Soon: Sony Ericsson P900!

[quote="The Mus"]Does this mean the end of any support for the P800?

Im going insane here! Can someone with some creditials put me out of my misery :evil:[/quote]

I don't think so. Look at the T68i! A firmware upgrade was released about 2 weeks ago! And that phone has been released over a year ago. And when that new camera (MCA-25) came out, the T68i would not support the zoom function, only the T300. A week or so later there was firmware upgrade, and then the T68i did support al those features.

I think SE won't leave us in the cold after they've released the P810...

Good to see there is evidence to show the SE will support their later models... not like some other never to be mentioned mobile phone manufacturers. 8)

Cranium wrote:

[quote]Anonymous wrote:
I have just come from a presentation for our company by Vodafone talking about their mobile data and 3G roadmaps. Within this presentation they showed Sony Ericsson P810 and T710 due out 4th quarter 2003.

It would appear the rumours are true. No details on what the P810 has over the P800 though.

I'm just hearing blah, blah blah blah, blah.

Identify yourself guest! And your credentials to back up your claim. An anonymous post bears ZERO weight for validation of a rumor.
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For information, I work for a global corporation with presence in 700+ cities worldwide. My credentials? I set the global desktop and server strategy and policy for that company (which includes mobile, hence the interest in P800). I won't get into the game of naming companies as there are such things as Non-Disclosure Agreements, so its not a sensible thing to give out such info and identify yourself is it?

Is that good enough for you or is that not sufficient weight to match against your obvious immense experience? Must be so much pressure working in that hardware store!

I'm getting disillusioned with this whole forum business, when I'm here looking for valid information (and maybe give some out when i have it), just to be slagged off by someone who thinks he is the font of all human knowledge just because he "joins" a forum. Your attitude and that of others in here who slag off "guests" usually causes the death of forums such as this as they cease to be informative and end up being a members only know-it-all club. I hope you and all your other small-minded wanna-be presidents enjoy your isolation as you obviously don't want any information but your own.

Well said guest. I mentioned that I saw an internal Vodafone ppt and got shot down as well.... Stupid...

[quote="Anonymous"]For information, I work for a global corporation with presence in 700+ cities worldwide. My credentials? I set the global desktop and server strategy and policy for that company (which includes mobile, hence the interest in P800). I won't get into the game of naming companies as there are such things as Non-Disclosure Agreements, so its not a sensible thing to give out such info and identify yourself is it?[/quote]

That is the type if information that is helpful in forums. Naming yourself or the company isn't necessary if you are logged in so we can see who is making the claim and can look at your post history and by telling us the type of work you do which puts you in the loop. An anonymous post (as you did) could be from someone making anything up and saying anything they want to say in order to attempt to stir up the community.

[quote="Anonymous"]Is that good enough for you or is that not sufficient weight to match against your obvious immense experience? Must be so much pressure working in that hardware store![/quote]

Does it make you feel better throwing out cheap insults? This only hurts your credibility rather than boosting it becuase now I know you say things that you know nothing about just for the sake of saying them.

[quote="Anonymous"]I'm getting disillusioned with this whole forum business, when I'm here looking for valid information (and maybe give some out when i have it), just to be slagged off by someone who thinks he is the font of all human knowledge just because he "joins" a forum. Your attitude and that of others in here who slag off "guests" usually causes the death of forums such as this as they cease to be informative and end up being a members only know-it-all club.[/quote]

You are no different that the rest of us by coming to the forums looking for valid information. What do you use to determine whether information is valid? Do you have some psychic abilities that the rest of us don't? Do you flip a coin? I (and many of us) go by the users credentials which are based on what the person's history in the forums. That is the ONLY thing we can use to individually validate claims. If I looked at your post history (which you have none that we know of) and saw that you make many claims that turn out to be false then I discredit what you say as being another erroneous claim. If your post history is very informative and helpful to others then I would tend to believe what you say as being truth and would listen quite intently. An anonymous post could be put in by a 10 year old child who has no real knowledge of what they are saying but is smart enough to say things that they know people want to hear based on previous posts.

Are you a trouble causing 10 year old? For all I know, you are, so I'm still just hearing blah, blah, blah from you.

