them one by one?
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Anyways you are trying to compare a phone that came out 5 months AFTER the 7650. In computer terms this is usually double the speed and performance etc....yet some people STILL prefer the 7650.
I know, i'm one of them. I just don't think the SPV is a bad phone at all. And you agree, the 7650 has a 5 month headstart. The SPV is significantly more powerful and crams in far more memory, not to mention tri-band support. The only thing lacking is bluetooth which is only a half hearted attempt on the 7650 anyway.
Its still very early.......other SPV bugs will be surfacing
You know what i'm like when it comes to the SPV! I'm determined to remain unbias until the end. If the SPV were that bad, i'd side with you, but the fact is, its not! 😊
You know I am playing with you right? 😃
Orange have sold more SPV's than 7650 in the past 2 weeks.
Is this really a plus point? I mean hello? Do you know how many 7650 Nokia sold?
The thing is one! I can control Winamp with the 7650, I can browse my files with the 7650 (ok with the SPV too but you will get my point) I soon will be able to play Sierra Adventures on the 7650....why? Because developing for the 7650 does not cost anything!
I am a strong believer that Software makes a Phone, not hardware! 😊