Firmware + poor battery survey

I killed every single battery buger in phone and still 15hrs...Mid to High usage!?

i have garmin installed on my memory card, took the card out , and have only used one bar in 24 hours, few txts and fone calls in that time

I took my i8510 off charge around 9am Friday morning. Since then I've used it twice for calls, once for an alarm, and about 15 minutes for email and web access (both 3G and Edge, no wifi). Wifi detection is on.

It is now just after noon on Monday and at this time I have 4 "ticks" on the battery indicator.

So thats 3 days and 3.5hrs thus far, albeit with light usage.

vudluxi wrote:Got a new battery from Samsung on Friday, so charged all Friday till Saturday morning and just checked the phone and it hasn't lost a bar (though I didn't use it at all on Saturday), before it would have lost at least 3 bars sometimes 5.
Having disabled screencapture and uninstalled Garmin (gone back to Route66 as I've paid for the maps) could it be a combination of things causing the battery problems?
I thinks that Stuclark could be right in saying its not the firmware but still would be nice to have a new one.
So fingers crossed my battery looks promising but only time will tell.

Nearly 60 hours now and still only 1 bar gone, used it for an hour of music earlier and about 10 minutes on the phone.

starting to install some of my apps now having achieved a decent battery life.

I've been installing a few at a time to identify which app is running in the background eating the battery up....i noticed today that battery is now running out quicker....i think handy clock may be causing some problems as it runs in the background.

in fact theres a little trick to find out what apps are running in the background (jbaktaskman is good, but the names of the processes can be ambiguous at times and i cant link them to the acutal apps).......simply install the app, run it then close it....now uninstall it...if you get a message saying "cant uninstall...need to close app" or a similar message, you know there is a process associated with that app running in the background....this happened to me with handy clock, which makes sense as it has the alarm function, which needs to be on all the time to work.

ANY process which runs in the background will consume some battery life, merely by the fact that the phone has to spend CPU time powering that application.

The more applications running at any one time and the more intensive those applications are on the CPU will obviously decrease battery life.

As will anything which constantly uses WiFi, GPS, 3G, GPRS, HSDPA etc. as stated before.

The reason people haven't been able to work out what's going on with their phones is because, as stated before, you need to do a controlled side-by-side comparison of phones setup IDENTICALLY to work out what may be eating battery power.

For example, I leave the screencapture process running all the time and I don't have ANY battery issues. So I doubt it's going to be vastly different on my phone to anyone elses - what's more likely is that there's something else which is different...

My phone's been running for well over three days now. What a differnce with before, when I struggled to manage a day, sometimes not even making it through the day after an overnight charge.

All I changed is killing screencapture and turning off video sharing. After a full charge tonight I'll re-enable either one of the two, see what's draining my battery.

Maybe, Stuclark, not all phone's are identical. In fact, they aren't, as they have different firmware versions. So you might be a bit quick to state that the screencapture-process is not the cause. Especially when other people do suspect that process to be the cause.

Do you know what the "custom version" means? What it adds over the firmware proper?

Just thought I'd throw in my tuppence worth. First few weeks I had the phone the battery was great, normally charged every night anyway but on the odd occasion I didn't make it home the battery lasted well into the second day (could maybe even have made it into a 3rd but I never was brave enough to try). I must use my phones a fair bit because of the 5 n95's I had none of them managed this.

My trouble started when I installed Garmin. Even without it actually running my battery would barely last a day. Have now uninstalled it and everything seems fine. I've only lost 2 bars from the battery and I've used wifi and the camera and other features during the day. I have not changed or killed any other process except unistall Garmin.

As a side note, asked in CPW Glasgow) today if they had any issues wth people claiming about dust under the screen and they said I was the first.......

I've removed Garmin and killed the Screencapture process aswell - Before i could finish a charge at 1 am, and it would be down 3 bars by the time i got up for work around 7 am.

As i write this, im still at full bars after about 18 hours.

Thanks for the help.

Mickey

3 days since i charged my phone and took out memory card with garmin on it, only used 3 bars on battery , only txtn and fone calls tho

Jules_N93 wrote:Maybe, Stuclark, not all phone's are identical. In fact, they aren't, as they have different firmware versions. So you might be a bit quick to state that the screencapture-process is not the cause. Especially when other people do suspect that process to be the cause.

Do you know what the "custom version" means? What it adds over the firmware proper?

Saying "battery life is crap" without providing any qualifying information to allow others to test identical setups is what's caused most of the arguments in this thread.

The "custom version" is used to diferentiate things like operator specific builds. For example Vodafone or T-Mobile might want a custom boot logo. However, as (all) 8510s are currently SIM free, the "custom version" shouldn't be anymore customised than languages and pre-installed applications. So *should* be mostly the same.

