hduty wrote:Brighthand insists on that it can NOT do voice calls (non-VoIP).I think we need a definite answer on this one, I know Litchfield said it is a phone as well but at this point we need a source from Nokia confirming it.
Look at the picture of the phone alongside other phones at the beginning of the article. What function is the N9000 performing there?
Does anyone know if this things has a digital compass?
Jejoma wrote:Have all you people out there raving over this machine actually tried the 770, 800 or 810? I have. I had a 770 followed by an 800 and raved over them telling everyone how wonderful they were.Then I bought an E71. I haven't touched my 800 since. Why? One word - Maemo. It's for geeks only. A lot of hard work to get a poor replication of a program that can be downloaded with little effort on the E71.
So all you geeks who love playing with your phone / internet tablet for hours will think it is wonderful it but anyone that actually wants a useful tool . . .
At a slight tangent, it would be interesting to see how it lined up against the i8910 in real world usage.
I have an E71 and a N810. I use the N810 far more often than the E71. The web and Google Reader is the single biggest reason though. Try using Reader on the E71 with more than a couple of news feeds.
As a net device the N8x0 cannot be beaten. And with having its own data connection and much faster processor the N900 will be the ultimate mobile browser.
UKJeeper wrote:Did you actually read this thread? I also posted that i had forgotten Wayfinder as an option.Yes, it can download SOME of the listed maps automatically, assuming you have a data connection. When you are driving around (when you actually NEED a satnav) your data connection is your 3g phone (via blutooth). My 3g phone had several completed satnav options already installed. Why would i use my 3g data connection on my satnav phone to download maps to a poor relation of a satnav solution?
I used to use Maemo mapper when out walking (again, via the 3g/bluetooth on my E90, killing the batteries on both devices), using the satellite imagery option. But the images weren't that great as Google satelitte maps wouldn't ever load and i'd have to use one of the other, lesser maps. Then i realised "why am i using a device that can't display the maps that i need when i can have topo (viewranger) and google earth on one device already?"
"but I wouldn't ever use it for navigation"
There you go, thanks for killing your own argument. Maemo Mapper is a satellite navigation application that you wouldn't use for navigation, either on or off the road.
I answer the thread as I read them. So obviously I haven't read the last messages.
I said at the beginning that Maemo Mapper isn't a sat-nav application. It is a mapping tool, but not much more.
I used it as a replacement for SportsTracker when I was without a BT GPS unit. It was good for that and I got several hours of GPS tracking out of the N810, even with an open BT connection through the phone.
I have also run Wayfinder and Maemo Mapper at the same time in the car. One for navigation and the other to record the trip.
On the portrait vs landscape mode issue, the Maemo phone page has a clue:
http://maemo.nokia.com/features/phone/
"Make a call by simply rotating your device from landscape to portrait mode. From the desktop or dashboard, all it takes is a twist of your wrist to instantly access the phone application."
Which kind of suggests that the only thing you use portrait mode for is the phone app.
Regarding the "is it a phone or not?" question, while they don't explicitly say you can use the GSM/3G radio for making calls, can anyone really believe Nokia would include a 3G radio and then only have software support for SIP or Skype calls?
I think they are just trying to separate the N900 from the N97 in the mind of the buyer by de-emphasising the phone features and talking up the web side of the phone. In the same way they remove media apps and games from E-series devices in some feeble marketing department led attempt to make them appear more businesslike.
mvn wrote:@Tzer2
Celios, all devices from all manufacturers are at their worst at their release. It's inevitable that anything which is used by millions of people will have bugs that the testers didn't notice, simply because millions of people using something will always spot more problems than hundreds of workers testing something.
All complex machines or devices have problems, but the measure of a company (and it's long-term viability) is how they deal with them.
Problems are seem by progressive companies as an opportunity to impress the customer with service and solutions. They are still fitting defective parts to the N97 and pretending there isn't a problem.
Unregistered wrote:I have an E71 and a N810. I use the N810 far more often than the E71. The web and Google Reader is the single biggest reason though. Try using Reader on the E71 with more than a couple of news feeds.As a net device the N8x0 cannot be beaten. And with having its own data connection and much faster processor the N900 will be the ultimate mobile browser.
