LOCKED:TomTom patch for N95 available now? (warning: scam information in this thread)

why i see on gpsmidlands page this:

Nokia N95 Patch to Use Internal Receiver with TomTom Software
Available Now !!!

andyy wrote:why i see on gpsmidlands page this:

Nokia N95 Patch to Use Internal Receiver with TomTom Software
Available Now !!!

Andy it has been sayin that for the last 3 weeks since i have been on here other users will enlighten mayb further!!!

The wait is killing me too!!! 😮

Thanks, I've just noticed this small text and was for a minute or two happy that there's a progress then I've read your post 😡 🙄

the_dvd_guru wrote:tbh i happy with route66!!

Yea I think its great also, only thing I dont like is that you can import safety cameras.

Sicilian wrote:Spoke to GPS Midlands this morning, they told me the patch has been approved & that they hope to release it today.

They are clowns 😡

loke.nor wrote:LOL, when do they close, LOL
If they don't give us a date by tomorrow, let's get dirty also! For example; let's start a new thread named "bad service from xxx.gpsmidlands.co.uk " and then post stories about lying to potential customers😊

Childish you think? Agree - but it would feel great:icon14: 🙄

It's a good idea :icon14:

This forum is scary !!

You have a company who is trying to help you and they are being slagged off something rotten. This thread is over 2 weeks old so whats the problem.

I emailed tomtom in reference to the n95 over 5 weeks ago and they havent even sent me a sensible reply yet.

If I could write software I would have sorted it by now and put it on ebay and made a fortune but if I was gpsmidlands I would say stuff you cos all you lot have done is write crap not software.

Surely there is some1 who can sort it and then we wont need anyone else.

Hey you Bartmankel never mind the private messages what about YOU sorting it.

So sad mate so very sad and I dont care if I upset you mate cos you all too [SIZE="6"]NEGATIVE[/SIZE] man !!

Aww, another GPScraplands shill getting a little pissy?

Xdaman wrote:This forum is scary !!

You have a company who is trying to help you and they are being slagged off something rotten. This thread is over 2 weeks old so whats the problem.

I emailed tomtom in reference to the n95 over 5 weeks ago and they havent even sent me a sensible reply yet.

If I could write software I would have sorted it by now and put it on ebay and made a fortune but if I was gpsmidlands I would say stuff you cos all you lot have done is write crap not software.

Surely there is some1 who can sort it and then we wont need anyone else.

Hey you Bartmankel never mind the private messages what about YOU sorting it.

So sad mate so very sad and I dont care if I upset you mate cos you all too [SIZE="6"]NEGATIVE[/SIZE] man !!

1. Theres no proof they are trying to help.

2. Doesnt matter about the age of the thread. GPS midlands have repeatedly told various people it will out on 'xx' when it hasnt. One of these people has been me. By their own dates given, they have missed them.

3. Whats tomtom's lack of response got to do with it?

4. Arguably, so could GPS midlands, in fact I was told they were offered over £2000 for it. Ive been looking for alternate software and posting results on this board, which is more helpful than GPS midlands have been so far.

5. Why are you so bothered about my private messages? All I have tried to do is find out if GPS midlands are telling the truth. If they are, they will be thankful if I can verify it!

6. Dont worry, a newcomer suspiciously sympathetic to GPSM calling me negative wont upset me.

In short, while some people have been a little out of line, its mainly been GPS midlands fault for hashing it all up.

Seriously, what do you expect when you offer something many people need/want for free and keep saying its ready, when its not? Not to mention their story is full of holes. Said it before and I'll say it again, ifs its true everyones a winner. But people need some actual proof of it existing rather than just meaningless statements.

if the patch is available why they not uploading a video with working tomtom with the internal gps?
i repeat they are bad clowns...

Is really someone who still believe them?
This story stink...
Gpsmidland has lost every credibility
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For GPS Midlands (whom I know is reading this):

Please provide a copy of the letter/email TomTom sent you informing you that your previous patch was to be taken offline. Feel free to blank out any details you need to.

lol......I double dare you !!
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I dont give a crap about Gpsmidlands.

What i am saying that is there are a lot of sad people on this forum who seem happy to slag people off whom are trying to assist them.

My experience of software issues are quite substantial and i know half the stuff available for symbian 60 (3) only works partially and if you complain you get all sorts of bull from the people who sell the software.

If you are lucky you might get a refund but hang on a minute this gpsmidlands are not even asking for any dosh.

Get real folks why dont you email tomtom like I have and ask them to provide a proper solution then we will all be happy to be ripped off for 70 quid.

And if you think about it who cares more tomtom or gpsmidlands about this issue .....tomtom of course cos they are making the money and they probably dont give a shi* about this forum anyway otherwise they would reply to you.

Sadly, it didnt come to fruitation.

I asked tomtom if they had asked GPS midlands to stop the patch from being downloaded, but tomtom did a blatent cut n paste 'we dont talk about third parties' thing, along with exactly the same thing before about them supporting devices etc.

