LOCKED:TomTom patch for N95 available now? (warning: scam information in this thread)

Its TomTom who is at fault here,

well.... not really at fault but IMO TomTom is a widely used and is probably regarded as one of the best sat nav apps around (or devices if you have an all-in-one).

Why on earth would this company not anticipate, sorry anticipate is wrong word maybe Nokia sneaked it out so they could grab the market share of sat nav users.....
..... get their ass in gear and release a patch for the worlds first symbian OS smartphone with a built in GPS receiver ASAP?

Just think of the customers they could be winning over right now,
but alas....
people are starting to look elsewhere, myself included,
I am seriously considering navigon's mobile navigator software now.

I feel let down by TomTom's corporate greed, greed based on the stories i have heard about version 7.

FCUK TomTom! shame really.

I've a LEGAL COPY of Tom Tom 6.02 (how many here have that too :icon4: ), and with my external GPS, v6.02 is NOT really functional on the N95!

When navigating with TT 6.02 (in DEMO-mode or real navigating), when the routing instructions are spoken, the screen freezes and is standing still, and after the spoken instructions the screen is "normal" again!

So with or without this patch: v6.02 is not quite stable for the N95!

Don't blaim GPSMidlands, but TomTom; they knew the N95 would be released, and THEY should have come with an update, NOT GPSMidlands!

Route 66 & Navigon have made an update for their program, and it works very well with the internal GPS of the N95 . . .

So, my point:

Blaim TomTom and send your frustrations to their customer-support; they should have made an update available for the N95; they are also selling v6.02 for S60-3rd . . .

But blaiming to TomTom, is for most of the writers here not possible, because they are using an ILLEGAL COPY of Tom Tom, so you've nothing to blaim about!

When you've a legal copy, you've right of speaking!!! (in my opinion!!!)

henklbr wrote:I've a LEGAL COPY of Tom Tom 6.02 (how many here have that too :icon4: ), and with my external GPS, v6.02 is NOT really functional on the N95!

When navigating with TT 6.02 (in DEMO-mode or real navigating), when the routing instructions are spoken, the screen freezes and is standing still, and after the spoken instructions the screen is "normal" again!

So with or without this patch: v6.02 is not quite stable for the N95!

Don't blaim GPSMidlands, but TomTom; they knew the N95 would be released, and THEY should have come with an update, NOT GPSMidlands!

Route 66 & Navigon have made an update for their program, and it works very well with the internal GPS of the N95 . . .

So, my point:

Blaim TomTom and send your frustrations to their customer-support; they should have made an update available for the N95; they are also selling v6.02 for S60-3rd . . .

But blaiming to TomTom, is for most of the writers here not possible, because they are using an ILLEGAL COPY of Tom Tom, so you've nothing to blaim about!

When you've a legal copy, you've right of speaking!!! (in my opinion!!!)

[SIZE="5"]Well Said![/SIZE]

I'm running TomTom v6.02 with my N95 using external GPS receiver and it works flawlessly....I have never seen a screen freeze EVER !!!

can't wait for the patch !!! :icon14:

[SIZE="6"]bartmanekul

You are a complete idiot.[/SIZE]

I'm not on any high horse you nerd.

Im saying that you are obviously slagging off anyone new to forums whom disagree with you. I'm here to get a solution to the problem with the N95. You are here just to slag Gpsmidlands and anyone who tries to defend them

As for putting back delivery times and failing do deliver on time Ive been trying to get a E90 from o2 since June and the delivery has been put back again today until the 20th August. Thats the 14th delivery date i've been given since the initial launch.

Gpsmidlands are no different to anyone else who are at the cutting edge of technology. Launch dates are a waste of time. Sony Ericsson was 18 months late rolling out the P990 and it was still a pile of crap when eventually launched.

Get a life and stop being so negative and while your getting a life get yourself to college and study a bit of software programming then you might be able to offer a solution to all of us.

I dont give a monkeys about these companies and you cant really moan at tomtom because failing to support the latest phones is their loss and route 66/co-pilots gain.

