LOCKED:TomTom patch for N95 available now? (warning: scam information in this thread)

Gpsmidlands wrote:[CENTER][SIZE="4"]Nokia N95 Patch for use with TomTom Software Symbian V3[/SIZE][/CENTER]

Hi

We are not normally moved to subscribe to any forum as it is our opinion to leave this sort of deposit to the likes of our customer base.

Firstly it needs to be brought to your attention that we derive not one penny from any incoming call as this part of the call is taken by the NUMBER PROVIDER and not us. By the way the call may cost the caller 10p per minute but who do you think charges to initiate the call. Not rocket science but people need to examine the facts before making reckless statements

Secondly we have asked for no renumeration for either the original patch or the subsequent releases as and when they are available.

Thirdly we need no additional web exposure for our core business as this is our obviously pda & gps repairs. This should become apparent to any web 'surfer' whom conducts a search using google and such like with terms such as 'PDA Repairs' or 'GPS Repairs'.

You will see we do not offer a repair service for the Nokia N95 or similar so such exposure using the patch would prove absolutely worthless to us as a company.

So lets get down to the 'nitty gritty'.....

We originally developed a patch for OUR corporate base as many of our clients had adopted the N95 without consulting us with a view to using TomTom software to mention just one. Whilst the N95 is a superb piece of consumer hardware it falls way short of corporate structure & application.

Anyone who has dealt with us will know that we go the 'extra mile' for our customers and in many cases do not seek financial reward unless the sale involves hardware. Given our background in front and back end gps software development the patch was quite easy to compile but the problem revolved around the navigation software itself. We are amazed that no-one else has managed to achieve this given the amount of knowledge contained within the forum. To be blunt we are not allowed to alter any software both at surface or source code level. As a member of VERO we would not even attempt to distribute such a solution ...even a free one.
We suggest all you angry guys out there should direct your venom at the software author not us. The patch was initially designed for our own use hence we are asking for NO REWARD.

Everyone knows that the N95 is possibly the most popular mobile handset on the planet at the moment and an alarming amount of people have purchased this mobile on contract on the assumption that TomTom Symbian V3 would simply 'drop on' the device and work with the integral receiver.

We would ask people not to contact us by either email or phone and simply keep an eye on the website as we expect the link to go 'live' very shortly. The patch has been out in the field for 5 days so far.

Regards

Simon
GpsMidlands
PDA & GPS Repairers

Thanks Simon, I completely agree with you, do not let anybody put you down.
People are so... weird sometimes...

I know the end of this story:

The patch test's fails and she never will been released. :icon13:
Else if they released the patch before friday 10th, i will publicly apologise to GPS-M in this thread.

All I have to say is seeing is believing

fiddles wrote:All I have to say is seeing is believing

Damn straight. I love how this "Simon" character from GPSmidlands basically comes in here and slags everyone - albeit in a nice way - and then everyone jumps on the bandwagon with "cheers, simon! Thanks!"

Like insulting the intelligence here:

Simon wrote:We are amazed that no-one else has managed to achieve this given the amount of knowledge contained within the forum.

And again in referencing the premium call charges....

Simon wrote:Not rocket science but people need to examine the facts before making reckless statements

And I don't know about Great Britain, but where I come from sometimes the word deposit can equal shit.

Simon wrote:
We are not normally moved to subscribe to any forum as it is our opinion to leave this sort of deposit to the likes of our customer base.

I love this one...

Simon wrote:Everyone knows that the N95 is possibly the most popular mobile handset on the planet at the moment and an alarming amount of people have purchased this mobile on contract on the assumption that TomTom Symbian V3 would simply 'drop on' the device and work with the integral receiver.

f**k tomtom and no support for the internal module.

i'll buy Navigon:
https://www.navigon.com/site/int/en/shop/consumer/mobilephones/1114?deviceId=212

and it's compatible with internal GPS.

Yes, well I just have.

But its not downloading, have sent them an email.

Will be a while before I can post anything about it, as first I have to get it to download, then I have to wait till its finished.

