DamianDinning wrote:Yes it can *detect* up to 10 faces.
DamianDinning wrote:Hand on heart, I can say that is absolutely not the case. There is a specific component of the NAM release which is not in the other releases which means it just takes a little longer. We are still on track for that late next week all being well.
Sounds good.
I hope you and your team know we appreciate the hard work you guys have put in, not to mention it means a lot that you are here answering questions regarding the device. I know of no other phone manufacturer who even remotely communicates in this fashion, or has software updates as visible as these across such a wide variety of devices.
Keep the goods coming-
Allk you guys who jave done the update to v. 20.115 what is your product code??? please
everytime i try to update it asks me for a username and password which i dont know.
im on t-mobile uk
Damian or Anyone else
Could you please answer my question?
Thanks in advance
HassanMumtaz wrote:Given the excellent technique of zooming in video mode, does the n86 also use it for stills photos? e.g. if we set the picture resolution to 2MP and then zoom to take a still, then does it use the full sensor to avoid loss of detail?
Posting it again 😊
Improvements in the camera section are worth noting.
However the icon of few java applications (e.g. orkut, opera mini 5 beta, etc.) are still blurred.
I hope they will be corrected in next firmware update.
Can anyone tell whether the real digital zoom in video recording is smooth in new firmware or it still comes in pieces.
I have a question, I don't know if this is the right thread for it, but I'll try.
My Phonememory is almost full, I have about 15 MB free space, and the problem is that I have no idea what's taking up the space! I've checked both the phones file manager, and on a computer, but it both says that the folders are empty.
Any idea what I should do?
donpipino wrote:I have a question, I don't know if this is the right thread for it, but I'll try.My Phonememory is almost full, I have about 15 MB free space, and the problem is that I have no idea what's taking up the space! I've checked both the phones file manager, and on a computer, but it both says that the folders are empty.
Any idea what I should do?
Fire up your phone's Web Browser...
Then, choose "Options" > "Clear Privacy Data" then make sure you choose only "Cache" so as not to lose all your settings...
Then exit the browser when it it finished (give it time, as it might take a while).
Then go back into File Manager, and tell us what your C: disk is now reporting for free space.
If you are now seeing a hefty increase in room, it beggars the question yet again, why, oh why, oh why do Nokia make the stupid decision to ONLY be able to store the Browser Cache to the tiny, restricted C: drive, instead of the massive E: drive.
Go ask them about that though - I got nowhere with it...
shadamehr wrote:Fire up your phone's Web Browser...Then, choose "Options" > "Clear Privacy Data" then make sure you choose only "Cache" so as not to lose all your settings...
Then exit the browser when it it finished (give it time, as it might take a while).
Then go back into File Manager, and tell us what your C: disk is now reporting for free space.
If you are now seeing a hefty increase in room, it beggars the question yet again, why, oh why, oh why do Nokia make the stupid decision to ONLY be able to store the Browser Cache to the tiny, restricted C: drive, instead of the massive E: drive.
Go ask them about that though - I got nowhere with it...
Now I have 22 MB free space, it is a difference, but it's still like 50 MB gone. I just don't know what to do, because when I check in file manager, every folder is empty, how can that be?
donpipino wrote:Now I have 22 MB free space, it is a difference, but it's still like 50 MB gone. I just don't know what to do, because when I check in file manager, every folder is empty, how can that be?
Because the C: Drive is ALSO being used for Ovi Map Updates, N-Gage Updates, System File Updates such as Nokia Conversation, if installed, and MMS/PC Suite Support, any Quick Office Updates, Nokia Messaging (Email Client) Updates, Nokia Messaging Cache, and loads more too.
And all installed in INVISIBLE, private folders the user can't even see.
Again, this is the OTHER issue I have raised and also got nowhere with...
That despite us ensuring we choose to install apps to the E: drive - when given a choice - that for many things, we don't even GET a choice where to install, and the limited C: memory gets used instead, and stupidly.
And again, if you don't like this (just like anyone else), I would urge you to pass this on to Nokia.