Start being positive mate I've looked at some of your earlier posts nothing to do with this issue and you either are in a crap relationship or you need some stimulating company.

Seek and ye shall find ......and while your there find the bloody patch !!!

sirius-c wrote:Its TomTom who is at fault here,

well.... not really at fault but IMO TomTom is a widely used and is probably regarded as one of the best sat nav apps around (or devices if you have an all-in-one).

Why on earth would this company not anticipate, sorry anticipate is wrong word maybe Nokia sneaked it out so they could grab the market share of sat nav users.....
..... get their ass in gear and release a patch for the worlds first symbian OS smartphone with a built in GPS receiver ASAP?

Just think of the customers they could be winning over right now,
but alas....
people are starting to look elsewhere, myself included,
I am seriously considering navigon's mobile navigator software now.

I feel let down by TomTom's corporate greed, greed based on the stories i have heard about version 7.

FCUK TomTom! shame really.

We all blame tomtom and nokia! The point here is that gpscraplands (love the sound of it) is announcing the solution, building up expectations, gets a lot of attention and free marketing (at least they hoped for it) and then fail to deliever. Perhaps thats proffesional business in you're eyes? (by the way, they also charge people money for phonecalls and don't answer the phone)

They told us that they are making a solution to "all" of there customers who had bought tomtom for use with n95. Why do that if the program doesn't work with n95?

Stop accusing those who criticize for not having a legal copy, how on earth could you know? Hopefully this is a lesson to gpscraplands. Buy learning from there mistakes they still can be winners. Still: Someone needs to tell them what they have done wrong. Agree?

henklbr wrote:I've a LEGAL COPY of Tom Tom 6.02 (how many here have that too :icon4: ), and with my external GPS, v6.02 is NOT really functional on the N95!

When navigating with TT 6.02 (in DEMO-mode or real navigating), when the routing instructions are spoken, the screen freezes and is standing still, and after the spoken instructions the screen is "normal" again!

So with or without this patch: v6.02 is not quite stable for the N95!

Don't blaim GPSMidlands, but TomTom; they knew the N95 would be released, and THEY should have come with an update, NOT GPSMidlands!

Route 66 & Navigon have made an update for their program, and it works very well with the internal GPS of the N95 . . .

So, my point:

Blaim TomTom and send your frustrations to their customer-support; they should have made an update available for the N95; they are also selling v6.02 for S60-3rd . . .

But blaiming to TomTom, is for most of the writers here not possible, because they are using an ILLEGAL COPY of Tom Tom, so you've nothing to blaim about!

When you've a legal copy, you've right of speaking!!! (in my opinion!!!)

So whats the version of Route 66 your using?

Xdaman wrote:[SIZE="6"]bartmanekul

You are a complete idiot.[/SIZE]

I'm not on any high horse you nerd.

Im saying that you are obviously slagging off anyone new to forums whom disagree with you. I'm here to get a solution to the problem with the N95. You are here just to slag Gpsmidlands and anyone who tries to defend them

As for putting back delivery times and failing do deliver on time Ive been trying to get a E90 from o2 since June and the delivery has been put back again today until the 20th August. Thats the 14th delivery date i've been given since the initial launch.

Gpsmidlands are no different to anyone else who are at the cutting edge of technology. Launch dates are a waste of time. Sony Ericsson was 18 months late rolling out the P990 and it was still a pile of crap when eventually launched.

Get a life and stop being so negative and while your getting a life get yourself to college and study a bit of software programming then you might be able to offer a solution to all of us.

I dont give a monkeys about these companies and you cant really moan at tomtom because failing to support the latest phones is their loss and route 66/co-pilots gain.

Start being positive mate I've looked at some of your earlier posts nothing to do with this issue and you either are in a crap relationship or you need some stimulating company.

Seek and ye shall find ......and while your there find the bloody patch !!!