I have an N810. It tends to be the stay at home for casual browsing or taking away on trips rather than a carry everywhere device. I can see this thing being about the same. It's smaller than an iPhone in every way but depth, however, like the iPhone the N900 is still too large and bulky to be truly portable.
Unregistered wrote:I have an N810. It tends to be the stay at home for casual browsing or taking away on trips rather than a carry everywhere device. I can see this thing being about the same. It's smaller than an iPhone in every way but depth, however, like the iPhone the N900 is still too large and bulky to be truly portable.
Reminds me of the N80, I declined to get one of those because it was just so fat. Then the N95 came out and I was sold. Hopefully the N910 will cure the fatness problems of a 17.5mm thick device. At least 5mm need to go off that to make this almost a proper carry-about.
hduty wrote:Brighthand insists on that it can NOT do voice calls (non-VoIP).I think we need a definite answer on this one, I know Litchfield said it is a phone as well but at this point we need a source from Nokia confirming it.
Nemoi wrote:This is getting ridicilous. In Germany, where you can already preorder the N900 (http://shop.nokia.de/nokia-de/product.aspx?sku=6958534§ion_id=912&culture=de-DE) - shipment expected for 1. October for 599� btw - it states more plainly than brighthand can ever refuse:"Es ist ein Mobiltelefon. Und ein Computer."
-> "It is a mobile phone. And a computer."
What more proof do you want?
After I posted that I found the page you posted, in English:
http://europe.nokia.com/find-products/devices/nokia-n900#/main/internet
I'm convinced.
Unregistered wrote:With a 1320 mAh capacity battery one would need to charge this unit twice a day.
My concern as well... not even a day I suppose:frown:
eccleshill wrote:I did buy an N97. And I am pissed 😡
I understand that... 🙄
Unregistered wrote:Is there a fm radio in this device?
Yes, it has, see here:
http://www.forum.nokia.com/devices/N900
It looks absolutely great... this should have been announced at the first place, than N97.
But my concern is; Where is Nokia heading? :con?
- Maemo seems to be fully capable touch OS but will it have software support like symbian has?
- Will it support N-Gage or the games at all? It should with the spec and screen resolution it has.
- Will Samsung or Sony Erricson develop devices for Maemo? I'll prefer Samsung for it's OLED screen.
Maemo seems more promising than Symbian. S60 5th Edition never came upto the point of current devices. If it doesn't grow like the Apple iPhone OS, it'll be a shame.
a little mistake at the top there it says WVGA is 800X600 i believe it should be 800X480
slitchfield wrote:Yes, it's a phone as well. A big one though 8-)
A big one? So what?
What's the obsession with tiny little phones and their dinky little screens? Have you tried doing any extended browsing on a 2,4 inch screen? It will make you vomit.
I'm myself glad that Symbian is being relegated to mid to low tier phones.
Go Maemo!
Arthur wrote:A big one? So what?What's the obsession with tiny little phones and their dinky little screens? Have you tried doing any extended browsing on a 2,4 inch screen? It will make you vomit.
It has to do with being encumbered by enourmous slabs like the iPhone that don't fit properly in a jeans pocket and weigh more than an American. If you are going to have the device about your person all the time then it's preferable not to have to buy a backpack or an airport case with wheels to lug the thing around in.
For extended browsing, I would prefer a 15 inch screen. For out and about, quick lookups etc, smaller screens are much better unless you are a total and utter geek.
[QUOTE=morpheus2702;434966]Definitely the most exciting release from Nokia since the N95.
4. I wonder how the N900 will fare in portrait mode? The emphasis seems to be predominantly on the landscape experience.
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Something to realize about the design... In landscape mode the N8XX has a funny balance and I use it either with the keyboard open, or with the kick stand open and my fingers around that....I noticed in the video that the users are doing the same thing - keyboard open. Any N8xx users do the same?