I have raised this before so that Damian Dinning can see it, but I think it looks like it is beyond even his remit, to have this fixed, as it seems to be a flaw in the OS itself with FP2, as so far, no device has received a FW Update that ever changes this behaviour - especially the Browser, Messaging Cache, Ovi Maps, and other system updates location.
I like the camera-phone aspects of my N86...
But if this is the way forward with FP2 devices - slower (this is the slowest Nokia of ANY sort I have ever owned - I could video many of the times I click, and have to wait four seconds or so before anything happens), buggier, RAM crippled, and C: limited, yet all updates and Caches going to C: only, then I am afraid that my 'next' Nokia will either be 'back' to my E71, or not a Nokia at all, and I will finally give Android a try.
As like my signature strip says, the N86, it's the biggest pile of crut I have ever owned from Nokia, for it's bugs, slowness, freezing, and issues.
The new v20 firmware MIGHT fix some of these things, and give a tiny improvement in free C: space until new updates come out again, but how would I know, because despite it being out for my model, it's only been released as FOTA for now, so I can't even install it using NSU.
Nokia just gets worse and worse.
shadamehr wrote:Because the C: Drive is ALSO being used for Ovi Map Updates, N-Gage Updates, System File Updates such as Nokia Conversation, if installed, and MMS/PC Suite Support, any Quick Office Updates, Nokia Messaging (Email Client) Updates, Nokia Messaging Cache, and loads more too.And all installed in INVISIBLE, private folders the user can't even see.
Again, this is the OTHER issue I have raised and also got nowhere with...
That despite us ensuring we choose to install apps to the E: drive - when given a choice - that for many things, we don't even GET a choice where to install, and the limited C: memory gets used instead, and stupidly.
And again, if you don't like this (just like anyone else), I would urge you to pass this on to Nokia.
I have raised this before so that Damian Dinning can see it, but I think it looks like it is beyond even his remit, to have this fixed, as it seems to be a flaw in the OS itself with FP2, as so far, no device has received a FW Update that ever changes this behaviour - especially the Browser, Messaging Cache, Ovi Maps, and other system updates location.
I like the camera-phone aspects of my N86...
But if this is the way forward with FP2 devices - slower (this is the slowest Nokia of ANY sort I have ever owned - I could video many of the times I click, and have to wait four seconds or so before anything happens), buggier, RAM crippled, and C: limited, yet all updates and Caches going to C: only, then I am afraid that my 'next' Nokia will either be 'back' to my E71, or not a Nokia at all, and I will finally give Android a try.
As like my signature strip says, the N86, it's the biggest pile of crut I have ever owned from Nokia, for it's bugs, slowness, freezing, and issues.
The new v20 firmware MIGHT fix some of these things, and give a tiny improvement in free C: space until new updates come out again, but how would I know, because despite it being out for my model, it's only been released as FOTA for now, so I can't even install it using NSU.
Nokia just gets worse and worse.
Ah, I see, that's lame by Nokia, to use only C: for that kind of stuff..
This is my first Nokia (I've used SE before, you know, I'm Swedish 😃), so I don't have a reference on how slow/fast it could be.
donpipino wrote:Ah, I see, that's lame by Nokia, to use only C: for that kind of stuff..This is my first Nokia (I've used SE before, you know, I'm Swedish 😃), so I don't have a reference on how slow/fast it could be.
I concur entirely. (to "that's lame...").
But can I just ask - have you managed to update to FW v20 yet...?
As it MIGHT help at least a few issues. And it is meant to improve the free space of C: even a little bit.
Still, this is just a fudge, as it's not really fixing the OVERALL underlying problem itself.
But it might help you for now, once it becomes available (as like I mentioned above in my frustrations, it's Over The Air only, until next week, when it can be done through Nokia Software Updater and PC Suite).
This particular image, made with proto version ahead of MWC 2009 has been haunting many of us from the day it was published. I know a lot of people who made some great shots daytime/night but nothing comes even close to this shot (assuming the image hasn't been digitally altered):
http://mobilenet.cz/aktuality/img/c512/03012009173.jpg
So rumors start, that this was done with some high quality proto lens which never got into production. Even though I refuse to believe that, I wonder how come we can't make such great photos. I also wonder if they have used some stand to avoid shakes?
