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N80 - N80i firmware upgrade guide

532 replies · 318,554 views · Started 03 December 2006

dez_borders wrote:Hi,

1. Yes, you can flash with NSS, but I have never tried it myself, I prefer Phoenix.

2. You can only flash upwards and not downwards in versions of FW so the xxx in your example is more significant than the 42 to 38 bit...
e.g. You could flash from 4.0623.0.42 to 4.0632.0.38
but you cannot flash from 4.0632.0.38 to 4.0623.0.42
...And the first character of the firmware number is even more significant than the others...
e.g. You could flash from 3.0617.0.38 to 4.0001.0.10 (if it existed!),
but you could never flash from 4.xxxx.x.xx to any 3.xxxx.x.xx FW.

Hope that makes sense?

Thank a lot. I already know that I can't flash from 4.xxxx.x.xx to 3.xxxx.x.xx.
Last month i went to nokia service center because I forget to compare the two versions.

Now my N80 has 4.0623.0.42 and the newest N80i FW is 4.0632.0.38 thats mean that I should have a successful flash, shouldn't I?

I have one question more.

Because I don't know which firmware is better for 0539363 or for 0542811. If I install the first one is it possible after that to reinstall the second one. They both are equal versions.

dez_borders wrote:Hi,

1. Yes, you can flash with NSS, but I have never tried it myself, I prefer Phoenix.


Hey Dez....

Its only possible to flash with NSS if you have the Dongle bypass ... I have never managed to find this, if any body has it would be Interesting to know about it ..

enter4o wrote:Thank a lot. I already know that I can't flash from 4.xxxx.x.xx to 3.xxxx.x.xx.
Last month i went to nokia service center because I forget to compare the two versions.

Now my N80 has 4.0623.0.42 and the newest N80i FW is 4.0632.0.38 thats mean that I should have a successful flash, shouldn't I?

I successfully flashed from 4.0623.0.42 to N80IE 2 weeks ago. 😉

Cash wrote:Hey Dez....

Its only possible to flash with NSS if you have the Dongle bypass ... I have never managed to find this, if any body has it would be Interesting to know about it ..

Hi Cash,

Many thanks for clarifying the issue.

I have never tried to flash with NSS so although I knew the program was capable of doing it I didn't know it also required a dongle.

Anyway, I don't think anyone will improve on Nokia's own Phoenix suite so I will stick to that for FW flashing, as it's never let me down.

Just a quick thanks to all the guys who posted information here. I've finally managed to upgrade my N80 to the N80ie.

Hello,

I would like to know if it's possible after upgrading from N80 to N80i to downgrade to N80 again ? With Phoenix ?

Other question : how to find the actual product code of your phone ?

Thanks for your time and help !

Regards

andricop wrote:Hello,

I would like to know if it's possible after upgrading from N80 to N80i to downgrade to N80 again ? With Phoenix ?

Other question : how to find the actual product code of your phone ?

Thanks for your time and help !

Regards

Nowadays it's not possible you to downgrade form N80i to N80. If you try you will damage the phone. There are two ways to downgrade. First is to wait until nokia make newer firmware than 4.0.632.0.38 for N80 and the second is Nokia Service Center.

You can find actual product code of your phone under the battery.

Cash wrote:
6, click "retry" and run crack immediately and press "yes to all" in new window that opens, if done correctly then pheonix will continue to install normally, if you didnt do this correctly then close current pheonix installation and re-start pheonix installation from step 4 above - YOU HAVE TO DO THIS STEP VERY VERY QUICKLY OR PHEONIX WILL NOT INSTALL AND YOU WILL HAVE TO TRY AGAIN.

Hi Cash
thanks for your guide. For me worked well!.
I had just a problem with the phoenix crack (dongle).
I have a Win 2000 pc.
The default directory of phoenix crack is c:\\windows\system32
I was unable to complete the installation until I discovered that on my win 2000 the correct path is c:\\WINNT\system32.
I'm a mac user and perhaps this is a "normal" things to change for win users but I really lost a lot of time trying to click "fast and furious" on retry and install buttons.

Hope this info will help another "dummy" pc user like me ! 😊
leo

Hi all,

I was able to DL everything but the 90034285_RM-92_IE_EMEA_PR_dp_v15.01_SW4.0632.0.38
file.

I signed up for service and everything at megauploads, but still no luck. Am I doing something wrong, or is there another location for the file? I would also be willing to accept the file if someone was willing to send it to me, I'm not sure how large it is though.

Any suggestions would be great. In the meantime I'll keep trying.

jayholler wrote:Hi all,

I was able to DL everything but the 90034285_RM-92_IE_EMEA_PR_dp_v15.01_SW4.0632.0.38
file.

I signed up for service and everything at megauploads, but still no luck. Am I doing something wrong, or is there another location for the file? I would also be willing to accept the file if someone was willing to send it to me, I'm not sure how large it is though.

Any suggestions would be great. In the meantime I'll keep trying.

It's over 51Mb to soo large for Messenger or email. Try this link...

http://rapidshare.com/files/7560872/90034285_RM-92_IE_EMEA_PR_dp_v15.01_SW4.0632.0.38.exe

dez_borders wrote:It's over 51Mb to soo large for Messenger or email. Try this link...

http://rapidshare.com/files/7560872/90034285_RM-92_IE_EMEA_PR_dp_v15.01_SW4.0632.0.38.exe

Thank you.

I did manage to finally get it working, and was able to successfully update my N80 purchased through an importer in NYC (by way of Hong Kong, apparently), to the N80ie. Sweet goodness, I love whoever made these apps available, and thanks to the author of this thread for the tutorial. It was impossible to screw this up with all the info you provided.

Until Nokia releases another update...

enter4o wrote:Thank a lot. I already know that I can't flash from 4.xxxx.x.xx to 3.xxxx.x.xx.
Last month i went to nokia service center because I forget to compare the two versions.

Now my N80 has 4.0623.0.42 and the newest N80i FW is 4.0632.0.38 thats mean that I should have a successful flash, shouldn't I?

Yes, because 4.0623 is lower than 4.0632, you would be upgrading to 4.0632.

Hi Guys I successfully upgraded my N80 to N80ie - Thanks to Cash's guidelines. Everything went ok, except for this message every time that I switch on my phone....

"Unable to complete installation from the Memory Card. To install remaining applications go to App.mgr"

I also have these strange copies under my AppManager.

I have been told somewhere to use a Card Reader and delete a folder named Uninstall.

I did that but this did not resolve the problem. Is there another way to do it or give me a directory using a Card Reader?? Thanks guys😡

EliasMH wrote:Hi Guys I successfully upgraded my N80 to N80ie - Thanks to Cash's guidelines. Everything went ok, except for this message every time that I switch on my phone....

"Unable to complete installation from the Memory Card. To install remaining applications go to App.mgr"

I also have these strange copies under my AppManager.

I have been told somewhere to use a Card Reader and delete a folder named Uninstall.

I did that but this did not resolve the problem. Is there another way to do it or give me a directory using a Card Reader?? Thanks guys😡

User Apps Manager to delete any corrupted or partly-installed apps when then memory card is in the phone.

P.S. Please don't post the same question in multiple threads 😉

After upgrade to IE there is 1 thing which remarkble is improved, WLAN recievement. First I could connect only on 1st floor or approx 10 metres. Now with IE I connect on 3rd floor or in open field over 30 metres. Walking through the city shows up much more (open) AP's.

Anyone has the same experience?

Freaker67 wrote:After upgrade to IE there is 1 thing which remarkble is improved, WLAN recievement. First I could connect only on 1st floor or approx 10 metres. Now with IE I connect on 3rd floor or in open field over 30 metres. Walking through the city shows up much more (open) AP's.

Anyone has the same experience?

same here, wlan seem to be better
voip 100% working..

btw.. firmware upgrade was very easy...
but don't forget to FULLY charge your battery

hi bros,

With the guides, i had successfully flash my n80 to n80i. Really like it alot.

But now there is a question from me.

Previously during the flash, i use the product code from hong kong as i cant find the product code of my country. Now is there any way to change it to some other code after i had managed to locate the code? Will there be any concern of just changing the code if there is some way to do it. Thanks and hope to hear from all.

so, after you have upgraded to N80IE, what does change? I mean, can I still use PC suite? The phoenix software is unknown to me. Is it some "crack" program?
Do i need to keep on using it, after the upgrade? Or is there no differentce at all between an upgraded N80 to N80IE and an original N80IE.
My concern is, that when there are updates to the N80IE software, what I have to do then. I would like to continue the nokia software (pc suite) although it's maybe not the best software there is. And also concerned I will some time in the future a message when updating, that my (updated to N80IE) nokia will be refused by nokia update.... I know, technically, the N80 and N80IE are the same, but I guess, nokia software can discover which nokia was originally N80 or N80IE...

thanks for the info here ... I wished nokia had an upgrade path.... but, this will do also I guess...
Just a bit scared to ruin my expensive phone....

Hi Suy,

The answer to your question about pheonix:- Its just a program to force update the nokia n80 to be an n80ie. Pheonix and all the other programs can be unistalled after you have updated your n80, you can then reinstall PC Suite. As to the n80 updating question regarding nokia and refusing to support the n80ie (n80 forced to be n80ie) I am unsure on this as Nokia havent released an update for me to test this using the PC suite update facility. Before I updated my n80 to n80ie i used the nokia live update facility and it just updated my n80 to the latest n80 version (last night) and at that time I couldnt select N80ie on their phone list.

I then followed this guide and updated to n80ie, after updating i uninstalled pheonix and all the other programs and drivers etc and re-installed pc suite, all is working fine.

This process can kill your phone so if you do this and it fails then no one but you can accept or take responsibility. But I can say it worked fine for me and my phone is now n80ie fully working and with a lot more options and use than the n80 had.