Of course as posted above, for accurate testing, they need to be IDENTICAL.

p.s. I notice you've now turned off video sharing. No one has mentioned this being turned ON before, so that's another inconcistency...

Well, my battery was finally empty, after 85 hours. So that's absolutely great! I charged it overnight and turned screencapture back on, to test whether or not that did the trick.

Will be interesting to see the results!

Jules_N93 wrote:Well, my battery was finally empty, after 85 hours. So that's absolutely great! I charged it overnight and turned screencapture back on, to test whether or not that did the trick.

If my theory is correct (and if you're using a XXHH7 firmware) then I don't think you'll see any significant difference with screencapture turned back on.

I have Firmware XXHH7 and killing the Screencapture process made a massive difference to my battery. It only lasted about 18 hours with virtually no usage. Killed the process and my battery lasted about 80 hours with low/medium use.

where do i find which firmware i have, its ok . i found it, its xxhh7

30 hours gone by since i recharged my phone with 3� hours of music playback, around 30 minutes of talking and some texting - Still 3 bars left. Best battery life i've ever had on a cell phone with this many features.

My N95 was horrible back in the day - N95 8gb was abit better giving me a day's worth of battery (with ~2 hours of music playback) - My N82 gave me around a day and a half including a couple of hours music playback.

Whether it was the removal of garmin, or the removal of the screencapture app i dont know, but then again, i dont know what the hell the screencapture app does, so i couldnt care less 😊

Thanks guys, for all your hard work. Best phone i've owned to date.

Update: down to 2 bars after 31 hours, 4� hours music playback and 30 minutes of talking. R0x!

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Well, with screencapture turned ON the phone lasted me some 80 hours again.... I'll try turning back on video sharing, see if that drains the battery then.

i emailed samsung to ask for replacement battery and this is their reply -
With regards to your email, before looking at a replacement battery i
would advise you to attempt a recondition of your battery. To do this
you need to run the battery out until the phone turns off,and turn the
phone on until you are unable to do so anymore. Once this is done,then
you need to charge the phone whilst off for a full 14 hours un
disturbed. You should see improvement in the life of the battery,
however if not then please call or email us with a view to organising a
replacement battery or repair of the hanset.

neild2 wrote:i emailed samsung to ask for replacement battery and this is their reply -
With regards to your email, before looking at a replacement battery i
would advise you to attempt a recondition of your battery. To do this
you need to run the battery out until the phone turns off,and turn the
phone on until you are unable to do so anymore. Once this is done,then
you need to charge the phone whilst off for a full 14 hours un
disturbed. You should see improvement in the life of the battery,
however if not then please call or email us with a view to organising a
replacement battery or repair of the hanset.

Wow, that was like... going back to the early day of mobile phones' batteries.
I remember when I got my NK 3350, this was what the seller told me to do. lol

Still, I think it is unlikely that this method will work on the i8510.

right i unstalled Garmin, killed screen capture, and fully charged phone and saw improvements straight away, done this now for the last two weeks, with very little use of the phone and seen battery life last 3 to 5 days before needing a recharge, re installed Garmin and not even used it yet and got up to a flat battery (2 bars) so now Garmin removed i will see how things go now its 4.50pm battery @ 100% lets see how long before 100% flat :S

My battery life is really <REMOVED>. After i gave the phone a hard reset and turned everything off the battery lasts about 13/14 hrs. Oh i have HH9 as firmware.

how do i give my phone a hard reset

neild2 wrote:how do i give my phone a hard reset

Throw it out of the window, preferably onto concrete

srw985 wrote:Throw it out of the window, preferably onto concrete

tried that

neild2 wrote:i emailed samsung to ask for replacement battery and this is their reply -
With regards to your email, before looking at a replacement battery i
would advise you to attempt a recondition of your battery. To do this
you need to run the battery out until the phone turns off,and turn the
phone on until you are unable to do so anymore. Once this is done,then
you need to charge the phone whilst off for a full 14 hours un
disturbed. You should see improvement in the life of the battery,
however if not then please call or email us with a view to organising a
replacement battery or repair of the hanset.

I Hard Reseted the phone did what you said and it really works... How_ Dont know and dont know if there is something with the hard reset or the 0-100% 14hrs!!!

stefan063 wrote:I Hard Reseted the phone did what you said and it really works... How_ Dont know and dont know if there is something with the hard reset or the 0-100% 14hrs!!!

how do i do a hard reset

*#7370#

LouD wrote:My battery life is really <REMOVED>. After i gave the phone a hard reset and turned everything off the battery lasts about 13/14 hrs. Oh i have HH9 as firmware.

For some reason and i don't know why, my battery is up since saturday. I haven't changed anything...

sigh