Another issue with N86: how can I connect N86 with my laptop via BT? After pairing it asks me for some files to install which I don't seem to have (Found new hardware screen). I have downloaded from Nokia site N86 BT.inf file, but it doesn't work (does not support this method of installation error message). Did anyone managed to connect N86 with computer via BT, and how? I never had any issues connecting my 6500s.
Cheers,
Miki
shadamehr wrote:I concur entirely. (to "that's lame...").But can I just ask - have you managed to update to FW v20 yet...?
As it MIGHT help at least a few issues. And it is meant to improve the free space of C: even a little bit.
Still, this is just a fudge, as it's not really fixing the OVERALL underlying problem itself.
But it might help you for now, once it becomes available (as like I mentioned above in my frustrations, it's Over The Air only, until next week, when it can be done through Nokia Software Updater and PC Suite).
Yes, I have updated to v20, I did it two days ago, so I guess I had the luck of being able to update.
I haven't seen any differences outside the camera, only that the Music icon has changed to a folder icon. But I hope that the update takes care of a few bugs I've had.
And yes, I've seen that some people haven't had the chance to update yet, which is weird, it should be released at the same time for everyone imo.
Apologies for the unregistered tag (forgot my pass) but I think Shadamehr is in a minority of power users of the N86 as I myself and my friends have hardly any issues with the phone. Granted, the install-to-Phone Memory bug is an annoyance and , but I'd volunteer the N70 above this if I was going to nominate the worst.
No disrespect to Shadamehr of course, as he's clearly clued up on these devices. Just a little too passionate I think 😉
miki69 wrote:This particular image, made with proto version ahead of MWC 2009 has been haunting many of us from the day it was published. I know a lot of people who made some great shots daytime/night but nothing comes even close to this shot (assuming the image hasn't been digitally altered):
http://mobilenet.cz/aktuality/img/c512/03012009173.jpgSo rumors start, that this was done with some high quality proto lens which never got into production. Even though I refuse to believe that, I wonder how come we can't make such great photos. I also wonder if they have used some stand to avoid shakes?
Another issue with N86: how can I connect N86 with my laptop via BT? After pairing it asks me for some files to install which I don't seem to have. I have downloaded from Nokia site N86 BT.inf file, but it doesn't work. Did anyone managed to connect N86 with computer via BT, and how?
Cheers,
Miki
For the SECOND part of what you ask, the BT issue...
As I understand it, the requisite drivers needed for a particular model of phone are actually installed as part of the installation of Nokia PC Suite - this is where the drivers come from.
BUT...
The Nokia N86 is one of the first Nokias to ship not with PC Suite, but with Ovi Suite INSTEAD - Nokia's intended replacement for PC Suite.
So I found that for me to get my phone connected in MTP - Media Transfer Protocol so that Windows Media Player would natively see my device, I thus HAD to download and install the latest build beta of Nokia Ovi Suite.
And even then, it didn't fully install properly.
But you might want to try that - installing Nokia Ovi Suite Beta, if not already done, and seeing if that installs the needed drivers for your device via BT.
The question becomes, is it a Nokia issue, or a BT Device issue, for which the device itself should come with the needed drivers.
shadamehr wrote:For the SECOND part of what you ask, the BT issue...As I understand it, the requisite drivers needed for a particular model of phone are actually installed as part of the installation of Nokia PC Suite - this is where the drivers come from.
Correct, however, the phone is told that a file needs to be installed on it. At least it did with my N86 via cable.
BUT...The Nokia N86 is one of the first Nokias to ship not with PC Suite, but with Ovi Suite INSTEAD - Nokia's intended replacement for PC Suite.
So I found that for me to get my phone connected in MTP - Media Transfer Protocol so that Windows Media Player would natively see my device, I thus HAD to download and install the latest build beta of Nokia Ovi Suite.
And even then, it didn't fully install properly.
But you might want to try that - installing Nokia Ovi Suite Beta, if not already done, and seeing if that installs the needed drivers for your device via BT.
The question becomes, is it a Nokia issue, or a BT Device issue, for which the device itself should come with the needed drivers.