Considering its nearly 3GB, that might be a while. Hopefully it will work on my computer at home, and will finish before morning. Ho hum.

my pennys worth... and im not affiliated with gps midlands...

as far as i know, if you do NOT pay for something, you can hardly compain about it...

its far to easy to destroy the reputation of a company with stuff like this, from what I can see, they have tried to do something to HELP and its not really worked that well for them. Maybe vent your fustration at the software company for not supporting the device before slagging of this company for trying to help. We all knew that TomTom wasnt compatible with the internal GPS of the N95 so stop complaining. If they (GPS Midlands) come up with a solution, then great, if not, use the crappy slow badly mapped Route 66 like everyone else until a patch IS released...

OK, rant over!

hace a nice day y'all!

bartmanekul wrote:Yes, well I just have.

But its not downloading, have sent them an email.

Will be a while before I can post anything about it, as first I have to get it to download, then I have to wait till its finished.

Considering its nearly 3GB, that might be a while. Hopefully it will work on my computer at home, and will finish before morning. Ho hum.

omega1 wrote:
as far as i know, if you do NOT pay for something, you can hardly compain about it...

omega1 wrote:
its far to easy to destroy the reputation of a company with stuff like this, from what I can see, they have tried to do something to HELP and its not really worked that well for them. hace a nice day y'all!

This all could have been avoided if GPS-Midlands did the following...

(a) Do not advertise the patch until it had successfully completed field testing and actually released/available for download.

(b) Do not tell customers who call their phone line the patch will be free then send an email 15 minutes later stating the patch would cost �29.99.

(c) Updated the website homepage to reflect the current situation - e.g. Field Testing of the patch could have been mentioned on the web site mid last week and assuming they have had no major problems then it should be possible now to set a firm release date and state this on their website.

(d) Ensure their 0871 10p/min Sales Line is either manned during office hours or set to unobtainable if there's nobody available to answer calls. Otherwise OFCOM may expect to receive complaints.

I will believe this patch exists when I have it running on my N95.

monica _69 wrote:Ummm, I don't understand...what are you downloading that is 3 gb in size ??? :con?

I should have quoted the guy before me who gave a link to the navigon software earlier, my bad. Its currently at 18%, and will take all night.

If its good enough software, its hellva deal. All of europe for �70 odd.

I think Dez said it all really. And I will note yet again, that they still have the text on the home page saying its 'available now'. I have mentioned it several times, and since GPS midlands obviously read this thread they must know about it.

please let us know how it works..
i will do the same but
tomorrow morning i'm going to vacancies, so i can't download it now.

when i'll be back (in 8 days) i'll buy it and i'll write a review.

Well dont buy it yet then! No point in you wasting money if its no good, wait for my opinion, and you can ask any questions you like once Ive got it working.

Bear in mind you cannot return satnav software, as all companies operate on the 'once opened, you cannot return' policy. And yeah, its got to be opened to be tried really!

It would have been nice if a trial of Navigon was available. On MS PDAs it runs ever so slowly, making it absolutely useless. Surely they could lock a 3-day trial or something like that to the IMEI, giving themselves a chance to prove that the latest version is better?

@bartmanekul, did they provide a serial or how is it activated?

I know, but sadly no. Dont like the sound of it running slowly :frown:

Still, I'll see tomorrow hopefully. As long as it has the following:

Good routing

Decent maps

Sensible menus/options

Good postcodes.

Im not overly bothered about fancy options.

They gave me a serial, which I presume I have to enter when I have installed it on the device, and then go to the activation page on the net. Input the serial, along with the device code my phone will give, then the web page will give an activation code for the software, which I input onto the phone.

SBC, how long ago was that version you saw/tried?

32% BTW.

Something like 6 months, I guess. I ran it on a Mio A701 with a 520MHz intel cpu. But of course this doesn't have to mean a thing, since the S60 version could be very different from the Windows Mobile.

dez_borders wrote:Actually we are paying for the 0871 10p/min Sales line

This all could have been avoided if GPS-Midlands did the following...

(a) Do not advertise the patch until it had successfully completed field testing and actually released/available for download.

(b) Do not tell customers who call their phone line the patch will be free then send an email 15 minutes later stating the patch would cost �29.99.

(c) Updated the website homepage to reflect the current situation - e.g. Field Testing of the patch could have been mentioned on the web site mid last week and assuming they have had no major problems then it should be possible now to set a firm release date and state this on their website.

(d) Ensure their 0871 10p/min Sales Line is either manned during office hours or set to unobtainable if there's nobody available to answer calls. Otherwise OFCOM may expect to receive complaints.