[SIZE="4"]Ooooo..... Fightin' Talk![/SIZE] :biggrin:

loke.nor wrote:We all blame tomtom and nokia! The point here is that gpscraplands (love the sound of it) is announcing the solution, building up expectations, gets a lot of attention and free marketing (at least they hoped for it) and then fail to deliever. Perhaps thats proffesional business in you're eyes? (by the way, they also charge people money for phonecalls and don't answer the phone)

They told us that they are making a solution to "all" of there customers who had bought tomtom for use with n95. Why do that if the program doesn't work with n95?

[SIZE="7"]Stop accusing those who criticize for not having a legal copy, how on earth could you know? [/SIZE]Hopefully this is a lesson to gpscraplands. Buy learning from there mistakes they still can be winners. Still: Someone needs to tell them what they have done wrong. Agree?

[SIZE="2"]You need to read my post that you quoted again, I made no such criticism.
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/forum/showpost.php?p=332206&postcount=276

As for GPS Midlands, Yes their conduct is way out of order, but I'm still hoping its true &
I imagine behind the scenes, big companies are flexing their muscles on this issue[/SIZE]

Xdaman wrote:I dont give a monkeys about these companies and you cant really moan at tomtom because failing to support the latest phones is their loss and route 66/co-pilots gain.

[SIZE="2"]Exactly my point, you may not realise this but generally 'its all about the money',
therefore I am not slagging off GPS Midlands yet over something they might release for free,
but shame on TomTom and all credit to the others (Co-Pilot, Route 66 and Navigon) who got their act together![/SIZE]

Xdaman wrote:[SIZE="6"]bartmanekul

You are a complete idiot.[/SIZE]

I'm not on any high horse you nerd.

Im saying that you are obviously slagging off anyone new to forums whom disagree with you. I'm here to get a solution to the problem with the N95. You are here just to slag Gpsmidlands and anyone who tries to defend them

As for putting back delivery times and failing do deliver on time Ive been trying to get a E90 from o2 since June and the delivery has been put back again today until the 20th August. Thats the 14th delivery date i've been given since the initial launch.

Gpsmidlands are no different to anyone else who are at the cutting edge of technology. Launch dates are a waste of time. Sony Ericsson was 18 months late rolling out the P990 and it was still a pile of crap when eventually launched.

Get a life and stop being so negative and while your getting a life get yourself to college and study a bit of software programming then you might be able to offer a solution to all of us.

I dont give a monkeys about these companies and you cant really moan at tomtom because failing to support the latest phones is their loss and route 66/co-pilots gain.

Start being positive mate I've looked at some of your earlier posts nothing to do with this issue and you either are in a crap relationship or you need some stimulating company.

Seek and ye shall find ......and while your there find the bloody patch !!!

This is going to be a dogfight, looking forward to se Bart's respond😊 Normally I would ask people to pm instead of using threads to do so - but what the heck! This thread stopped being constructive a long time a go😉

Who's winning round on? (my money is on Bart:icon14: )

how [SIZE="7"]big[/SIZE] is that font??

Hi Loke Nor

Its not a dogfight and I'm not here to have a go at anybody.

The other guy is the negative one.

Check his posts mate.

I'm a programmer by trade and I cant stand people having a go when they are absolutely bang out of order.

If this guy is so clever with his PMs why cant he produce a patch

Check his previous posts and tell me he hasnt got a problem.

Lets be [SIZE="6"]CONSTRUCTIVE [/SIZE] and move on.

Ask Gpsmidlands to give us the latest information(politely). We just might get a response !!!

Where are you Gpsmidlands tell us how far you have got or are you just like tomtom, o2 or Sony Ericsson blah blah blah !!

Sigh.

First, please stop doing the big text. Its not clever, its not going to make a point, and quite frankly its annoying to everyone.

You being a programmer doesnt mean anything at all if you dont have any business sense, or sense at all.

Next, point out where I have slagged anyone off. Only thing I have done is told you to get off the high horse, which tbh is reasonable considering you blazed in with large text shouting 'Negative!!' when I have only been telling the truth.

In fact, I have tried to help anyone I can with my limited knowlage, as well as provide solutions for other satnav programs. Didnt mention that in looking at my past posts did you?