They simply could have said 'yes we have had dealings with them' or 'No we havent' just to stop people wondering. But no, tomtom are typical in their crap support, which tbh seems to be getting worse.

Anyway, not that it matters. GPSM have said the patch will be ready so many times to different people I think most have made up their minds anyway.

Edit:

XDAman -

In case you havent noticed, most people are not slagging them off. Its a few people only. This thread has had thousands of viewings, and I daresay 1000s of people want a decent satnav solution on the N95 using the internal reciever.

Your expirence means what? Are you trying to say they are spending this time in getting it right? So how does that explain the 3 (at least) deadlines they told people about flying by?

And I suggest you keep up. So many people have emailed tomtom about this, its unreal. No-one has got any sort of decent response.

And how is it ripped off for £70? Its arguably the best satnav software out there, not to mention your paying for the uptodate mapping. Presumably you think things should be done for free?

So get off your damned high horse, saying you dont care (why would you comment then?). Its obvious many people do, because they want it sorted.

And I and others have already said, we dont mind paying for this patch at all, we simply want to know whats going on. However it looks like we have been lied to. Perhaps your fine with that but Im not.

And if GPS Midlands want to stop me from putting what I think about them high in google searches, they had better do something.

Even if they tried to get it working and cant, thats fine with me. I will however want proof, because not only did they insult everyone on this forum, they told me it was all but done over a week ago.

To be fair, I'd have been highly surprised if any company was willing to comment on cuch a third party connection. I agree TomTom's support is somewhat sketchy historically though.

As for GPSM, if the patch exists they're hardly likely to expedite it's delivery given the abuse they're getting. If it comes and works, great. If it doesn't then we're no worse off than we are now.

I honestly do not understand all the strong, negative reactions.

Some people here are acting like somebody who already paid and does now not get the delivery. I would perfectly understand that. But you did not pay for anything, just somebody made you hot - okay.

And - before you say that - nobody forced anybody call any expensive phone-lines.

Don't get me wrong, I would also love to have my TT6 running on my lovely N95 without BT GPS, I can just not understand why people are so impatient and are acting like it was important.

Just my 2cents.
PM

dmcconachie wrote:To be fair, I'd have been highly surprised if any company was willing to comment on cuch a third party connection. I agree TomTom's support is somewhat sketchy historically though.

As for GPSM, if the patch exists they're hardly likely to expedite it's delivery given the abuse they're getting. If it comes and works, great. If it doesn't then we're no worse off than we are now.

100% ACK.

pardon my ignorance, ACK??

PMitchell wrote:I honestly do not understand all the strong, negative reactions.

Heartily agree though!!:icon14:

I understand that but be honest mate wouldn't you think it would be better if someone with an ounce of nokia development skill could devise a solution.

I was told when I rang them up that I'm welcome to come down to their birmingham office to see it installed for myself. They also said that the website mentions peoplew not to ring or email until the site lets people know. They are probably sick of all the calls, after all what are they getting out of it. I spoke to nokia about the problem and they said they are aware of at least 3 companies who are trying to solve the problem

gpsmidlands are obviously worried that letting the patch go out to people might cause big problems somewhere.

leave em to it cos if it works fine if it dont we just carry on with our external gps

dmcconachie wrote:pardon my ignorance, ACK??

Heartily agree though!!:icon14:

ACK (computing), a signal used in computing and other fields to indicate acknowledgement, including:[...] (From wikipedia).

😊
Regards,
PM

Indeed, I shall leave this subject now, unless anything else comes up.

As I said before, I would beleive its true but for the phone lines. Yes, the webby does say dont ring or email about it now, but then thats after it got a lot of interest and the 10p per min was mentioned.

Theres just too many holes in the story for me. MPO is that it was a simple tactic to get a bit of extra visitors to the site, and then got too much interest.

So unable to come clean, its then caught in a lie, and thus the snowball effect we have seen. I reckon they are hoping and preying for TT to relase the next version, or a patch themselves.

The above is MPO only.

Still, if it does arrive that would be good.

Xdaman wrote:I understand that but be honest mate wouldn't you think it would be better if someone with an ounce of nokia development skill could devise a solution.

I was told when I rang them up that I'm welcome to come down to their birmingham office to see it installed for myself. They also said that the website mentions peoplew not to ring or email until the site lets people know. They are probably sick of all the calls, after all what are they getting out of it. I spoke to nokia about the problem and they said they are aware of at least 3 companies who are trying to solve the problem

gpsmidlands are obviously worried that letting the patch go out to people might cause big problems somewhere.

leave em to it cos if it works fine if it dont we just carry on with our external gps

well some one rang them yesterday and they said they was going to put it up yesterday....why lie?

and why not release it if there is problems then we can just carry on with our external.....

its a not a TomTom official patch so we wont expect it to be 100% tbh tomtom aint even 100%

I agree fully with XDAMAN, I myself am a SQL database developer and I am forever missing deadlines and release dates. This is not because I am bad at my job but because development of any kind is littered with unexpected delays. I work for a small software house with limited development recourses, the smallest thing such as a member of the dev team being off sick can push the release date of projects back. I recently broke my ankle and missed a large number of deadlines because I was unable to get into work.