Correct again. I have a Mac so I do not have any of these problems, but the N86 does connect flawless to my phone. However, when I use VMWare and go virtual, I have had to use PC Suite. Ovi is simply too flaky at the moment, of you might need to use the cable. This is probably the most secure way to make sure you are getting stable connections.
thank you for reply guys, however:
I had PC Suite installed before I got N86. Then I have installed OVI Suite v1.1 (the one that came with device), but still it asks me for those files.
I'll try with OVI Beta, maybe this will resolve the problem.
Funny thing is when I choose from my BT menu (on laptop) "receive a file" I can send files from N86 to laptop (one at a time) and vice versa.
Cheers,
Miki
Hey..
I have found some bugs in this firmware..
Can anyone confirm??
1. Auto rotation takes around 5 seconds when theme effects are turned on, and looks weird.
2. GPS Data: In this application, i couldn't find that satellite status which i used to see how many satellites are accessible and how many are locked.
3. Music Player: When you pause a song which is playing, and after this you make a call, the song starts playing automatically when you disconnect the call.
4. Real Player: Open any video via xplore in real player using "open by system", now you can not seek through it, ie you cant forward or rewind the video.
5. Web: Web application has started hanging and crashing more than it used to in v11.
Rest i will test and post over here.
Please confirm if you are having same issues.
Hello,
I can confirm no. 1(autorotation) and no.5 (Web). Web browsers is less responsive comparing to v11, very often just hangs, and sometimes takes ages to load page. No such issues with Opera Mini 5 beta.
Cheers,
Miki
I have the same problem a few other people are reporting regarding the Music folder icon, and I've also done th phone reset that Miki said fixed the problem, and it did, but when I tried copying the backup back onto the phone, it reverted back to a regular folder icon.. So that didn't help at all, apart from the fact I've spent like 4 hours so far trying to get the unresponsive Content Copier to copy all the damn files back (so far I've only managed to copy the calendar and settings, the latter changed the icon).
As for the list above, so far I've experienced numbers 1 and 2, while the browser is a bit mixed, some pages are a lot faster, some a lot slower.
The bug that still isn't corrected(at least on my phone) is the one when you take pictures and if you immediately try to delete it, it says "already in use" half the time. I mean, if there is a "processing image" part after taking a photo, why is the image still inaccessible even after processing is supposedly finished?
I also got that "Already in use" message, when you try to delete images as soon as that side bar pop up.
Maybe it's just me, but I have a feeling that camera startup is a bit slower comparing to v11.
In Real Player, I can't FF/RW clips using Dpad (like with v11), only with multimedia keys.
Cheers,
Miki
i updated my n86 OTA on 1st, every thing went smooth, software was updated but soon after the update my phone has started asking for the net connection from the home screen for some application but dont know for which and when i press connect it remain connected for say 2-3 minutes and will disconnect and again after 15-20 minutes will again ask for connection. i am fed up of this repeat asking. can any one help me regardng this. my all the applications requiring net connection are made to connect automatically when needed
Sad state of affairs with this update.
At an NHL game tonight I met some guys from Nokia and they know the update for the N86 has problems. My mail does not function properly as well. They said that maybe resetting the phone via *#7370# will fix it but that is a big gamble to take. However, I did get to play with the N97 Mini, and N900. Both are very nice but the Mini is just that. Mini. The N900 will most likely be the break out device. The N86 will be forgotten as soon as these two devices hit the shelves.
I can confirm the above 5 bugs on v20 too.
not only that, my music folder is being replace by a stupid regular folder.
Can the Nokia release the next firmware update to fix those issue asap???
hey everyone just a quick question, this is my first smart phone, and i;ve been trying to get the update over the air but it says there is no update(version 20), my phone product code is
0586595: N86 8MP Country Variant Germany DE Indigo Black
now, this may seem like a dumb question but would it mattter if the phone is using a NAM provider, in my case, rogers? i bought the phone in canada where i'm from but its a european model, soo i wanted to know if me having a NAM provider would not allow me to get said update
i tried *#7370# code in v11 firmware. It only reset the setting. Everything e.g. user data, installed applications, mass memory cotents remained intact. now guess with v20, i used the same code and everything mentioned above gone. cheers nokia?