[quote="Anonymous"]I hope you and all your other small-minded wanna-be presidents enjoy your isolation as you obviously don't want any information but your own.[/quote]

The name calling is a bit childish and more discrediting towards your claims. The name calling is what I would expect from a 10 year old and not from an expert in the industry sharing information with others.

What was this thread about again!? that was a joke before anyone decides to get their lawer onto me...

War between member(s?) and guest(s?). 😃

come on ppl lets go back to P810 and not have a fight between guest and member. As we all are in a forum we should all give out information and help each other and not fight with each other. :roll:

I think it's no point fighting over things like the phone. If SE decide to come out the latest phone, we can't do anything about it, right? Go pounder over it.

Let's not fighting over it. Forum is a great place to share knowledge and information, isn't it? 8)

It's Friday and don't look so piss off.... come on... let's party.

I have been an avid Ericsson Mobile Phone user for almost 5 years now. I don't think that the P810 is real because of these facts:

1.) The P810 is the name of an old analog NEC mobile phone that was released years ago - the NEC P810.

2.) Ericsson doesn't name it's new phones from it's older phones - (it would have been called the P900). IE: Ericsson 318, 628, 688, 888, T18, T28, T39, etc.

3.) Sony's latest handheld PDA CLIE has a camera resolution of 2 mega-pixels (much much higher than 1.3) . If you were coming out with a new device, it would have to out do any current technology that you have or your competitors would do it for you.

4.) The P800 has just been released in most countries. Ericsson isn't Nokia and won't release a newer model a few months a part.

5.) The P800 has a lot of bugs. They still have to refine it through numerous upgrades which they are doing.

6.) They just released a grey P800, and I bought one... 😉

[quote="vincent168"]
1.) The P810 is the name of an old analog NEC mobile phone that was released years ago - the NEC P810.
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Sony Ericsson T100 ... Samsung T100

didn't the samsung come out after the SE 100 though

[quote="nk8"]didn't the samsung come out after the SE 100 though[/quote]

No, definitely not.

Despite all the things Vincent168 tells, I still think/hope it's real.

Same here.

Sorry, I remember now.

Ericsson came out with a phone a couple of years ago, the Ericsson R320s which was suppose to be it's rival against the Nokia 6210. Nokia came out with a follow up phone, the Nokia 6310. Ericsson then followed suite with the Ericsson R380 - which had bluetooth and GPRS.

I still have my doubts thou. The picture looks more like a P800 proto-type. The chrome keypad design looks like it came from a Nokia 8850 and the design is kinda boxy. I was thinking that if Sony-Ericsson had to outdo the P800 design wise- it had to be a little bit more fancier. After all, Nokia's latest phone the 6600 is also running Symbian OS 7 - less the touch screen capability.

And besides, don't you agree - the P800 is still a head turner. If Sony-Ericsson releases a follow-up model too soon - it would "kill" the P800's popularity?

[quote="vincent168"]I have been an avid Ericsson Mobile Phone user for almost 5 years now. I don't think that the P810 is real because of these facts:

1.) The P810 is the name of an old analog NEC mobile phone that was released years ago - the NEC P810.

2.) Ericsson doesn't name it's new phones from it's older phones - (it would have been called the P900). IE: Ericsson 318, 628, 688, 888, T18, T28, T39, etc.

3.) Sony's latest handheld PDA CLIE has a camera resolution of 2 mega-pixels (much much higher than 1.3) . If you were coming out with a new device, it would have to out do any current technology that you have or your competitors would do it for you.

4.) The P800 has just been released in most countries. Ericsson isn't Nokia and won't release a newer model a few months a part.

5.) The P800 has a lot of bugs. They still have to refine it through numerous upgrades which they are doing.

6.) They just released a grey P800, and I bought one... 😉[/quote]

Why your avid points are invalid:

1) I think it seriously low in self esteem if a company were to bother about not naming their phones after any phone, even an old analog that was released years ago. P810 is a natural logical progression from P800.

2) Maybe where you are you haven't heard of T310 (from T300) and T610 (from T68)? If you see the SE's logic of model numbering, P900 would mean it's a totally different class from P800, just like the T300 is from the T200.

3) If you HAD seen the size of that Clie, PEG-NZ90, you would realize it's hell of a lot bigger than the P800. There IS a reason for that.