I understand at least as much, or more than you do about things being delayed, especially programming (I work with an office full or programmer/developers where we make software for other companies including ourselves). And thats not a boast, its simply that I understand the matter.

Im not going to go over it all again, Iball and Dev have said it all really. Its just not worth repeating.

Oh and perhaps you will notice that I havent actually slagged off GPS midlands. Ive simply given my opinion, and said I will be extremely unhappy if it turns out Ive been personally lied too.

Clever with PMs? Make a patch myself? Dont turn this into childish insults.

Comments like this:

Start being positive mate I've looked at some of your earlier posts nothing to do with this issue and you either are in a crap relationship or you need some stimulating company.

Get a life and stop being so negative and while your getting a life get yourself to college and study a bit of software programming then you might be able to offer a solution to all of us.

..are quite frankly beneath me and others. Until you start conversing like an adult I shall not bother to reply to anymore of your posts.

Xdaman wrote:Hi Loke Nor

Its not a dogfight and I'm not here to have a go at anybody.

The other guy is the negative one.

Check his posts mate.

I'm a programmer by trade and I cant stand people having a go when they are absolutely bang out of order.

If this guy is so clever with his PMs why cant he produce a patch

Check his previous posts and tell me he hasnt got a problem.

Lets be [SIZE="6"]CONSTRUCTIVE [/SIZE] and move on.

Ask Gpsmidlands to give us the latest information(politely). We just might get a response !!!

Where are you Gpsmidlands tell us how far you have got or are you just like tomtom, o2 or Sony Ericsson blah blah blah !!

First you are calling someone an idiot then you're trying to stand out as the constructive one? Please don't throw rocks when you're standing in a house of glass:icon4:

PS! Just read Bart's answer - seems like he's the constructive one. 1 - 0 Bart😊

lol. Im not after a fight, which is why I wont reply unless he has a constructive answer thats not full of petty insults.

I would be interested to hear what answers people have got from tomtom on this issue. I have sent a number of requests, and all I ever get is stock responses. Mostly like 'we are constantly testing new devices, and add them to the list when we are happy they are stable.'

They have never even confirmed they will support the N95!

Sicilian wrote:So whats the version of Route 66 your using?

My Route 66 is LEGAL . . . !

The so called "cracked"-version is 486; have you saw already 545? It's on the net, but NOT cracked!

Overhere, in the Netherlands, v545 is for sale; this version is special made for the N95!

Petty insults

Check your previous posts mate.

All I'm going to say is you obviously spend your time on forums like this.

Give us your background ?

Are you a phone specialist or a satellite navigation expert or maybe even a software guy ?

My argument is this :

All solutions take time. I work in network development and it is one huge learning curve. Sometimes you get it right sometimes you dont.

I'm not a nokia programmer but if it was that easy 75% of these forums would have resolutions and not snide comments.

For all I know gpsmidlands may be total w******* but to say they are charging for calls is ridiculous.

Lets repeat it again o2 0870 420 **** Sony Ericsson 08707 737*** ...they all do it mate but these people charge you for the kit when available gpsmidlands is not charging a thing from what i can see

If I was supplying a patch everyone would pay. I would stick it on ebay and make a fortune.

Just think, you need to sit back and work it out. I think gpsmidlands have made a huge mistake by offering it for free(if and when available). i have emailed them and asked if I could buy it and I got a straight no.

Maybe they have had a change of heart and thought stuff this we could make a fortune cos all these donkeys on these forums are just not clever enough to sort it themselves.

...or maybe they are working on it as we speak(like I do with programming way into the small hours) and thinking we need to get this sorted.

Either way they cant win now.

Dammed if they do Damned if they dont.

bartmanekul wrote:lol. Im not after a fight, which is why I wont reply unless he has a constructive answer thats not full of petty insults.

I would be interested to hear what answers people have got from tomtom on this issue. I have sent a number of requests, and all I ever get is stock responses. Mostly like 'we are constantly testing new devices, and add them to the list when we are happy they are stable.'