Its all upto you.

hope this is of help

Wez

@suy,

yes i can use nokie pc suite. i uninstalled all phoenix and diego etc. apps. then installed pc suite and synced with outlook with no probs.

btw, the font has been changed to the previous n80's firmware one. i mean, the version 3.xxx has this font type. after upgraded to v4.xx font was much more beautiful on n80, now we turned back to the old font type.. 😞

it seems like that, this n80ie has been planned way ago, so the they used the old font type. what do you think?

In my opinion it is not required to uninstall phoenix to install PC Suite. I'v done that and everything is working 100%. So now I have working Phoenix and PC Suite. Of course you cannot run both programs in parallel

Don't shoot the newbie and I apologise in advance if I upset the regulars. I know newbies can be annoying as I'm a mod on a different MB altogether.

I am from the UK, I have a N80 and after 6 months am already on my third handset because the software kept freezing etc.

I thought I was quite up to date with technology but reading this thread makes me realise I'm not!

I would like to update the firmware software as my phone is starting to slow down again and it's so annoying. I might as well update to the N80 IE software in the process.

I appreciate the step by step guide above but some of the terms don't mean anything to me.

Could someone PM me please, so I don't annoy everyone the best way to go about things. I am nervous about trying any updates until I am completely happy I know what I'm doing.

PS - I understand the Nokia official website updates are a no-no, is that right?

Thanks

Symbian Saddler wrote:Don't shoot the newbie and I apologise in advance if I upset the regulars. I know newbies can be annoying as I'm a mod on a different MB altogether.

I am from the UK, I have a N80 and after 6 months am already on my third handset because the software kept freezing etc.

I thought I was quite up to date with technology but reading this thread makes me realise I'm not!

I would like to update the firmware software as my phone is starting to slow down again and it's so annoying. I might as well update to the N80 IE software in the process.

I appreciate the step by step guide above but some of the terms don't mean anything to me.

Could someone PM me please, so I don't annoy everyone the best way to go about things. I am nervous about trying any updates until I am completely happy I know what I'm doing.

PS - I understand the Nokia official website updates are a no-no, is that right?

Thanks

First of all what firmware do you have?
(Press *#0000#)

Also what network are you on?

To start off with if you flash to N80IE and something goes wrong then you have no warranty as you will have voided it. Also you can not flash back to your current version so you will be stuck with the N80IE and from what I have read there are quiet a few bugs with it!

Best thing is to update to via Nokia's website!

Or flash to the Nokia generic version which is what I did and my device has not crashed once since!

Thanks for the reply.

My version is: V 3.0617.0.6, 03-05-2006

I am on Orange.

That's why I was worried to flash it because of the warranty. I'm not fussed about the N80 IE firmware if it has bugs.

A very stable N80 firmware update would suffice. I was warned that the Nokia updates are worst than most so I'm unsure about the official updates, especially as they would also void the warranty.

The official nokia updates are the ones to go for, they will not void your warranty, these will be on the nokia web site accessed through the software update facility in PC suite, The N80IE will void warranty as it has not officially been released yet, just try the official ones 1st and see how you get on. someone correct me if im wrong

by the way i am also on orange and had the old 3xxxx ver firmware, its was pants!!

jedi134 wrote:The official nokia updates are the ones to go for, they will not void your warranty, these will be on the nokia web site accessed through the software update facility in PC suite, The N80IE will void warranty as it has not officially been released yet, just try the official ones 1st and see how you get on. someone correct me if im wrong

by the way i am also on orange and had the old 3xxxx ver firmware, its was pants!!

Thanks again. Yes it is pants, and yet it's still far better than the previous software version I had.

Can a few more tell me if the official updates are ok before I go ahead. Any other advice would be welcome.

Thanks
Mark

I had no problems at all when i used the nokia update program, although it seemed to hang at around 75% for about 5mins which was scarey moment 😉 but it worked fine other than the fear it put in me. If you are at all unsure about your warranty or whatever maybe take the phone to the shop you bought it from and get them to do the update , obviously they will not update it to n80ie but at least u will have the safety that if they mess it up u are under warranty 😊

GL with it and hope it fixes your problems.

The nokia update worked for me, so thumbs up as far as i am concerned but technology is always touch and go , works for one person doesnt always work for the next

Wez

Symbian Saddler wrote:Thanks for the reply.

My version is: V 3.0617.0.6, 03-05-2006

I am on Orange.

That's why I was worried to flash it because of the warranty. I'm not fussed about the N80 IE firmware if it has bugs.

A very stable N80 firmware update would suffice. I was warned that the Nokia updates are worst than most so I'm unsure about the official updates, especially as they would also void the warranty.

That explains it then!

Your running on v3, My phone came with that and it constantly crashed that was when it had finished running at a snails pace!

Upgrading to V4 makes such a difference, My phone has not crashed once since!

As somebody pointed out, just upgrade using the software provided on the nokia website. This will not void your warranty so if anything goes wrong your covered!

One thing I will point out is that the orange firmware is known to have many problems, if I was you flash it with generic software as I done and you will never look back!