4) No matter how much I loathe having a new model out so soon, I agree with other posters that SE must keep themselves at the forefront. Judging by their lack luster market performance, I would see this a logical new marketing strategy.

5) At the time T68i was released, T68 still had a lot of bugs.

6) You are not alone. Would you prefer SE stops all sales of the P800 6 months before the release of the P810 so nobody would complain?

[quote="Anonymous"]I still have my doubts thou. The picture looks more like a P800 proto-type. The chrome keypad design looks like it came from a Nokia 8850 and the design is kinda boxy. I was thinking that if Sony-Ericsson had to outdo the P800 design wise- it had to be a little bit more fancier. After all, Nokia's latest phone the 6600 is also running Symbian OS 7 - less the touch screen capability.[/quote]

If you were familiar with Sony's older models, you'd realize it's a direct descendent of the Z5 design wise:

Sony's is known for smart heart-stopping sophisticated designs. You just need to look at their Vaio and Clie lines to see. I for one welcome this sleek straight lines over any curves and fancy colours. I'd leave those to cheaper Nokia phones like the 3650 and the 6600.

6600 is running on Symbian 7.0, but it uses Series 60, totally different from UIQ, so any comparisons would not be valid.

The T68i was just a sofware upgrade tho, with a new colour case. Not a major change like the p810 is rumoured to be.

Well, then maybe we should talk about the recent software upgrade for T68i with additional games that came after T610 was released.

But part of me is also thinking support for P800 will be decreased after the P810 is released, if my experiences with Clie and Vaio are any indication. And all this is due to Sony.

[quote="brick"]6600 is running on Symbian 7.0, but it uses Series 60[/quote]

Sorry, I just have to correct these.

6600 is running on Symbian v7.0s and it's Series 60 2.0 phone.

😮

I don't think SE will be releasing a new one in a hurry - they're still trying to figure out how to get the P800 to work properly!!

*The 'pics' of the 'P810' looks absolutely horrible - Sony will NOT release a phone that looks that ugly!!!!!

Now that I've done the firmware upgrade, I've got no desire anymore to get a new phone - I'm just really happy with my P800 and hope that it will stay with me for years to come.... 😃

You can check out PDAFrance.com for some news on it. It will definitely be smaller and lighter, which is to be expected. The resolutions at the beginning of the thread are ONLY for the camera, and NOT the screen.

It should be an ideal device, but don't cry if youv'e got a P-800; there will be bugs...

thats one weird (transparent) phone, the picture is a montage, you can see the guy's hand through the phone.

looks like a logical advance. i'm sure there are many "mockup" phones around in various r&d dept at any one time.

The pictures of the P810, or whatever it will be called, are surely really grainy, you should read this article from the Register, which claims that Samsung is banning all camera phones from their semiconductor, flat-panel and electronics factories, beacuse of fears of pitures of new products leaking out.

On the P810 pictures you can clearly see that they are made with a P800, so this is exactly the thing Samsung is afraid of. If SE decides to cancel the phone, or never intended to release it, many people will be disappointed by the fact that they were first so excited by pictures of a phone/dummy SE never intended to release.

The claimed P810 could be just a prototype, but it might as well be real. No one knows until SE confirms or denies the existence of a successor to the P800, or an addition to the P8XX line of products.

Check this out :

http://www.mysymbianusers.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=38

Scroll down and you will see the pics :P

Rgds

I'm wondering how does the the buttons board fit in the flip? :-?

Nice. Finally some new pictures, and even one where the P810 is on!

Only a shame that all those pictures are so blurry! :-?

Its quite hard to say really whether the P810 is rumour or fact. But from the pics of it iv seen posted here............. the P800 looks much better.

[quote="xunvala"]Its quite hard to say really whether the P810 is rumour of fact. [/quote]

Whats hard about that? Of course it is a rumour. This hasn't been confirmed by ONE SINGLE RELIABLE SOURCE.
And the more pics I see of it, the more fake it looks to me.

It may turn out to be true in the end, but it's still just a rumour.. 😊

No no, thats not the worst thing, when the time everyone really believes its a rumour and gives up, SE suddenly releases P810! 😃 My heart can't take this rollercoaster ride. :robot: