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Tom Tom Mobile 5 FIXED on N70!!

287 replies · 134,228 views · Started 23 November 2005

docrob wrote:Hi,
Has anyone heard of V5.0606.2.0.6
11-02-06
AM-84
for N70. Apparently it's available for some N70 handsets. Depends on network.
Rob

I'm intrigued, where did you hear about that?

My set up....

N70 orange debranded & updated to 3.05 version
TomTom 5.20
Fortuna Clip-on BT reciver
Speed cameras activated

Not tried it out much but when i did try it on a 20 min journey, it connected ok (tomtom connected) and worked fine.

Only dropped the sat signal a few times for approx 30 seconds but picked it up again with no input from me, so probably a sat signal problem rather that BT problem.

Will have to try a longer journey to properly test but happy with it so far.

AndyQ above mentiones TomTom 5.62!!!!

Is this a typo or what?

I have noticed a pattern, if i switch on any PIO`s ecept speed cameras, my phone bombs out, all i had was cams, and petrol stations, the phone completely froze 4 times in a row. I had to pull over, take out the battery and reboot, 4 TIMES on a 40 min journey.

I then removed all pio`s but cams, just warn, and it worked fine all they way into work next day.

I had to say this is crap though, whats the point of poi`s if we cant use them.

Sombody has to fix this, i may consider selling the lot and going for a harware car unit only.

oasismark wrote:

AndyQ above mentiones TomTom 5.62!!!!

Is this a typo or what?

Typo - meant 5.20

Yep it is pants that the poi's cant be on the screen but they are still accessible to route to if needed.

Tested mine today without poi's except warn when near and the bloody thing froze (1st time ever!!) after a few miles and rebooted :icon13: tried again and froze again :icon13: :icon13:

Not 100% sure what caused it but i was using a new voice (austin powers) which might of been the problem? but starting to think orange will be getting a call soon for a rma number (still within 14 days 😎 )

Retested today after removing the voices and it froze within 2 mins into my journey so orange was contacted and its now going back :frown:

Hammer1 wrote:Retested today after removing the voices and it froze within 2 mins into my journey so orange was contacted and its now going back :frown:

Is this without any custom POI's? Weird, I've found the method described by others (ie, reboot, offline mode, etc) to have helped a lot. I've done a five hour journey without a single crash/dropped connection.

With regard to the radio issue you mentioned in the 'Is N70 crap' thread, flashing the firmware resolves this. I have v3.05 and its fine.

Hi all, i am getting my vodaphone N70 flashed to the generic 3.05 as we speak, being done in the survus centre bath, just down the road for me, and free too 😊.

I asked him about V5.0606.2.0.6 , and he says it does not exist?, and he has to flash with the generic fw becuase orange and vodaphone will not release there new fw`s yet.

Knobs, ill let you know if it has help and the differences, shud be done in 1-2 hours 😊

Dont want to P**s any one of you guys off but there is a higher software, but its not available to the public right now, it,s 5.0609.2.0.1. It,s from a M8 in Nokia to try out and so far it hasnt made any difference.

That is to say that when I ran the Orangeutang software on ver2, I didnt get any droped signals anyway.

I will update my tom tom software this weekend and report back when I have tried it out a bit.

I run a Fortuna gps and allthough it was a pig to setup and get the BT to work, it seems to be working quit well, probably the nokia software judging by the posts on the subject.

I can only sugest that if your getting droped signals check you sat signal in "change options, roll forward 4 times and see sat gps staus. if it,s gone, more chance your gps is not so good.Maybe?.

Even with new software I did get a white out but then my fingers work fast so maybe I will try to let the software catchup.

somebody maybe know that it is possible to put the tomtom files on my 1GB card(so that I only need one MMC for everything. themes, photo's, tom tom)

Can you people tell me what exact files are to be installed on the phone
and what to be on the MMC.
I think it is good I will use FExplorer to make it easier.

thanks in advance

P.S. I have an N70 and a TomTom Mrk II GPS module

jacko12 wrote:Dont want to P**s any one of you guys off but there is a higher software, but its not available to the public right now, it,s 5.0609.2.0.1. It,s from a M8 in Nokia to try out and so far it hasnt made any difference.

That is to say that when I ran the Orangeutang software on ver2, I didnt get any droped signals anyway.

Hi,
So you're saying that on Orange firmware (HomeScreen), that TomTom and your 3rd party GPS worked fine? Was there a specific method you used to make it work?

Thanks,
Jon

"So you're saying that on Orange firmware (HomeScreen), that TomTom and your 3rd party GPS worked fine"

No jon read the threads, when you reflash you loose the orangeutang software,Mmm nice, much better.

And as far as the third party GPS goes, who says you have to us Nokia???😊

Radio also works mch beter with latest sofware, but dont know about ver3 as I whent straight to the top witht the version that came out on Monday, but please dont ask how you get it, you cant.YET

No special methods used, turn on tt and then the gps.

Anyone know how Rodan got on?

Oh ok, cool, just misunderstood you there when you said "I ran the Orangeutang software on ver2, I didnt get any droped signals anyway."

Yep I've seen another forum with someone on V5 and says its the best fix so far.

Keep us posted on how you get on.

Cheers for the reply.

Jon

Well did have 3 crashes instantly with new fw 😞 but just got me a new external ariel and all sat bars are found, well fast, going to bristol tonight and have to find somewhere, so will let you know how it performs.

I think that the biggest problem is with the gps units droping the signal and not the N70 or the TT???

I sit mine on the dash with a heated windscreen and still no problems.😊

But time will tell,and I will get back soon.