I will believe this patch exists when I have it running on my N95.

agreed, i personally think they been using "n95 patch for internal GPS patch" as a means of advertisement for the website.

My final word on this (you will be pleased to hear);

Of course they are using it as advertising, why the hell not? They are business, they are allowed to do this kind of thing - its sensible. Just because they are using it to advertise their business does not 100% mean it's not true that they have developed it and are testing it. Assuming that it exists, in theory there is absolutely nothing wrong with what they are doing, we get a free patch, they get a boast for their business. Win win situation.

In practice, GPSmidlands, you have made a complete arse of this and messed a lot of people around with broken promises. You come on here (first as a blatant plant, then as yourselves) defending yourself and making sly remarks, yet fail to apologise for they fact that you have constantly ****ed everyone around. People just want to get on. I need sat nav working and paid a good price for my N95, month on and i still dont have an acceptable solution. I would have gone elsewhere, but you tell us you can get tomtom working. You even have a dig at TomTom for not releasing a patch, but at least they are not constantly giving people misinformation pissing people around.

And for god sake GPSmidlands, do you honestly think that website is going to help your business? It's an absolute shocker, some of the pages are in a right old mess, some is barely legible. This is basic ABC web design, any school kid can do better. Do your selves a favour and buy a copy of dreamweaver!

I'll only believe in this patch when I see it working...Gpsmidland has made too many mistakes for trusting before...They've to learn the abc of comunication by website.
My best regards

autopilot wrote:My final word on this (you will be pleased to hear);

Of course they are using it as advertising, why the hell not? They are business, they are allowed to do this kind of thing - its sensible. Just because they are using it to advertise their business does not 100% mean it's not true that they have developed it and are testing it. Assuming that it exists, in theory there is absolutely nothing wrong with what they are doing, we get a free patch, they get a boast for their business. Win win situation.

In practice, GPSmidlands, you have made a complete arse of this and messed a lot of people around with broken promises. You come on here (first as a blatant plant, then as yourselves) defending yourself and making sly remarks, yet fail to apologise for they fact that you have constantly ****ed everyone around. People just want to get on. I need sat nav working and paid a good price for my N95, month on and i still dont have an acceptable solution. I would have gone elsewhere, but you tell us you can get tomtom working. You even have a dig at TomTom for not releasing a patch, but at least they are not constantly giving people misinformation pissing people around.

And for god sake GPSmidlands, do you honestly think that website is going to help your business? It's an absolute shocker, some of the pages are in a right old mess, some is barely legible. This is basic ABC web design, any school kid can do better. Do your selves a favour and buy a copy of dreamweaver!

Excellent post! I will now make my last posting on this subject (unless I need to issue a public apology later to GPSM).

I want and need this patch but I have given up believing it's for real.

I predict the next move by GPSM will be a posting stating the patch has successfully passed field tests but due to the negative posts on AAS and other forums, they are only supplying it to their own Corporate customers and not the the general public. That's called plausible deniability and diverts the heat from upset n95 users from the company to posters like myself. Wait and see.

GPS midlands

Thank you for trying to develop this patch for the general public
Could you please comment on a ball park time frame for when this might be released to all? 1 week? 1 month? 6 months?
I appreciate it needs to be tested and the testing might have brought about issues that require further development.

People seem to want it the next day,
Its a free patch so they have no right to scream so much (IMO)
However, i do see there point about expecting something and it not being delivered
Can you officially comment on this please?

Also, your website is shockingly bad, you may have a great company, but your website is your shop front, and it looks in a pretty bad way!
A copy of dreamweaver is no good if you dont know what your doing.
PM me if you want a good price on Search engine friendly site you can update yourself.

Thanks for all your hard work on this
Mark

Why is everyone in a hurry now to have this PATCH?

Give the developers a little bit time; REGISTERED TT-users (S60) were already stuck on v6.02, and use already their external GPS to navigate with TT6 . . .

I'm a registered TT-user, navigated already a LONG time with my external GPS, and now I can wait a few weeks more for the promised patch!

Have patience, and let the people do their job, so that the patch will be in one time BUG-free !!!

As I understand, this patch can only be used on the original software, so NOT the CRACKED ones, which I believe most of the users here are using that!

As a legit tomtom owner, I did want the patch.

At one point, I legitimatly owned 5 different bits of satnav software (that was last night sometime). Tomtom - good, route66 - shit, copilot - shit, navigon -good so far and an old navman (too old to comment) lot that came with my PDA.