Its not just small companies that have this problem either. Microsoft was forced to release Windows 2000 in 2001 because of development issues, RockStar games have just pushed back the release of GTA4 by up to six months.

The only mistake that GPSM have made has been to not keep the visitor of their website informed to the latest developments.

I am fully aware that what I am saying will have absolutely no value on this forum because having only one post against my name means I am either an idiot who has accidentally wander onto this side with looking for pictures of naked girls or some kind of undercover PR agent for GPSM. But in all seriousness, berating the company and calling them names will get you no where.

Of course until the patch is actually released it is possible that I may be wrong about them. But I very much doubt that that is the case, their company would have too much to loose.

I guess the point that I am trying to make is about respect. Give their developers a chance to come up with a good, stable solution. These things take time!

Steve

nicon wrote:I agree fully with XDAMAN, I myself am a SQL database developer and I am forever missing deadlines and release dates. This is not because I am bad at my job but because development of any kind is littered with unexpected delays. I work for a small software house with limited development recourses, the smallest thing such as a member of the dev team being off sick can push the release date of projects back. I recently broke my ankle and missed a large number of deadlines because I was unable to get into work.

Its not just small companies that have this problem either. Microsoft was forced to release Windows 2000 in 2001 because of development issues, RockStar games have just pushed back the release of GTA4 by up to six months.

The only mistake that GPSM have made has been to not keep the visitor of their website informed to the latest developments.

I am fully aware that what I am saying will have absolutely no value on this forum because having only one post against my name means I am either an idiot who has accidentally wander onto this side with looking for pictures of naked girls or some kind of undercover PR agent for GPSM. But in all seriousness, berating the company and calling them names will get you no where.

Of course until the patch is actually released it is possible that I may be wrong about them. But I very much doubt that that is the case, their company would have too much to loose.

I guess the point that I am trying to make is about respect. Give their developers a chance to come up with a good, stable solution. These things take time!

Steve

Hear hear!!:icon14:

**cracks knuckles and chuckles**

nicon wrote:I agree fully with XDAMAN, I myself am a SQL database developer and I am forever missing deadlines and release dates. This is not because I am bad at my job but because development of any kind is littered with unexpected delays. I work for a small software house with limited development recourses, the smallest thing such as a member of the dev team being off sick can push the release date of projects back. I recently broke my ankle and missed a large number of deadlines because I was unable to get into work.

nicon wrote:
Its not just small companies that have this problem either. Microsoft was forced to release Windows 2000 in 2001 because of development issues, RockStar games have just pushed back the release of GTA4 by up to six months.

nicon wrote:
The only mistake that GPSM have made has been to not keep the visitor of their website informed to the latest developments.

nicon wrote:
I am fully aware that what I am saying will have absolutely no value on this forum because having only one post against my name means I am either an idiot who has accidentally wander onto this side with looking for pictures of naked girls or some kind of undercover PR agent for GPSM. But in all seriousness, berating the company and calling them names will get you no where.

nicon wrote:
Of course until the patch is actually released it is possible that I may be wrong about them. But I very much doubt that that is the case, their company would have too much to loose.

nicon wrote:
I guess the point that I am trying to make is about respect. Give their developers a chance to come up with a good, stable solution. These things take time!

Steve

iball wrote:**cracks knuckles and chuckles**

Yes, but I'm sure you didn't post on your company's website that you had done something no one else was able to do and that thousands of users suddenyl wanted more information that you didn't give out.

The difference is that Microsoft DID release Windows 2000 in 2000. February 2000 to be exact. I know, I was using it on military computers in 2000 in Kosovo. And you call yourself a SQL developer. Pathetic.
And Rockstar has an already PROVEN track record of releasing what they announce.

As well as not creating a better website design.
Why the fsck would anyone send them anything for repair with an atrocious website like that? Horribly unprofessional.

Wont' get us anywhere and when it gets googled up it will get GPScraplands no where either.
Which one is going to cost who more money in the long run?
That's what you call a "win".

Unless the company itself is extremely shady, then they lose nothing.

Respect is given when it is earned. They should have kept their big traps shut until they had fully released.
I respect devs who come out of nowhere with a solid product. I do NOT repsect devs who blather on endlessly about how they are working on this or that and never deliver or deliver an over-hyped and under-performing product.
Which is why I'm not really respecting the Apple iPhone right now.

Good post iball! :icon14:

iball wrote:**cracks knuckles and chuckles**

Wont' get us anywhere and when it gets googled up it will get GPScraplands no where either.
Which one is going to cost who more money in the long run?
That's what you call a "win".

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Iball :icon14: :icon14: :icon14:
i am just fedup of bullsh*t they give you with release dates i went out and bought ext gps so gpsm you stink from top to bottom as far as i am concern you can go to hell and stick your patch right up your back side.
Any legit company would not do what you did the least you could have done is kept your visitors informed.