They have never even confirmed they will support the N95!

I'll agree with this; I've sent also emails to the Dutch customer support of TomTom, and all what I get in response, are the standard answers (i.e. N95 is currently not supported yet etc . . .)

I understood, that for the PDA/WM5-models, TT6.03 supports internal GPS; is it so difficult to implement this function also for the S60-3rd phones?

TT is going the wrong way in this, and will lose customers who switch over to i.e. R66 or Navigon.

They couldn't tell me when an update of the program is scheduled . . .

And, about GPSMidland: indeed, they could better delete the sentence that a mod is available on their website and change that in soon available (or something like that).
I think, it's a good case to test the patch very carefully; it's not so good when the patch is released now, and there's something wrong with the software and your phone must be returned to a NSP because your phone is doing nothing anymore!
On the other hand: if GPSM is able to make this patch, why can't the TT software-engineers?

Petty insults

Check your previous posts mate.

Why dont you, and perhaps post the bits where I did?

All I'm going to say is you obviously spend your time on forums like this.

Yep. Whats wrong with that?

Give us your background ?

Why?

Are you a phone specialist or a satellite navigation expert or maybe even a software guy ?

More hardware, but whats that got to do with anything? I havent claimed to know anything I dont.

My argument is this :

All solutions take time. I work in network development and it is one huge learning curve. Sometimes you get it right sometimes you dont.

I'm not a nokia programmer but if it was that easy 75% of these forums would have resolutions and not snide comments.

At last, a semi sensible point.

You just made that statistic up. Fact is, you dont have any idea about it. And I have never claimed its easy. Thats not the point, not the point at all. I understand things take time. The whole point is here, is that people are being pissed about, and possibly being lied to. I dont see why your slagging me off, calling me an idiot and a nerd (ironic when your the programmer) when I am not the one calling GPS midlands names.

For all I know gpsmidlands may be total w******* but to say they are charging for calls is ridiculous.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=0871+numbers&meta=

Lets repeat it again o2 0870 420 **** Sony Ericsson 08707 737*** ...they all do it mate but these people charge you for the kit when available gpsmidlands is not charging a thing from what i can see

Indeed they do, but they are not the ones in discussion. And also, thats not quite the point here. I keep telling you its not to do with the waiting, but more the feeling people have been lied to. And they already have, 3 people (including me) have been told it will be ready on xx which has long past.

As you say, could be a particuarly difficult thing holding them up, but on the other hand they came on this forum and were slightly sarky to all on how easy it was. And they havent said of any problems. Or given updates.

If I was supplying a patch everyone would pay. I would stick it on ebay and make a fortune.

Me too.

Just think, you need to sit back and work it out. I think gpsmidlands have made a huge mistake by offering it for free(if and when available). i have emailed them and asked if I could buy it and I got a straight no.

Maybe they have had a change of heart and thought stuff this we could make a fortune cos all these donkeys on these forums are just not clever enough to sort it themselves.

Then perhaps they should do the sensible thing and stop saying its available soon, or 'very soon', and also take off the 'N95 tomtom patch available now!' text on the homepage of the website no?

And if they decide to charge, it would be going against what they told me, and also they should have the decency to tell people its not going to be for free.

They are not damned if they do, it would be vindication as far as they are concerned.

I have taken this from the gpsmidlands homepage

Seems like standard technical development term to me

For the unitiated like alpha & beta testing.

E90 was 7 months in beta development according to other forums

[CENTER]Nokia N95 Patch

Use the N95 Internal GPS Receiver with

TomTom

We are amending the source code and the new solution will be available shortly !!

Please note this patch will be free of charge and will not include the TomTom Navigator 6 symbian 60 V3 software

We have submitted the amended patch for corporate trials and will notify all interested parties by email.

The download link will only work on a single device in order to prevent fraudulent publication through auction sites.

Please do not email or call as all information will be made available through this home page.[/CENTER]

Seems like standard technical development term to me

OMFG, are you serious????😮

No more petty insults

The reference is standard practice but where they have gone seriously wrong is publishing it.