Anyways, I needed to get rid of my PDA, as I had bought a 6110 navigator and needed the money back. Now an all in one is important for me, as I am very absent minded, and would only forget to charge a reciever. Not to mention have it nicked, cos Id have to leave it in the car and forget it.

I dont/didnt desperatly want this patch, but I did want to know when/if it was going to be released.

As it turns out I have obviously bought other software. Which is what I imagine a lot of legit users will do

if they know whats going on

Thats the main issue here. People have been told confilcting things, me also. I was told it would be done on Tuesday. I gave them an extra day and rang them, and couldnt get through. My email wasnt answered. And thats after me defending them.

People want to know whats going on, although I daresay your right in that a lot of lamers want to use the hacked version of tomtom.

And I'll voice a thought that crowbarred itself into my head. It doesnt matter what we say, if the patch isnt real, GPSM can simply say its in development until tomtom actually do come out with a patch. And theres not a lot we can do about it afterwards tbh.

No matter how long it goes on, some people will always beleive theres one being made. Another thing which makes me think its fake.

only be used on the original software, so NOT the CRACKED ones

To be blunt we are not allowed to alter any software both at surface or source code level.

So how exactly does it stop cracked versions if it doesnt touch the tomtom source code? That must mean it has some way of looking and identifying the cracked map files.

I hope its true, but MPO is that its not. I simply recommend anyone asking for one to navigon now.

Its cheaper, seems easily good enough, and gives you all of europe.

i suspect the patch they are making will fool the tomtom into thinking its an external gps receiver

it could be a seperate app?
or perhaps tomtom have an API, they could put a layer in between talking to the GPS and tomtom software

....however, i'm just a .net web developer and haven't looked into this

A lot of people are at the stage of either buying external hardware or other software, and thats why they want an idea of when it might be released.

if GPSM say 2 months, then we can stop checking the forum everyday!

m.r.davies wrote:

if GPSM say 2 months, then we can stop checking the forum everyday!

But they don't want this,obiusvly...

manuelrm wrote:But they don't want this,obiusvly...

I doubt they care about us checking THIS forum everyday
interest will be high regardless.

m.r.davies wrote:I doubt they care about us checking THIS forum everyday
interest will be high regardless.

Obiusvly I meant their Web Hompage not THIS forum...

Well, since the folks at GPSmidlands say it's sooooo easy to do that they can't figure out why the lot of us here cannot do it on our own then I say we delve into the TT and N95 registry and figure out a way to do it ourselves.
Unless GPScraplands is actually lying and trying to be insulting...

I have got maybe a bit provoking question.
Everybody is talking about various solutions,
some of us are waiting for a patch for TomTom,
someones are thinking about buying another software,
others are considering buying an external GPS,
what about native Nokia Maps???
Can't we expect an official release soon?
Will it be good enough in order not to look at other solutions anymore?
I like Nokia's navigation and belive it will be fixed and developed in short time.
What's your opinion?

slawmilcz wrote:I have got maybe a bit provoking question.
Everybody is talking about various solutions,
some of us are waiting for a patch for TomTom,
someones are thinking about buying another software,
others are considering buying an external GPS,
what about native Nokia Maps???
Can't we expect an official release soon?
Will it be good enough in order not to look at other solutions anymore?
I like Nokia's navigation and belive it will be fixed and developed in short time.
What's your opinion?

My opinion is it's crap because it REFUSES to allow me to purchase the navigation option.
Bought the N95 at the Nokia flagship store in Chicago and the Nokia Maps application that came with the damn phone REFUSES to recognize credit cards that have any sort of online secondary security check.
If Nokia/Smart2Go can't even get the BASIC things right then their little nav app can rot in hell.

iball wrote:My opinion is it's crap because it REFUSES to allow me to purchase the navigation option.
Bought the N95 at the Nokia flagship store in Chicago and the Nokia Maps application that came with the damn phone REFUSES to recognize credit cards that have any sort of online secondary security check.
If Nokia/Smart2Go can't even get the BASIC things right then their little nav app can rot in hell.

I agree...originally I tried to buy the 3 yearly licence, but it didn't accept my type of debit card...although it did for the monthly one. No probs anyway, the Route 66 is fine for all but the most dedicated sat nav user (bearing in mind how many times you really need to use sat nav)