Arthur wrote:A big one? So what?What's the obsession with tiny little phones and their dinky little screens? Have you tried doing any extended browsing on a 2,4 inch screen? It will make you vomit.
I'm myself glad that Symbian is being relegated to mid to low tier phones.
Go Maemo!
Have the screen as wide as you like, but 19mm thick is a little too much. A version without the hardware keyboard would make it a fair bit thinner... bet they've thought of that already though... N901 anyone?
Unregistered wrote:Maemo 5 has been in development for 3 years already and has had several beta releases so far; meaning if you have a nokia n810 you can load a beta release of Maemo 5 and see how it runs, although the n810 has significantly slower hardware compared to the n900. From my tests it seems to be bugless for the exception of a couple of rare mispellings.
I know the SDK has been released.... Please point me to the M5 beta for the N810 ( Don't believe it exists.) Since as far as I'm aware the N900 is the only device that will rune Maemo 5 currently.
TheSpecialBoy wrote:what about document handling.
no word about this yet. is there any hope?
Forum Nokia N900 details page says:
"Supported Document Formats: Excel, PDF, Powerpoint, Word. Document format support via installable application (Dataviz)."
So we can expect that Dataviz will release an Office-compatible suite. Let's hope in due time for N900 market launch.
eccleshill wrote:I did buy an N97. And I am pissed 😡
Me too. I feel so... used...
I doubt Nokia made a mistake by putting the N900 on T-Mobile AWS and N97 on AT&T 3G. Unless and until this gets onto anything other than one of the smallest US carriers anyway.
Unregistered wrote:Me too. I feel so... used...
Sand in the vaseline?
Unregistered wrote:Sand in the vaseline?
That's what girlfriends (wives) are for...trickle down!!!
(appologies to techno chicks- that is what BF's are for...)
For those of you who don't know, here are a few tidbits that make this phone awesome.
- You can load any variant of ARM linux, meaning you can load Ubuntu or Android if you want, there's are versions that run on the Nokia N810.
- The N900 will have an s60 emulator so it will be somewhat backwards compatible with s60 apps
- I saw this quite often asked, but yea, the N900 has an FM Receiver and Transmitter, so you can listen to FM radio and transmit music to your car stereo
- Did I mention that it's fully open linux? No HelloOX, no hacking, you have the full operating system at your disposal. It comes with a terminal with root capabilities.
- The N900 will be upgradable to the next version of Maemo, Maemo 6, as every internet tablet has had a guaranteed support for at least 2 future OS's.
- N900 has a PowerVR SGX, Opengl ES 2.0, do i have to say more?
- N900 will support usb HOST!, just like the n810, meaning you can plug in usb drives, hard drives, usb mice, etc. Any usb peripheral will work!
- The N900 is truly powerful, if you have seen the demo video you'll see during the application switcher that programs are updated IN REAL TIME while your switching applications! Video keeps on playing and you can see it WHILE you're alt tabbing, like in windows vista/7
One important feature I would like to see is good stereo speakers such as on the N95 8GB or 5800XM.
A mini boom box will be nice!
The device is quite thick so should be able to bundle in some decent speakers.
C�lios,
I completely agree with you!
I was so often disappointed between the announcement of a product and the reality of this product once bought (remind you the memorable N96 !) that as you said yourself I shall wait before buying this N900 even if this last one presents very interesting specifications indeed !
Jon Pritchard:
What's with the exclusion of a magentometer (compass)? They seem to be a given in all new devices, I thought they just come in the same package as the A-GPS chip?
Phew... a lot of noise and rubbish posted on this thread.
Digging into the specs and community at Meamo.org reveals that this device will not only be a powerful piece of kit but also a versatile platform for the future. For sure previous NIT's are underpowered that lacked application support and ease of use but it seems the developers have worked overtime to update their apps and make the most of the user friendly enviroment Nokia has provided with M5.
Meamo 5 is has come a long way since 4.1 and i for one cant wait to get my hands on that N900, suddenly every other phone is a toy compared to this. 😊
ps: I played with the N97 when it came out and decided you would be a fool to buy the device. It stinks on many levels.
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