Though shortly could mean anything

I personally think they have made a huge mistake.

Ive just emailed them and asked if I can see it in person.

If and when I get a reply I will post it

Xdaman wrote:No more petty insults

The reference is standard practice but where they have gone seriously wrong is publishing it.

Though shortly could mean anything

I personally think they have made a huge mistake.

Ive just emailed them and asked if I can see it in person.

If and when I get a reply I will post it

Now you're being constructive. Looking forward to hear about they're respond😊

wow loads of new crap to read.....

mr Xdaman please tell me what are gpsmid are offering? i aint seen anything just some words on their website and few claims which has attracted loads of visitors to their website which said " n95 tomtom patch for internal GPS now available". This was up till today... so all they "offered" is words and some bullshit which is a fact.
They have told ppl different things, a friend of mine called as well as others on the forums and was told it was going to be released that evening but nothing.

all they had to do was say they have made a patch and will release when its ready from that start and not say its working fine then say source code needs tweaking, our dog is testing it and will be out today .....

they even go and say how easy it is, then release the info since your e-penis is so big so that maybe some else can make it and tomtom really cant do shite.

all i'm saying they are taking the piss a little even if its free

All they had to do was get reliable third-party confirmation that it works.
Send the patch to someone well-known in the S60/N95 "community" (read: a trustworthy blogger or someone like that) and let them try it out and report on it.
Failed on that too.

Soon....very soon....avaliable now....
Serious people?
I've started to lough three week ago...
Have I yuor permission to continue?
I repeat : I'll believe them when the patch is really working in my N95.
the rest is bla bla bla...

monica _69 wrote:I'm running TomTom v6.02 with my N95 using external GPS receiver and it works flawlessly....I have never seen a screen freeze EVER !!!

Same Here - perhaps the user having problems has enabled lots of POIs.

TomTom has always been unreliable on Symbian phones when lots of POIs are set to display on the map at all times.

dez_borders wrote:Same Here - perhaps the user having problems has enabled lots of POIs.

TomTom has always been unreliable on Symbian phones when lots of POIs are set to display on the map at all times.

:icon14: Thanks for the info, very useful:icon14:

Xdaman wrote:
Im saying that you are obviously slagging off anyone new to forums whom disagree with you. I'm here to get a solution to the problem with the N95. You are here just to slag Gpsmidlands and anyone who tries to defend them

As for putting back delivery times and failing do deliver on time Ive been trying to get a E90 from o2 since June and the delivery has been put back again today until the 20th August. Thats the 14th delivery date i've been given since the initial launch.

Gpsmidlands are no different to anyone else who are at the cutting edge of technology. !!

We all started out excited and praising GPScraplands for the forthcoming patch.

After 3 weeks+ of repeated failed launch dates, misinformation from staff (they told me by telephone that the patch would be FREE then 15 minutes later emailed me saying they would charge £29.99), the unmanned premium rate telephone lines, the GPSM director slagging AAS users off in this thread, etc., many of us now have a very low opinion of GPScraplands.

Now we realise they are a 2nd rate company who has managed to increase revenue from their 0871 premium-rate sales line, but at the expense of their online reputation.
They only put a message on their website saying not to call the telephone number about the patch after we threatened to report them to Offcom.

If the patch is so simple to write (as GPSM claim) they should have released it weeks ago.
Otherwise they should admit it does not exist and remove all reference to it from their website.

At present any potential customer researching GSPMidlands via google will be seeing a very negative picture of the company, and deservedly so.

P.S. Judging from your shoody use of oversized fonts and poor presentation in your posts, I am tempted to believe you are actually the GPScraplands web designer in disguise trying to anonymously defend the company's tattered image...

Keep on writing boys :icon14: It's very entertaining. To follow all comments in this thread is better than any soap opera on TV.

(...one is however tempted to place a comment like "..someone desperatly needs to get a life.." but I won't. It might stop you from commenting, and what would I do then, watch TV??..)

😉