No, not that hell. Michael Hell, previously of Symbian Freak and a geek after my own heart for the last 5 years, and someone whose opinion I respect. And he's just produced an interesting Top 10 phones of 2009, split into numbers 10 to 6 and then numbers 5 to 1. And the top pick will surprise you, but it's entirely defensible.
Read on in the full article.
Steve,
You are smoking in the new year. Great articles. More please.
Haha..loved the N82, simply amazing even after 2 years. Dropped it so many times you wouldn't believe it, changed the housing twice on my own, and still working like a champ. GPS locks under a minute at the most, cold start in a moving vehicle, with agps turned off (v31 firmware). I'd probably use it for another year before upgrading.
Agreed. N82 STILL blows away my friends who have a random mix of latest smart and non-smartphones, including iPhones and all the rest. Aside from an annoyingly slow UI, which I can forgive most of the time, the N82 is actually the best mobile phone ever produced in the world (though it's a very subjective judgement I realise). Immensely physically robust, superb features, and the all crucial Xenon flash.
NOKIA : PRODUCE AN N82 UPDATE, AND DON'T YOU DARE LEAVE OFF THE XENON! 😊
Yes! Another N82's Reviving Moment! hahah
I completely agree with the choice. N82 is Nokia's masterpiece. Its specs are still (almost) top of the line hardware wise, there's no other phone like it.
Wow, this Hell guy has a very interesting way of capitalizing and not Capitalizing.. 😃
Strange article. A 2 year old phone as the winner and an unreleased phone in the top 5?!
Hey Steve, lets do an article from the other side now - the top worst phones.
Lets do a real comparison of these phones, old and new, and see how they perform in real day 2 day situations. I'd really love to see how good a 2year old phone is against the latest and greatest.
malerocks wrote:Hey Steve, lets do an article from the other side now - the top worst phones.
Perfect full QWERTY
600MHz CPU
Rock solid OS
... and a real joy to use.
... That was E72, my phone of the year that's somehow missing from your list...
Nexus one details were released yesterday. Very interesting that this google phone was specified without the dreaded Xenon, but with an LED flash - and a single one at that. Xenon lovers, you are a minor niche. A bit like Tena for men users .
yeah.. i also want to see the top worst phone.. and i want to see the ugliest phone there and the phone with "what's-the-point?" designs... haha.
the HTC Hero with "bend-a-degree" drama might qualify... Motorola units might also shout, "pick me!"
Unregistered wrote:Nexus one details were released yesterday. Very interesting that this google phone was specified without the dreaded Xenon, but with an LED flash - and a single one at that. Xenon lovers, you are a minor niche. A bit like Tena for men users .
Is this either trolling, or do you lack in mental faculties?
How many dedicated cameras have LED flashes? Thats mmmm, none.
I've got a compact that has a bright white LED, but thats used as a focus assist and a VIDEO light. LEDs are utterly useless for still images, Xenon flashes still absolutely rule for still images.
So you're basically saying that every dedicated camera and its XENON flash is part of a niche?
clonmult wrote:Is this either trolling,
Nope. It's the truth.
clonmult wrote:
or do you lack in mental faculties?
No, but evidently you do.
clonmult wrote:
How many dedicated cameras have LED flashes? Thats mmmm, none.
No relevance. Phone cameras are crap. No point in putting a good flash on a crap camera. Dedicated cameras, even cheap ones are better.
clonmult wrote:
I've got a compact that has a bright white LED, but thats used as a focus assist and a VIDEO light. LEDs are utterly useless for still images, Xenon flashes still absolutely rule for still images.
Whoopee doo. So what you need is a dedicated camera then.
Tiny little slit Xenon flashes are useless beyond a couple of metres. And in most daylight scenarios. That leaves a few shots of people pulling silly poses at parties.
clonmult wrote:
So you're basically saying that every dedicated camera and its XENON flash is part of a niche
Nope. That's you that said that. I said that phones with Xenon flashes are niche.
When you have got a spare 5 minutes, ask your carer to help you count up all the phones on the market that have a Xenon flash. Then count the ones that have NO flash, and then count the ones that have LED flashes. Look at the top selling phones, the market leaders etc. Look at the newest and latest phone recently announced. You should find that the Xenon equipped phones are in a very tiny minority. Supply and demand, market forces and all that. Then check out the current modern usage for the word 'niche' in such a context.
My niche applies to the requirement for xenon flashes in a phone.
Perhaps you would like a phone with a hot-shoe and slave unit trigger, and you could have an assistant with you at all times to hold a reflector disc.
You might not like the fact that your xenon requirement is not very high on the priority list for the vast majority of phone buyers, and that fact makes it not worth bothering with for the manufacturers. But it's the truth.
FW.
At least you made more sense then.
You made it out that having a xenon flash was a niche, maybe just bad wording, or my misunderstand, apologies.
But when you say that phone cameras are rubbish, regardless of the flash, you were basically ... wrong.
They aren't necessarily great, but I've taken plenty of side-by-side pictures with a compact point and shoot and the old N73 to know that at least that phone had optics that would equal a reasonable compact. It only lacked in a decent flash. The W810 was also very good, and I prefered the colour balance to most cameras I've had since (bar the DSLR). And you could add on a xenon flash to the W810 that worked incredibly well - good range, could easily work on a night out.
Interestingly the better cameras seem to be those with lower pixel counts. Images taken on the N95/N85 don't look as good as that on the N73.
The optics in a mobile camera can be very good, so please stop spouting the same old recycled rubbish about them being lousy. Some are. Some aren't. Exactly the same as on a dedicated camera - some are lousy, some are good.
Maybe some time I'll try to find the time to get a selection of pictures taken with a range of cameras/phones, in different circumstances. Could be quite worthwhile. N73 against an SLR .... should be fun.
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Steve - you are usually accurate but not this time. Please note that Michael Hell gives his top nine and not his top ten. Just one more phone, Michael, to make a top ten! 😊