I never dropped the signal once with my globalstat bt338 receiver, it was rock solid even when i had in my glovebox :icon14:

I've read somewhere that people have had trouble with this BT77 receiver and other PDA's - which was solved by fully charging the unit, and then later, switch off, pull out the battery and leave for an hour.

Try that...see if it works...and post back.

Jon

i have wrote in pages 9 to 13 how to cure this i am on version 2 firmware orange it works with any gps reciever and speed camera data base file i repeat FILE>>>>

It will work for all of you even tomtom mobile as well as tomtom mobile 4 to 5 on any of the versions,

1. Go to blutooth in your connect on your N70 then turn off and delete all old pairings of old connections of your gps.
2. Make sure the POI speed camera files are of the following type....
Either the Single filed version and only install the speed cameras file not any others as this causes the problem, OR ASK DES from Borders on this forum, he has compiled all the red lights and speed camera database using tomtoms sofware to create a custom database thats all in one file only.
3. Then reboot your n70.
5. switch on Gps 1st.
6. turn on tomtom.
7. let Tomtom turn on bluetooth.
JOB DONE this will work with any amount of Tomtom POI's and providing you only use one extra file that you have added it wont crash and you can see the cameras before you get to them.
AND yes you can take calls and use the 3d map view.

Hope this helps you all .

Cheers crazyj...just wondering...I probably read but forgot...which GPS receiver do you have?

good question. jon
Does it make a big difference when having a different GPS Bluetooth receiver?

TomTom mkII or the BT77 or something else (without a brand or receivers you can buy on ebay)? Which one works or is the best? price/quality/battery/receiving of gps signal/...

Yup crazyjlondon is right, just use the TOM TOM POI`s, and only speed camera database in a single file, works flawlessly, i have my BT receiver in the boot, where it charges every time i use the car, and it turns itself on anf off every time i use TOMTOM.

So far not had 1 dropout, works very well.

I did get this strange thing where the tomtom soft wud just disapear, and the phone would go back to the desktop, pressing the app button showed the the app had closed, ?, i had this once or twice, but not quite sure what thats all about.

Overal about 5 1 hour journeys and perfect, i do have an external arial though.

Now if only i can get the macdonolds POI`s working 😊.

Hey guys, what is the v6 map?, is it a later up to date version, and wil lit work with 5.20?, not really heard much about it? worth updating?.

Cheers All

But Roden, which receiver do you have? BT77 or an official TomTom Wireless GPS I/II?

Jon

EDIT - CrazyJ has a TomTom Wireless GPS. Looks the BT77 gives trouble...but then I've read people that are using the BT77 :S

Hi im running tomtom version 5.2 gps driver 1.2 and the firmware on my n70 is 2.0539.1.2 19-10-05 RM-84. Im using a 3rd party gps reciever (which works perfect on my pda). I am experiencing the same problems as everyone else freezing up, lossing gps conection etc. i have tried everything that has been sugested in this forum and others but nothing seems to work. Is there a patch/fix out there ???????
i would like to add the software is a cracked version not original (why would you spend all that money on somthing that dont work properley ?) I HAVE considered buying the original but i can see from these and verious forums this is also a problem for the original software. Please let me know if there is a fix for this THANKS DAVE

P.S

Im going to have the firmware updated tomorrow but i dont think this will fix it as others have had this done and still have these problems

It is indeed better to install a cracked version first to test it. I have the original TomTom Navigator 5 (v5.2) bought for my PDA and it works not perfect but OK. I dled the mobile 5.2 for my N70 and it works perfect till now so maybe I will buy it original also. At the moment I use the original TomTom MKII receiver but I'm checking ebay to buy a cheap gps receiver as extra, but maybe then It doesn't work anymore???

thanks for the link. But what I could do is just buy one from ebay and then try it for the N70, when it works good, it's ok, otherwise I try it with my iPaq and hope it will work with it so I can use the TomTom mkII for the N70.

An extra question that popped up in my head today.(not about receivers).
I know you can change the start up screen of a TomTom GO(you just place an other .BMP file on it) but is it possible aswell to change the tomtom start up screen on the N70. I was checking my gallery and saw the files from tomtom in there. and the "TTMOBILE" is the one from the start up screen, I was thinking when I take a picture and give it the same name ("TTMOBILE"😉 maybe I can use that as startup picture for my tomtom mobile.

Think I may have sussed it...I hope I don't jinx it...but it seems 95% reliable if my profile is on SILENT. It dropped out once on a short journey but came back in seconds. Never was like this before. Can you all try it out, with the BT77?

Jon

Dont know if this has already been mentioned regarding TomTom loosing bluetooth connection.
It seems TomTom manages its own paired bluetooth devices and in some cases will conflict with those devices already paired by the phones manager.
The best way to pair bluetooth devices when using TomTom to prevent loss of connectivity when using Nokia N70 is:

Delete all bluetooth devices in the phones connectivity manager. Start TomTom.
Use TomTom's manager to pair the device.
Exit TomTom.
Open the phones connectivity manager and you may see the GPS device listed.
Delete this device again.
Start TomTom and you will notice that the GPS device still exists. Pair this device and TomTom should work fine, no disconnections.
***You must delete the device after pairing for the first time in the phones default connectivity manager***
Obviously if the device exists in 2 seperate connectivity tables, there must be either a conflict or a problem sharing the device.

Try this and let me know if you have any joy.
I used to get disconnected every 10-15 minutes. Since doing this, no more loss of connectivity.

Nibbz